[gravytrain]

in my opinion not a bad number... specially when you think its a lot of people that go to bww or different pubs and sports bars to watch the fights these days... and you take into account fight parties etc... if and or when pac and mayweather sign to fight they will i am pretty sure double this amount of buyers.... its the only fight really worth making for either fighter... unless the other fighters name is martinez after saturday night... lol... they are on a collision course..

You know, I think it'll happen. Mayweather needs this fight, Pac says he doesn't but he needs this fight, and this fight is guaranteed to make both parties lots of money.

I can't even imagine the hype leading up to this fight.

I think it's disappointing but you people get charged way too much for your PPV's so it's understandable. I'll add, I thought 1.4 was disappointing also though.

What kind of PPV buys do they get in the UK?

[STEVENSKI]

This is more like I expected. Pacquiao just isn't the PPV star that Mayweather is but still a great number!

I just don't see it.

Pac vs Margarito was two guys who can't speak the queens english proper & neither are American yet they do 1.15.

PBF vs Mosley was two American fighters fighting on a American network in America & they did what 1.2?

Sorry but I will take two foreigners being within 100K buys as the bigger draw overall.

Do we have a global figure for this or is it based of only US PPV buys & therefore biased in the extreme towards American fighters.

Have vs Fraudley did 800K buys in the UK alone out of a population of 60M people. American has a long way to go to catch up with supporting boxing. Maxy is right about the numbers.

[gravytrain]

I just don't see it.

Pac vs Margarito was two guys who can't speak the queens english proper & neither are American yet they do 1.15.

PBF vs Mosley was two American fighters fighting on a American network in America & they did what 1.2?

Sorry but I will take two foreigners being within 100K buys as the bigger draw overall.

Do we have a global figure for this or is it based of only US PPV buys & therefore biased in the extreme towards American fighters.

Have vs Fraudley did 800K buys in the UK alone out of a population of 60M people. American has a long way to go to catch up with supporting boxing. Maxy is right about the numbers.

Well obviously being American will have its advantages when reaching the American market but anyone can make it in America if they get the right marketing. The only thing people care about is entertainment, they don't care whether they're from America or not. Unless you win a gold medal for America being American means jack shit. There are lots of American fighters the general public knows nothing about.

[Snoop]

I just don't see it.

Pac vs Margarito was two guys who can't speak the queens english proper & neither are American yet they do 1.15.

PBF vs Mosley was two American fighters fighting on a American network in America & they did what 1.2?

Sorry but I will take two foreigners being within 100K buys as the bigger draw overall.

Do we have a global figure for this or is it based of only US PPV buys & therefore biased in the extreme towards American fighters.

Have vs Fraudley did 800K buys in the UK alone out of a population of 60M people. American has a long way to go to catch up with supporting boxing. Maxy is right about the numbers.

An American nationality only matters when the other fighter isn't American. Otherwise, where would you be able to put all that patriotism if both guys are from the same place?

[thehype]

It's a DISAPPOINTING number because....

1) So many people, particularly "diehard" fans, bought into the hype that Pacquiao was having "the worst camp ever" and actually believed that Margarito had a shot.

2) Bob Arum is now 100% confident that he can put Pacquiao in with ANYONE and still do great numbers, so why even bother putting him in against a fighter who has a promoter that he'll have to share the wealth with?

3) The chances of Mayweather vs. Pacquiao ever happening just got a little bit slimmer.

Get ready for Pacquiao vs. Mosley on May 7, 2011.

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That is all. Carry on.

[The Ollie Reed F...]

Well obviously being American will have its advantages when reaching the American market but anyone can make it in America if they get the right marketing. The only thing people care about is entertainment, they don't care whether they're from America or not. Unless you win a gold medal for America being American means jack shit. There are lots of American fighters the general public knows nothing about.

I think being an American matters for an American audience. Same as any country, you will get higher viewing figures when either or both fighters are from that country.

Plus they had a big promo but neither guy really speaks English. Some might regard that as inconsequential but I don't. Audiences these days want everything fed to them on to a plate and when you have to watch a 24/7 and half of it has subtitles and the other half is barely legible has got to count.

I think the numbers are actually pretty solid when all things are considered.

[gravytrain]

I think being an American matters for an American audience. Same as any country, you will get higher viewing figures when either or both fighters are from that country.

Plus they had a big promo but neither guy really speaks English. Some might regard that as inconsequential but I don't. Audiences these days want everything fed to them on to a plate and when you have to watch a 24/7 and half of it has subtitles and the other half is barely legible has got to count.

I think the numbers are actually pretty solid when all things are considered.

There are a lot of American fighters that Americans know nothing about, the fighters people do know about are known because of their marketing and promoter. Unless they win a gold medal and ride the gravytrain of medaling they're not guaranteed shit. Andre Ward is the last American to get a gold medal in boxing and if I tried to ask someone about Andre Ward they'd say "who?", if I asked them about what boxers they know about they'd probably say "Mayweather and Pacquiao", the two most heavily marketed fighters.

I honestly can't say I've ever heard of someone talking about buying a PPV because the fighters are American, they buy them because they think it'll be a good fight. I couldn't even keep track of how many people that know I watch boxing ask me about Pac/Margarito, they were people that don't even really watch fights either. What they did know was Pac and Margarito were on 24/7 and 24/7 made it seem like it's going to be the fight of the century, that the fight was getting attention on ESPN, and that they seen Pac on talk shows. They were far more concerned about that than nationality.

[The Ollie Reed F...]

There are a lot of American fighters that Americans know nothing about, the fighters people do know about are known because of their marketing and promoter. Unless they win a gold medal and ride the gravytrain of medaling they're not guaranteed shit. Andre Ward is the last American to get a gold medal in boxing and if I tried to ask someone about Andre Ward they'd say "who?", if I asked them about what boxers they know about they'd probably say "Mayweather and Pacquiao", the two most heavily marketed fighters.

I honestly can't say I've ever heard of someone talking about buying a PPV because the fighters are American, they buy them because they think it'll be a good fight. I couldn't even keep track of how many people that know I watch boxing ask me about Pac/Margarito, they were people that don't even really watch fights either. What they did know was Pac and Margarito were on 24/7 and 24/7 made it seem like it's going to be the fight of the century, that the fight was getting attention on ESPN, and that they seen Pac on talk shows. They were far more concerned about that than nationality.

So if Pac fought with the same boring ass style of Floyd he would be generating 1.15 million buys? Oh get outta here. Pac earns his ratings becaue he brings excitement to the table. Forget whether the guys are weight drained or whatever he's prepared to get down and dirty and people will tune in for that shit.

Yeah I understand that a lot of American fighters aren't known but really what does that prove? If you look at the top PPV stars over the past 15 years they are all American (Manny apart.). If either Klit despite their boring style were American they'd be huge in the states. Fact. The idea that someone's nationality doesn't have at least some bearing on how they sell in their own country is plain stupid.

[Hops]

So, we all acknowledged a lot of factors affecting PPV buys. Also, remember that Floyd suddenly got injured when news of slow ticket sales for his initial schedule against Marquez. Remember, they moved the fight to a later date. Economy, other sports schedules, etc. etc. etc.

[gravytrain]

So if Pac fought with the same boring ass style of Floyd he would be generating 1.15 million buys? Oh get outta here. Pac earns his ratings becaue he brings excitement to the table. Forget whether the guys are weight drained or whatever he's prepared to get down and dirty and people will tune in for that shit.

Yeah I understand that a lot of American fighters aren't known but really what does that prove? If you look at the top PPV stars over the past 15 years they are all American (Manny apart.). If either Klit despite their boring style were American they'd be huge in the states. Fact. The idea that someone's nationality doesn't have at least some bearing on how they sell in their own country is plain stupid.

No, Mayweather helped generate 2.5 million buys and got 1.4-1.5 with Mosley by being an asshole on camera though. He might not be entertaining to the casual fan in the ring but he entertains them outside of it.

Most of the top fighters over the years have been American, in divisions that receive attention anyway. And no, the Klits wouldn't be huge in the states no matter how you look at it. They didn't get dropped by networks because they're from another country, they got dropped because there's no entertainment with them inside or outside the ring. They're nice guys, they can't sell a fight inside or outside of the ring though. Unless they were WASPs.

OK, why isn't Andre Ward a PPV star? Why has this cat been doing jack shit on Showtime up until the Super Six? He's an American Olympic gold medalist, that should guarantee him something right? No. As an American I can tell you that people here want to be entertained, they don't care if you're American or not. What about all the other Americans that no one knows? The fighters people do know about have mainstream exposure and do something to sell their fights.