[Snoop]

Without a doubt, Emmanuel Steward. Steward works well with tall fighters like Williams, and instructs them to use the basics, the only thing Williams really needs. Look at what Steward done with Wlad, and even with Wlad, you see Steward get pissed off for not opening up, and not going for it.
He wouldn't have that problem with Williams, he could train him to fight tall like he is supposed to, but unlike Wlad, Williams wouldn't be afraid to open up and go for it when the time is right, and scared of getting hit, so it's perfect for Steward, and will have all the benefits he has got from guys like Wlad, except without the frustration.

I was thinking Steward at first, mostly because of the physical similarities with Williams and Hearns, but at this point of his career, it may be too late for him like JLUV mentioned above. Depending on how well Williams can follow instruction, I could see that matchup turning into a Jermaine Taylor like outcome with a fighter trying to fight against their instincts. Sad story when it comes to Paul Williams. A fighter that coulda been great but never made it there.

[Allmenjoi8]

Paul Williams does not need any help.... he has judges on his side

[gravytrain]

i don't even see how it's open to debate if he could turn it around. for one he only has a couple fights left and is on record saying he pretty much knows what he wants to do and it's get Martinez again and maybe another fight. this guy has no time to implement anything except getting punched in the face. secondly he time and time again says he's not changing anything no matter what and anything that happens to him is just a fluke. when Martinez laid him out he wasn't talking about changing anything, it's just "that's a good shot. i get hit with shots like that a lot though and they usually don't put me out".

[D-MARV]

I have been thinking about some things and there still hope for PWill. He needs to take a page out of Floyd Pacquiao's book and fight guys who are custom made for him. I know he look like straight shit last night but I think that had more to do with the opponent then it did for PWill. I defintely think that Martinez fucked him up pretty bad but PWill can still make a little noise in the 154lb division. They need to throw him in there with a couple of creampuffs to get his confidence up. Then he can fight someone like a Clottey or Angulo. I would still take PWill over Cotto if he had a few tune ups. My advice to PWill is to STAY AWAY from slick southpaws.


It's whatever though... PWill has been in some brutal wars and his last fight he took a brutal beating. If PWill continues... he needs to step back and work his way back up. Fighting Martinez now would be suicide.

[JLUVBABY]

I have been thinking about some things and there still hope for PWill. He needs to take a page out of Floyd Pacquiao's book and fight guys who are custom made for him. I know he look like straight shit last night but I think that had more to do with the opponent then it did for PWill. I defintely think that Martinez fucked him up pretty bad but PWill can still make a little noise in the 154lb division. They need to throw him in there with a couple of creampuffs to get his confidence up. Then he can fight someone like a Clottey or Angulo. I would still take PWill over Cotto if he had a few tune ups. My advice to PWill is to STAY AWAY from slick southpaws.


It's whatever though... PWill has been in some brutal wars and his last fight he took a brutal beating. If PWill continues... he needs to step back and work his way back up. Fighting Martinez now would be suicide.

marv... i think angulo would dent that chin again...

[alaganza]

No trainer can help him. Mentally and emotionally Paul has checked out. He doesn't seem like he has the "want to" anymore. Once any athlete loses desire and/or confidence they are done. Paul may have lost them both.

[Hotsauce]

No trainer can help him. Mentally and emotionally Paul has checked out. He doesn't seem like he has the "want to" anymore. Once any athlete loses desire and/or confidence they are done. Paul may have lost them both.

yep. especially when he started talking about retiring after he got knocked out.

[DubC]

i don't think anyone could. even if he brought in a new trainer he wouldn't have the time or commitment to really change. if he got with someone like Manny Steward awhile ago i think he would be a beast though.

I thought this while watching the fight...Its probably to late for him to change his style...If you would use his height and reach properly he would be in much better shape, especially with his activity...If Manny were tutoring him, and could show him how to turn over his punches instead of throwing a shit load of pittypat punches, he would be much better...Manny could have shown him how to use his height, and I know PWill doesn't have Hearns power, but with his activity, height\reach and learning to sit on his punches instead of throw a shit load of slaps that the judges seem to see as winning the cat fight could do him a lot of good...

He has 40 wins, with 27 of those via KO\TKO...Last person he stopped was a 40 year old Verno Phillips...He hasn't stopped anyone of relevance other than Qunitana (and he isn't actually very relevant IMO-only person he has fought of note recently was Berto and was TKO'd there too)

I think PWill is done, and not a threat anymore...He will be a gatekeeper, if he fights Maravilla again like he wants (not happening) he will get KO'd again be done with boxing...

And for the record, call me stupid, but I actually thought that PWill was going to be the person that could challenge Floyd (who just fought ODLH a couple months before)...The reach and activity (throwing like 1300 hundred punches against Marg 2 months later that the May\ODLH fight), I felt would have given May problems...

Paul is not what he was, or was he ever what some thought he could be? I think most enjoyed watching his fights, because it was non stop punching and is exciting as compared to the Wlad approach...Looking back, the toughest fighter he fought PRE Sergio was Margs...And Margs was supposed to be the shit that everyone said would destroy Money, and that May was ducking him...Floyd would have feasted on Margs, and his slow foot work...It would have been a boxing clinic...

Ok, Beer + Me + thinking about boxing = rambling much more than I planned...


So I will end here...PWill is done as a top attraction, he will stay on HBO Champ Boxing for a few more fights before he realizes that his style of fighting if not going to work...(Now back to the OP) Its probably too late for him to change his style, but if he wants to even attempt to become relevant the only trainer that could help him out and show him the proper way he should fight with his size and reach would be Steward...And it is highly doubtful that it will happen

[Snoop]

I thought this while watching the fight...Its probably to late for him to change his style...If you would use his height and reach properly he would be in much better shape, especially with his activity...If Manny were tutoring him, and could show him how to turn over his punches instead of throwing a shit load of pittypat punches, he would be much better...Manny could have shown him how to use his height, and I know PWill doesn't have Hearns power, but with his activity, height\reach and learning to sit on his punches instead of throw a shit load of slaps that the judges seem to see as winning the cat fight could do him a lot of good...

He has 40 wins, with 27 of those via KO\TKO...Last person he stopped was a 40 year old Verno Phillips...He hasn't stopped anyone of relevance other than Qunitana (and he isn't actually very relevant IMO-only person he has fought of note recently was Berto and was TKO'd there too)

I think PWill is done, and not a threat anymore...He will be a gatekeeper, if he fights Maravilla again like he wants (not happening) he will get KO'd again be done with boxing...

And for the record, call me stupid, but I actually thought that PWill was going to be the person that could challenge Floyd (who just fought ODLH a couple months before)...The reach and activity (throwing like 1300 hundred punches against Marg 2 months later that the May\ODLH fight), I felt would have given May problems...

Paul is not what he was, or was he ever what some thought he could be? I think most enjoyed watching his fights, because it was non stop punching and is exciting as compared to the Wlad approach...Looking back, the toughest fighter he fought PRE Sergio was Margs...And Margs was supposed to be the shit that everyone said would destroy Money, and that May was ducking him...Floyd would have feasted on Margs, and his slow foot work...It would have been a boxing clinic...

Ok, Beer + Me + thinking about boxing = rambling much more than I planned...


So I will end here...PWill is done as a top attraction, he will stay on HBO Champ Boxing for a few more fights before he realizes that his style of fighting if not going to work...(Now back to the OP) Its probably too late for him to change his style, but if he wants to even attempt to become relevant the only trainer that could help him out and show him the proper way he should fight with his size and reach would be Steward...And it is highly doubtful that it will happen

Solid first post, especially if you considered it "beer rambling."

[Lil-lightsout]

Without a doubt, Emmanuel Steward. Steward works well with tall fighters like Williams, and instructs them to use the basics, the only thing Williams really needs. Look at what Steward done with Wlad, and even with Wlad, you see Steward get pissed off for not opening up, and not going for it.
He wouldn't have that problem with Williams, he could train him to fight tall like he is supposed to, but unlike Wlad, Williams wouldn't be afraid to open up and go for it when the time is right, and scared of getting hit, so it's perfect for Steward, and will have all the benefits he has got from guys like Wlad, except without the frustration.

I agree with this. But Paul would have to spend some significant time with Steward to really change his style up.

Not trying to be mean, but watching that fight last night made me think that Williams must be one of the dumbest fighters ever. You would have thought after getting cracked repeatedly with that same straight left over and over again, PW would have at least brought his gloves up to block the damn punch.

With his reach and height, man I would have him killing people with a stiff hard jab.