[neophyte7]

TYSON IS NO WHERE NEAR HITTING AS HARD A GEORGE FOREMAN...The 45 year old Foreman who had his record as the oldest champion in the sport's history broken by Hopkins... could be the hardest puncher all time... the one shot he delivered in LAYING DOWN MOORER kind of says alot... ONE SHOT POWER-- out of there--- tommy hearns had one shot destructive power

GEORGE FOREMAN THE HARDEST PUNCHER ALL TIME... who can get over how he KABOOMED JOE FRAZIER TO THE CANVAS.. LMAO

[lloyd mayflower]

Cant believe I didnt get the answer sooner, its Tyson Fury, the hardest puncher, AND the best chin in the business

[mgrover]

I like most of what you said but on martinez, lucky punch? He hit him with it all night the 1st fight too! 50 times min bro! Go watch it! but I say Shavers too but Jack Johnson too...he was a bad man! And Foreman too. It's a hard call really, maybe even harder than P4P all time!!!! (IMG:http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/caneman_123/ouch.jpg)

it just seemed a bit unexpected with the punch, and I guess I don't want to make it bigger than it already is because of that KO people rate him among the best of the P4P which he isn't yet. I will always admit though martinez does punch hard, just not in the same league as other big punchers yet

[gravytrain]

TYSON IS NO WHERE NEAR HITTING AS HARD A GEORGE FOREMAN...The 45 year old Foreman who had his record as the oldest champion in the sport's history broken by Hopkins... could be the hardest puncher all time... the one shot he delivered in LAYING DOWN MOORER kind of says alot... ONE SHOT POWER-- out of there--- tommy hearns had one shot destructive power

GEORGE FOREMAN THE HARDEST PUNCHER ALL TIME... who can get over how he KABOOMED JOE FRAZIER TO THE CANVAS.. LMAO

Tyson wanted no part of the old Foreman that they wanted to put him in the ring with. i think the young Foreman would have whooped his ass with ease with both in their prime. i think overall Foreman and Shavers are definitely at the top of the sport as far as punching is concerned. maybe not P4P but hardest hitting period.

[HaydelHammer]

TYSON IS NO WHERE NEAR HITTING AS HARD A GEORGE FOREMAN...The 45 year old Foreman who had his record as the oldest champion in the sport's history broken by Hopkins... could be the hardest puncher all time... the one shot he delivered in LAYING DOWN MOORER kind of says alot... ONE SHOT POWER-- out of there--- tommy hearns had one shot destructive power

GEORGE FOREMAN THE HARDEST PUNCHER ALL TIME... who can get over how he KABOOMED JOE FRAZIER TO THE CANVAS.. LMAO

That frazier mugging was brutal

[Big Slim Sweet]

For nothing but pure one punch KO power I'll put DAVID TUA up against anybody.

[Box in Hand]

TYSON IS NO WHERE NEAR HITTING AS HARD A GEORGE FOREMAN...The 45 year old Foreman who had his record as the oldest champion in the sport's history broken by Hopkins... could be the hardest puncher all time... the one shot he delivered in LAYING DOWN MOORER kind of says alot... ONE SHOT POWER-- out of there--- tommy hearns had one shot destructive power

GEORGE FOREMAN THE HARDEST PUNCHER ALL TIME... who can get over how he KABOOMED JOE FRAZIER TO THE CANVAS.. LMAO

I thought I was the only one. George is in my mind the hardest puncher I have ever seen. Hell he made Joe Fraizer bounce off the ring like a basketball.

[ChadSaysTakeTheT...]

TYSON IS NO WHERE NEAR HITTING AS HARD A GEORGE FOREMAN...The 45 year old Foreman who had his record as the oldest champion in the sport's history broken by Hopkins... could be the hardest puncher all time... the one shot he delivered in LAYING DOWN MOORER kind of says alot... ONE SHOT POWER-- out of there--- tommy hearns had one shot destructive power

GEORGE FOREMAN THE HARDEST PUNCHER ALL TIME... who can get over how he KABOOMED JOE FRAZIER TO THE CANVAS.. LMAO

Are you high? FOREMAN was wayy past his prime when he fought MOORER, and if you even watched that fight you would see how slow they were righting.

[STEVENSKI]

I think there is way too much emphasis on modern fighters here.

A guy like Stanley Ketchel who won 51 fights with 48 KO's in the era when they let a man fight until he was hamburger is incredible. Easily Grand Rapids greatest fighter who was shot down in his absolute prime.

How many other middleweights would have ignored the colour bar & fought Jack Johnson at heavyweight? He also fought the great Sam Langford in a close 6 round contest.

Billy Papke, known as the “Illinois Thunderbolt”, scored a stunning upset of Ketchel by surprising him through use of an ill famed tactic. The Sept. 8, 1908 San Francisco Chronicle reported, “When James J. Jeffries, the referee, called time and Ketchel walked to the center extending his hand for the shake, Papke ignored his hand and sailed into the Michigan killer with the fiery tempetuosity which entitled him to be called thunderbolt.” Papke's cheap shot would inspire the referee’s instructions: “Shake hands and come out fighting.”

The fight was practically settled with the first punch, a strong left that caught Ketchel unprepared and drove him to the ropes. He was lifted off his feet four times in the first round and knocked down by a right and a left by Papke. He never fully recovered. Ketchel’s right eye was closed at the beginning of the second round. Ketchel fought on with gritty determination but took a terrible beating over the remainder of the fight and was finally stopped in the 12th round.

Ketchel was infuriated by the manner in which he had lost. He was also unhappy that Papke was a 10-7 betting favorite in their championship rematch just two and a half months later. W. O. McGeehan wrote that, “Hatred inspires every blow in fight. Papke’s stubborn courage is of no avail before the power of the Assassin.” In the very first round a right hand to the heart staggered Papke and he was soon in trouble against the ropes. Ketchel never let up. He told his rival, “It took you 12 rounds to stop a blind man. I’m gonna let your eyes stay open until the 11th so you can see me knock you out.”

A crunching left sent Papke crashing to the mat in the fateful 11th. It was a punch that “shook his entire frame and sent his head crashing against the wooden platform”, wrote McGeehan. “Pain racked and with his heart beaten out of him by body punches in the first few rounds…it was all over in that punch.” Papke barely beat the count of “ten” but was sent back for the full count by a barrage of punches by Ketchel who avenged the only real defeat of his career at middleweight. It was the only time Papke was ever knocked out.

I think the older fighters tend to get forgotten but Ketchel was described as terrifying by his peers with his agressive style & raw power.

One to consider with a 95% KO rate for sure.

This post has been edited by STEVENSKI: Jun 12 2011, 11:25 PM

[Box in Hand]

I think there is way too much emphasis on modern fighters here.

A guy like Stanley Ketchel who won 51 fights with 48 KO's in the era when they let a man fight until he was hamburger is incredible. Easily Grand Rapids greatest fighter who was shot down in his absolute prime.

How many other middleweights would have ignored the colour bar & fought Jack Johnson at heavyweight? He also fought the great Sam Langford in a close 6 round contest.




I think the older fighters tend to get forgotten but Ketchel was described as terrifying by his peers with his agressive style & raw power.

One to consider with a 95% KO rate for sure.

Just watched up on Ketchel. I have seen the Johnson clip many time but never knew who he was. He was only 24 but man it looked like he had some dynamite in his paws. Thanks for bringing him to my attention. That's why I like this forum so many knowledgeable folks.