[Run and Gun Game...]

Thats another reason why Dana White wouldnt commit to a sonnen v/s Silva rematch after the fight. He saw his so called superfight between GSP and Silva almost go up in smoke.

Lmao, Dana was like oh we will see what happens, there is alot going on in the division right now.

his p4p fighter got exposed as not so elite afterall. Not saying Silva isnt very good, but p4p right now, or GOAT? Nope

[kidbazooka1]

No, many great fighters don't go through shit like that. It's one thing to get caught with a fluke punch. It's another to get caught in a quick submission. But no, not every great fighter consistently gets dominated b sub-par competition the way Anderson Silva does. It's a recurring theme in his career. He struggles with guys that he should, by all rights, be finishing in the 1st round.


Then I gotta dismiss Anderson. At least Henderson is NOTORIOUS for that ungodly right hand of his. Anderson nearly got KTFO by a one-dimensional wrestler who never, at any previous point in his career, displayed even a modicum of striking talent.


Try to Homer Simpson his way through 4 and a half rounds of pure domination and hope he can pull another submission out of his ass?


See, that's just shit. Chael threw a punch and he connected. How the fuck was that luck?


...After Sonnen had already hurt him. Gotcha. Brilliant.


I'm sure that was just a lucky elbow on Anderson's part. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes_anim.gif)


Vitor is mentally weak, I totally agree with you there. So is Anderson. Guess they belong in the octagon together after all.

Are you listeing to youself War you just said Sonnen almost KTFO of Silva i assume you mean in the first rd if so your lossing in bro how the f*ck was Silva almost KTFO he got caught with a right that sent him back had he been seriousley hurt those follow up shots that Sonnen hit him with after would have finsihed him c'mon War lets not start maeking sh*t up man.

And can you please tell me how in the world Silva is mentaly has hasn't lost in 6 yrs has 12 straight wins aginst top ranked fighters and jus had a come from behind win at the last minute. Had Silva been mentaly weak like you claim he never would have been able to come back from that fight.

And you say great fighter dson't have comebacls that they may only get a quick fluke sub or KO but i tell you what i much rather be Silva who lost 4rds and then come back and sub my opponent then be Fedor a get owned and embarassed by Werdum within a single f*cking minute.

Bottom line is Fedor got owned Silva almost got owned but almost don't cut it. Silva still reigns supreme.

Now it's case close my friends.

[kidbazooka1]

Lmfao canidate for the greatest OWNED post off all time.

Kid Bazooka has no idea how dumb he sounds.

He can continue to scratch at the door, but all of his barking still isnt going to make Silva the GOAT.

Case Closed

Did you even watch the fight bro?

Go look it up and tell me Anderson didn't put his hands down on purpose and let Sonnen hit him with those follow up shots it's as clear as f*cking day. Anderson does that kinda sh*t. Just like when he let Santiago hit him flush on the chin before stopping him. Anderson like most great fighters has that bit of cockiness to him and he clearly wanted to show that he wasn't that hurt.

Owned my ass. LOL

This post has been edited by kidbazooka1: Aug 9 2010, 11:24 AM

[Run and Gun Game...]

yes i saw the fight, and silva was rocked. He didnt let shit happen.

Differance in fedors loss and silvas almost loss is, fedor was the aggressor in his fight and winning, just got caught in a sub. Silva on the other hand was getting his ass kicked and found a submission. It is a habit of sonnens to leave himself open to that sub. Silva winning was more a product of a habitual mistake his opponent makes. What have most of sonnens losses come by? Triangle choke.

Why are dana white and ed sorros running from a rematch as quickly as possible?

As for silva not losing in 6 years while fighting top competition, thats a plain and simple lie. I have posted his best wins and it was far from top comp. You need to slide his balls back in your mouth so we quit hearing you spew ignorant fabricated shit

This post has been edited by Run and Gun Game Calls: Aug 9 2010, 11:40 AM

[kidbazooka1]

yes i saw the fight, and silva was rocked. He didnt let shit happen.

Differance in fedors loss and silvas almost loss is, fedor was the aggressor in his fight and winning, just got caught in a sub. Silva on the other hand was getting his ass kicked and found a submission. It is a habit of sonnens to leave himself open to that sub. Silva winning was more a product of a habitual mistake his opponent makes. What have most of sonnens losses come by? Triangle choke.

Why are dana white and ed sorros running from a rematch as quickly as possible?

As for silva not losing in 6 years while fighting top competition, thats a plain and simple lie. I have posted his best wins and it was far from top comp. You need to slide his balls back in your mouth so we quit hearing you spew ignorant fabricated shit

Wow you are something else. hahahha

Dude i really don't know what to tell you cause people like you will believe what they want to believe.

So answer me this you would rather be Fedor and get subbed in a minute then be Silva and score one of the biggest MMA comebacks and still win? Be f*cking honest now.

Anderson has faught and beaten Franklin, Hendo, Marquadt, Griffin, Maia, Leites, Sonnen all ranked fighters at the time. So don't give me that BS .

Tell me who the f*ck has Fedor been fighting he has been widely criticised for not fighting top HW competition for a while now.

Also check out Elit figher Magazine i believe it was a jan or feb issue they compiled a list of the 50 greatets MMA fighters of all time and guess who was number 1 Anderson Silva.

Like i've said im not the only one that thinks this but since you guys obviously don't agree well then myself and those magazines and therde writers must be wrong and you guys are right. hahahah

[Run and Gun Game...]

I personally believe the people who follow the fights in boxing or mma, on boards like this are as well, if not more educated about the fighting sports than many of those who hold a job at a magazine writing about fighting.

You believe because a writer calls someone the GOAT it makes it so? They are more qualified than the majority of educated fight fans to make that decision? Their Decision to major in journalism classes somehow made them be able to better break down a fighter, than many here that have huge fight collections and have followed and researched fighters for years?



Look at this thread, how many are agreeing with you? I would put the opinions of almost every mma fan i talk to, and the members of this board over a magazine writer. Writing for a mag does not make you a MMA god or the final authority.


And to be honest I would rather be Fedor. Silvas comeback consisted of sonnen slipping up and giving up a submission. Silva got his ass handed to him. Something that has not ever happened to Fedor. If Silva had came back and knocked out sonnen i would have been much more impressed. Again the comeback was more of sonnens flaws than silvas great fighting ability.

but im not here just to defend fedor, BJ penn, Randy Couture are also ahead of silva based on competition and accomplishments. Did Couture move to heavyweight and win the title twice? yes he did Many times outweighed by at least 40 pds. Did Couture Dominate a kid who was considered the best 205er in the world in tito ortiz? yes he did

BJ penn did lose to Pulver early in his career, yet you claimed it was his prime, lol. Not even close. That was before BJ was even taking the sport seriously and training. But Ill tell ya what he did do. He moved up and beat a much bigger and stronger champion in Matt Huges.

Who has Silva beat that is on par with Matt Huges? Who has he beat on par with a prime Tito Ortiz? Who has he beat on par with Chuck Liddel for that matter? Who has he beat on par with Vitor Belfort?

Dont give me forrest griffen either or rich franklin, both are b level fighters. Their biggest wins came over fighters close to retirement

Im not talking ranked fighters either. All top level fighters fight ranked fighters. Who has he beat that is considered an A level great fighter?

Who has Silva beat that is considered a legend of the sport?....................

Nobody.

Silva is a fabrication of the UFC Hype machine.

You Still didnt answer my question, you completely ducked it in fact. So I ask again

Why are Dana White and Ed Sorros running as fast as they can from giving sonnen a much deserved rematch? Their Hyped house of cards almost came crumbling down.

Please give an honest answer.

Any true champion worth his salt would want to fight the rematch and prove the beat down he was taking was just a fabrication.

Could Roy Jones be considered the p4p king once he got the first fight decision v/s tarver? nope Even though he won the fight.

Even for those that thought Silva was the p4p #1 fighter right now before this fight. His last 2 preformances have destroyed that throne for him. Any credible list will have him slipping a few spots. Its not just one poor preformance now, its 2 in a row.

Goat, lmao..... He hasnt beaten anyone yet.

now please answer the above question, I am dying to hear you spin this

This post has been edited by Run and Gun Game Calls: Aug 9 2010, 03:34 PM

[AussieLad]

Vitors inconsistencies aside, i think he represents a dangerous opponent for Silva. His hands are alot faster than both Sonnen and Silvas, and his power is unquestionable. Whether Anderson was getting caught with sonnens punches because he was looking for the takedown... maybe, but i find it hard to believe he was expecting sonnen to shoot without setting up the take down first with a strike. If he can get caught like that from a relative light hitter in Sonnen, he can get caught by a blazing fast power puncher like Vitor.

[Box in Hand]

Vitor Belfort is weak minded and that can be seen as far back as the Coture fight and as early as his PED usage. Sonnen did so well because he was not scared of Silva and truly believed he was gonna win unlike most Silva's other opponents. Most believed in the hype before they got in the ring with him. It's like Tarver beating Jones ass. Tarver didn't believe the hype and was ultra confident. Silva is P4P in my book and does things in the ring that only fighters appreciate. I may be the monority in this but hey what's life without opinion?

[kidbazooka1]

I personally believe the people who follow the fights in boxing or mma, on boards like this are as well, if not more educated about the fighting sports than many of those who hold a job at a magazine writing about fighting.

You believe because a writer calls someone the GOAT it makes it so? They are more qualified than the majority of educated fight fans to make that decision? Their Decision to major in journalism classes somehow made them be able to better break down a fighter, than many here that have huge fight collections and have followed and researched fighters for years?



Look at this thread, how many are agreeing with you? I would put the opinions of almost every mma fan i talk to, and the members of this board over a magazine writer. Writing for a mag does not make you a MMA god or the final authority.


And to be honest I would rather be Fedor. Silvas comeback consisted of sonnen slipping up and giving up a submission. Silva got his ass handed to him. Something that has not ever happened to Fedor. If Silva had came back and knocked out sonnen i would have been much more impressed. Again the comeback was more of sonnens flaws than silvas great fighting ability.

but im not here just to defend fedor, BJ penn, Randy Couture are also ahead of silva based on competition and accomplishments. Did Couture move to heavyweight and win the title twice? yes he did Many times outweighed by at least 40 pds. Did Couture Dominate a kid who was considered the best 205er in the world in tito ortiz? yes he did

BJ penn did lose to Pulver early in his career, yet you claimed it was his prime, lol. Not even close. That was before BJ was even taking the sport seriously and training. But Ill tell ya what he did do. He moved up and beat a much bigger and stronger champion in Matt Huges.

Who has Silva beat that is on par with Matt Huges? Who has he beat on par with a prime Tito Ortiz? Who has he beat on par with Chuck Liddel for that matter? Who has he beat on par with Vitor Belfort?

Dont give me forrest griffen either or rich franklin, both are b level fighters. Their biggest wins came over fighters close to retirement

Im not talking ranked fighters either. All top level fighters fight ranked fighters. Who has he beat that is considered an A level great fighter?

Who has Silva beat that is considered a legend of the sport?....................

Nobody.

Silva is a fabrication of the UFC Hype machine.

You Still didnt answer my question, you completely ducked it in fact. So I ask again

Why are Dana White and Ed Sorros running as fast as they can from giving sonnen a much deserved rematch? Their Hyped house of cards almost came crumbling down.

Please give an honest answer.

Any true champion worth his salt would want to fight the rematch and prove the beat down he was taking was just a fabrication.

Could Roy Jones be considered the p4p king once he got the first fight decision v/s tarver? nope Even though he won the fight.

Even for those that thought Silva was the p4p #1 fighter right now before this fight. His last 2 preformances have destroyed that throne for him. Any credible list will have him slipping a few spots. Its not just one poor preformance now, its 2 in a row.

Goat, lmao..... He hasnt beaten anyone yet.

now please answer the above question, I am dying to hear you spin this

Dude just listen to some of the stupid ass comments you have made.....

Silva isn't p4p right now-anyone including the biggest Silva hater will tell you the guy is p4p. Witht that comment alone i shouldn't even have replied to you anymore but i couldn't resist.

You believe the fans more than the writers who write for the sport-C'mon bro you can't pull that sh*t on me i've been visiting Sherdog one of the leading MMA sites aswell as others MMA sites before they even had forums and i can tell you that most MMA fans became fans around 05-06 because of TUF shows. Most of these kids don't know sh*t about the sport nor the fight game. If you were to say that about boxing then maybe i would agree but in the case of MMA most fans are young kids who barley got into the sports there for i gotta go hands down with the people who write the mags and and have inside scoop of the sport.


The you go and say that had Anderson KO'ed Sonnen it would have been more impressive-hahahahah give me a f*cking break Anderson could beat Shogun, Lesnar, and Velasquez on the same night and you would still hate on him. Silva wanted to sub Sonnen because of those comments that Sonnen made about his black belt and the Noguera brothers. Thats why Anderson walked in with his GI to the fight something he hasn't done in years. Subbing Sonnen was much more impressive an satisfying given the comments hat to me was poetic justice Anderson whooped Sonnen the one way that Sonnen was makeing fun of him. You couldn't have a more perfect ending to the fight.

You rather be Fedor and lose than be Silva and comeback to win-I can't take anyting you say seriousley after the comment sorry bro you really did with that one.


Man these comments just reek of a biased person.

About the Dana/Soares comments who gives a f*Ck that they don't want the immediate rematch though i can tell you the that fight will happen eventually thats for sure.

This debate is getting pointless like Box in hand said i've got my opinion and my opinion aswell as others is that Anderson Silva is the GOAT you don't agree with that and thats fine i don't agree with your opinion either and after reading those comments i can't take you seriousley either.

This post has been edited by kidbazooka1: Aug 9 2010, 07:54 PM

[Warlord]

I personally believe the people who follow the fights in boxing or mma, on boards like this are as well, if not more educated about the fighting sports than many of those who hold a job at a magazine writing about fighting.

You believe because a writer calls someone the GOAT it makes it so? They are more qualified than the majority of educated fight fans to make that decision? Their Decision to major in journalism classes somehow made them be able to better break down a fighter, than many here that have huge fight collections and have followed and researched fighters for years?



Look at this thread, how many are agreeing with you? I would put the opinions of almost every mma fan i talk to, and the members of this board over a magazine writer. Writing for a mag does not make you a MMA god or the final authority.


And to be honest I would rather be Fedor. Silvas comeback consisted of sonnen slipping up and giving up a submission. Silva got his ass handed to him. Something that has not ever happened to Fedor. If Silva had came back and knocked out sonnen i would have been much more impressed. Again the comeback was more of sonnens flaws than silvas great fighting ability.

but im not here just to defend fedor, BJ penn, Randy Couture are also ahead of silva based on competition and accomplishments. Did Couture move to heavyweight and win the title twice? yes he did Many times outweighed by at least 40 pds. Did Couture Dominate a kid who was considered the best 205er in the world in tito ortiz? yes he did

BJ penn did lose to Pulver early in his career, yet you claimed it was his prime, lol. Not even close. That was before BJ was even taking the sport seriously and training. But Ill tell ya what he did do. He moved up and beat a much bigger and stronger champion in Matt Huges.

Who has Silva beat that is on par with Matt Huges? Who has he beat on par with a prime Tito Ortiz? Who has he beat on par with Chuck Liddel for that matter? Who has he beat on par with Vitor Belfort?

Dont give me forrest griffen either or rich franklin, both are b level fighters. Their biggest wins came over fighters close to retirement

Im not talking ranked fighters either. All top level fighters fight ranked fighters. Who has he beat that is considered an A level great fighter?

Who has Silva beat that is considered a legend of the sport?....................

Nobody.

Silva is a fabrication of the UFC Hype machine.

You Still didnt answer my question, you completely ducked it in fact. So I ask again

Why are Dana White and Ed Sorros running as fast as they can from giving sonnen a much deserved rematch? Their Hyped house of cards almost came crumbling down.

Please give an honest answer.

Any true champion worth his salt would want to fight the rematch and prove the beat down he was taking was just a fabrication.

Could Roy Jones be considered the p4p king once he got the first fight decision v/s tarver? nope Even though he won the fight.

Even for those that thought Silva was the p4p #1 fighter right now before this fight. His last 2 preformances have destroyed that throne for him. Any credible list will have him slipping a few spots. Its not just one poor preformance now, its 2 in a row.

Goat, lmao..... He hasnt beaten anyone yet.

now please answer the above question, I am dying to hear you spin this

Amen. Pretty much sums up what I was going to post.

Bazooka, no one is saying Anderson Silva isn't a great fighter. He is. He just isn't the greatest. Not by a damn sight. He hasn't really fought anyone credible enough to be considered the GOAT. You're getting caught up in the drama of the moment, pure and simple.

My P4P list right now?

Georges St. Pierre
Anderson Silva
Fedor Emelianenko
Jose Aldo
Mauricio "Shogun" Rua