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Dec 10 2007, 11:50 PM
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Super Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 12-December 06 From: Pittsburgh, PA Member No.: 5,671 |
I think Cotto wins a split decision in a controversial win that demands a rematch. I'll have to see the first fight to predict the second : )
I think Cotto will be able to land his jab at a significant rate. Not as good as Judah or Mosley, but enough to be a factor in the fight. Floyd will fight this fight similar to the DLH fight and that will be the difference. I think Cotto will come forward most of the fight, but fight much smarter than DLH. Cotto will not head hunt like DLH. It is an easy thing to do against Floyd's great defense. The difference is that Cotto doesn't care...like a miny Marciano, he will punch you in the shoulders, elbows, whatever. Floyd will take more punishment in this fight than ever before in his career. Still, Floyd is one of the best pure boxers of all time and he will do some great things. But I see Cotto tightening up his game every fight, and he will probably get another fight in before the PBF fight and improve even more. I can't wait for this fight, I just hope I can afford/get tickets. I'd love for Floyd to recognize the significance of this fight and learn how to properly trash talk like someone such as Bernard Hopkins. |
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Dec 11 2007, 02:07 AM
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Choppin Headz Boi! Group: Team BU Posts: 22,696 Joined: 16-October 02 Member No.: 19 |
If Mayweather fights Cotto, he fights Cotto like he foguht Baldomir. Mayweather wont stand inside with Cotto and will not go into a shell on the ropes. Hatton was pretty helpless because he isn't as clean of a puncher as Cotto and he isnt as big or hits as hard as Cotto. Cotto at WW is not tall but the man is built like a tank. Really strong upper body.
He gives Floyd hell. Anyone else think Cotto would take Ricky out in 8 or under if they fought? |
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Dec 11 2007, 05:11 AM
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Choppin Headz Boi! Group: Team BU Posts: 22,696 Joined: 16-October 02 Member No.: 19 |
Cotto is about as fast as Castillo...and Castillo was able to apply steady pressure on Floyd...unlike Hatton with all his footspeed walked into everything until finally getting stopped. He fought same way Jesus Chavez fought Floyd.
I TRULY respect Hatton for the heart and courage he showed against Mayweather, but the man was out of his league. Cotto to me is without a doubt a better fighter then Hatton. Not as quick. But bigger, stronger, better jab, more polished. I believe he will give Floyd a hell of a time and Floyd wont bust him up like he did Ricky. He would win just like he won the Castillo fight. Also, Cotto took shots from Judah withouit being seriously hurt, and you cant find a better combination of speed and power then Judah. I'm just saying that for Floyd to win, he will have to fight the most cautious fight possible because if Cotto gets him on the ropes, expect Cotto to punish the body. |
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Dec 11 2007, 05:45 AM
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Choppin Headz Boi! Group: Team BU Posts: 22,696 Joined: 16-October 02 Member No.: 19 |
QUOTE(Fitz @ Dec 11 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]369956[/snapback] I don't think it matters. Like Hatton said after the fight "I don't think he is the hardest puncher I have faced but he is very accurate and makes the right room for his punches" That's what separates Mayweather and Judah. Sure Judah hits harder and is quicker (when throwing a single shot), but Judah doesn't follow up when he has a guy hurt. Mayweather is dead accurate and will not stand there like an idiot when he has a guy hurt infront of him. So yeah, Cotto took shots from Judah, but that doesn't mean Mayweather can't stop him. It's not difficult to get stopped when someone keeps tagging you at the same spot. It matters somewhat because Judah has the power to seriously damage when he lands. And if you dont think Jduah doesn't follow up, you must not have seen his earlier fights. He didn't follow up against Cotto because Cotto wasn't seriously hurt. He tired to follow up in round 1 after the monster uppercut. In round 2 when he made Cotto wobble, Cotto recovered in a 2nd and was ducking punches. I honestly dont think Floyd would stop Cotto. it's possible, but I definitely doubt it. Floyd would really fight the most cautious fight possible and Cotto...just like he did Baldomir. |
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Dec 11 2007, 05:59 AM
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Choppin Headz Boi! Group: Team BU Posts: 22,696 Joined: 16-October 02 Member No.: 19 |
He went for the kill against Spinks and pretty much everyone he fought at 140. Fitz, I advice you to watch the Cotto fight again man and you will CLEARLY see that Cotto was never in any serious trouble from the shots Zab landed.
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Dec 11 2007, 06:05 AM
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Choppin Headz Boi! Group: Team BU Posts: 22,696 Joined: 16-October 02 Member No.: 19 |
You can see Cotto-Judah clips in the Cotto highlight video I made
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MigmBs2GCuE |
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Dec 11 2007, 07:31 AM
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First Ballot Group: Team BU Posts: 18,135 Joined: 8-December 04 From: New York Member No.: 1,262 |
QUOTE(singletrack @ Dec 10 2007, 11:31 PM) [snapback]369922[/snapback] Easier than Hatton is a JOKE of a statement man, and I typically respect your opinion. Hatton RAN in, taking shots with no jab and wild hooks (maybe landed 2 or 3?); comparing him to Cotto is absurd. Of course he gets in quickly - he barely defends himself! PBF will beat Margarito easily IMO - sticking and moving for 12 rounds. Margarito cannot adapt; Floyd can. Williams would be tough for Mayweather, but it will never happen. I heard they sucked the marrow out of his bones so he can make weight <wink wink> I really think Cotto will be one of the greatest Puerto Rican fighters of all time. I've never really said that, but always hoped for it. I think with what I've seen from him to date, and especially lately, he has the opportunity to make it a reality. Honestly though, he could lose to Floyd and STILL be one of the greatest of all time. Listen man...I will be right there with you...I will have the Don King Puerto Rican flag in hand and all. I just think that this fight is a bad style matchup for Cotto. He is going to have to make his way inside, and he does not have the best foot speed, and if when he is forced to fight Floyd at a measured pace on the outside, he will struggle. In the middle rounds against Malignaggi he had some problems with his boxing, and Paulie is not 1/100th what Floyd is. I am not comparing Cotto to Hatton at all, different styles...different fighters, I just happen to think that Floyd handles Cotto's style without a ton of trouble, especially since Cotto cannot close the distance as quickly. Give me Cotto over Hatton as he times the Hitman coming in, but I dunno about the Floyd fight being all that close - I think it is a bad fight for him. If he lands, than it will be interesting to see Floyd deal...hell, it will be interesting to see Floyd deal with lefthook to the shoulder Gianluca Branco style; I just don't think he stays there long enough, or even at all. |
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Dec 11 2007, 08:13 AM
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Junior Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,212 Joined: 9-December 04 From: Washington DC Member No.: 1,305 |
Like Hatton, what's going to make Floyd's win over Cotto so much sweeter is that he'll probably KO him, again surprising folks. "Mosely couldn't do it," they'll say, and most thought that if he'd KO Ricky it was going to be on cuts. But he shut all that up.
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Dec 11 2007, 08:15 AM
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First Ballot Group: Team BU Posts: 18,135 Joined: 8-December 04 From: New York Member No.: 1,262 |
QUOTE(WolfishPromistah @ Dec 11 2007, 08:13 AM) [snapback]369977[/snapback] Like Hatton, what's going to make Floyd's win over Cotto so much sweeter is that he'll probably KO him, again surprising folks. "Mosely couldn't do it," they'll say, and most thought that if he'd KO Ricky it was going to be on cuts. But he shut all that up. He could stop Cotto. I think he will end up respecting him far more in there than he did Hatton, which can lead to a distance fight...but if he gets into potshot mode, and lands one Cotto does not see, he can hurt him and than look to finish. |
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Dec 11 2007, 08:36 AM
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Super Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 3,180 Joined: 9-December 04 From: Atlanta Member No.: 1,309 |
I think all of this talk about Cotto/Mayweather is moot because Floyd is on vacation. In the meantime, Cotto will probably fight someone that has a strong chance to beat him. That someone could be Paul Williams or Antonio Margarito. If Cotto cant secure a DLH payday, there are only those 2 guys. I'd be pissed if he ends up fight Luis Collazo, Joel Julio or Andre Berto. He needs to continue to ride this streak of fighting to dogs. Williams should be his next fight, but I'll accept Margarito...
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