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May 6 2012, 09:46 AM
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Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 7-December 11 Member No.: 13,355 |
Ive said in one of the threads that this is one of those fights that would turn out differently than what most expect. As is usually the case with fights these days. It was a lot tougher for Floyd than people were thinking. One thing is for sure though, this means that a Floyd vs Pacquiao fight would be hot again. The last time Pacquiao fought he looked sloppy and it did take away the luster of a potential showdown with Floyd. Now Floyd has began looking a bit sloppy in his last fight too. So now, all of a sudden, Floyd and Manny is no longer so much a mismatch as most have begun to think. Don't get me wrong though, i still think Floyd will beat Pacquiao. But the luster of such a fight is back! Are you really comparing Floyd's last performance to Manny's ? Sloppy? This was tough, not sloppy. Make no mistake about it. You guys are giving Floyd far less credit than he deserves. I mean...again, it's Cotto we are talking about. At 154. I mean, what else do you want. I don't get it...I stand behind what I have written earlier...Money is a victim of his own brilliance. Look at how he finished the fight ? Have you seen the work on the ropes ? Have you seen those right hooks ? Damn..."I am in a no way situation, no matter what" ...True... Based on this kind of logic he suddenly got old after each tougher fight he has been in...Of course he is not 25 anymore, but damn. This man just put on one of the best performances of his career against a top level fighter and he is old a minute after the end of 12th round.... You got me all fired up ! This post has been edited by mitukczuk: May 6 2012, 10:00 AM |
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May 6 2012, 10:01 AM
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Strawweight Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 25-August 11 From: Pasay City, Philippines Member No.: 13,128 |
Are you really comparing Floyd's last performance to Manny's ? Sloppy? This was tough, not sloppy. Make no mistake about it. I don't call it tough. Because Cotto was someone who Pacquiao beat before. And Pacquiao did beat Cotto in a better fashion than what we've just watch earlier between Cotto and Mayweather. Now Pacquiao vs Marquez III was the same thing. Floyd did beat Marquez in a better fashion than Manny did in that fight. But somehow Pacquiao just looked pathetic in that fight. Now there is a bit of parallel. This is where I believe Styles really do make fights. Manny had trouble with Marquez, and Marquez was someone who got beat up by Floyd easy. While Floyd had trouble with Cotto, and Cotto was someone who got beat up by Manny easy. Now at least the excitement has reignited for a Floyd vs Manny fight. No veil has been lifted. And it's all smoke and mirrors as to who would win in that fight. But I still like Floyd to win there. |
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May 6 2012, 10:03 AM
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Super Bantamweight Group: Moderators Posts: 456 Joined: 30-September 11 Member No.: 13,282 |
I think Floyd looked quick and it didn't seem like he had lost a step or anything.
What surprised me was the blood. I'll be honest. I've never seen Floyd get bloodied like that, even though we've seen guys hit him. There's no doubt that he won the fight and won it easily, but he was made to look a lot more human than I can remember. In the Mosley fight, he took 2 incredible shots, but other than those moments, he beat the dog shit out of Shane. Cotto kept coming. He took those huge uppercuts and hooks, but kept coming. Floyd definitely took the foot off the gas in the middle rounds, which allowed Miguel to close the gap. I imagine he was conserving energy for the final rounds, which is where he really ran away with the fight. However, this is Floyd Mayweather we're talking about. He may well be the best conditioned athlete on the planet. If that's the case, then why would he have to coast rounds at all ? I just remember walking back home last night and feeling like he didn't look like the Floyd I'm used to seeing in the ring. I don't know what it is, but something was definitely not right. |
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May 6 2012, 10:04 AM
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Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 7-December 11 Member No.: 13,355 |
I don't call it tough. Because Cotto was someone who Pacquiao beat before. And Pacquiao did beat Cotto in a better fashion than what we've just watch earlier between Cotto and Mayweather. Now Pacquiao vs Marquez III was the same thing. Floyd did beat Marquez in a better fashion than Manny did in that fight. But somehow Pacquiao just looked pathetic in that fight. Now there is a bit of parallel. This is where I believe Styles really do make fights. Manny had trouble with Marquez, and Marquez was someone who got beat up by Floyd easy. While Floyd had trouble with Cotto, and Cotto was someone who got beat up by Manny easy. Now at least the excitement has reignited for a Floyd vs Manny fight. No veil has been lifted. And it's all smoke and mirrors as to who would win in that fight. But I still like Floyd to win there. I got you man. But I think sloppy is a bit too much. And don't forget about the 9 pound difference. If styles make fights, it wasn't a matter of sloppiness but styles. |
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May 6 2012, 10:11 AM
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Amateur Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 17-April 12 Member No.: 13,622 |
this was a damn good fight, and yes Floyd did take a lot of punches, but that's the risk of coming forward, usually he would just sit back and counter and that's how he won a lot of fights, Miguel looked greated but it just wasn't meant to be, no matter how you want to train, and how hard you work, some people are just better than you, and unfortunately for him Floyd was. I think he could be MP in a rematch. Mayweathers got 2 years left since he wants to retire at 37, so that's around 4-5 fights? Potentially Canelo? But I doubt Golden Boy want to lose there mascot, there's always Martinez who would drop to 154, but he doesn't have a large following bullshit, so Floyd won't fight him. There is obviously MP but that's been discussed to death. I think he'll move back to welterweight and take his pick at the new comers from the Light Welterweight division, Khans an obvious favourite for the fight because of the numbers he is likely to do, Peterson is another, by that time Ortiz and Berto may of finally had a fight who knows, The winner of that to fight him. Am pretty interested to see the PPV numbers I pretty much was glued watching the fight cause at any time I clicked off it my stream broke lol good fight, I would of paid for it. also 116-112. 4-5 fights? more like 2 more fights, he only fights once a year lol |
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May 6 2012, 10:12 AM
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Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 7-December 11 Member No.: 13,355 |
I think Floyd looked quick and it didn't seem like he had lost a step or anything. What surprised me was the blood. I'll be honest. I've never seen Floyd get bloodied like that, even though we've seen guys hit him. There's no doubt that he won the fight and won it easily, but he was made to look a lot more human than I can remember. In the Mosley fight, he took 2 incredible shots, but other than those moments, he beat the dog shit out of Shane. Cotto kept coming. He took those huge uppercuts and hooks, but kept coming. Floyd definitely took the foot off the gas in the middle rounds, which allowed Miguel to close the gap. I imagine he was conserving energy for the final rounds, which is where he really ran away with the fight. However, this is Floyd Mayweather we're talking about. He may well be the best conditioned athlete on the planet. If that's the case, then why would he have to coast rounds at all ? I just remember walking back home last night and feeling like he didn't look like the Floyd I'm used to seeing in the ring. I don't know what it is, but something was definitely not right. It takes one good jab to start a good bleeding from the nose, man. You know that. I don't deny the fact he got hit more and connected less, but..damn again ! People here were talking about how this will be the toughest since I don't know when. Now, when it has been one of the toughest and these predictions were fulfilled, Floyd got suddenly old, he is not himself, something was wrong as if there was an expectation of 12 round UD total blow-out or 1st round KO in favor of Floyd. (I was one of those who said it will be the Cotto's corner stoppage) I was totally impartial going into this fight. Mad love for both guys, but seeing these harsh statements is making me lean towards lil' Floyd. This post has been edited by mitukczuk: May 6 2012, 10:15 AM |
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May 6 2012, 10:22 AM
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Amateur Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 17-April 12 Member No.: 13,622 |
I don't call it tough. Because Cotto was someone who Pacquiao beat before. And Pacquiao did beat Cotto in a better fashion than what we've just watch earlier between Cotto and Mayweather. Now Pacquiao vs Marquez III was the same thing. Floyd did beat Marquez in a better fashion than Manny did in that fight. But somehow Pacquiao just looked pathetic in that fight. Now there is a bit of parallel. This is where I believe Styles really do make fights. Manny had trouble with Marquez, and Marquez was someone who got beat up by Floyd easy. While Floyd had trouble with Cotto, and Cotto was someone who got beat up by Manny easy. Now at least the excitement has reignited for a Floyd vs Manny fight. No veil has been lifted. And it's all smoke and mirrors as to who would win in that fight. But I still like Floyd to win there. Your also forgetting Pacman fought him at 144 so its not really a fair comparison, I guarantee even if Mayweather had Cotto drop to 147.. it would of been an easy fight but that 154 walking around weight makes a big difference |
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May 6 2012, 10:22 AM
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Strawweight Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 25-August 11 From: Pasay City, Philippines Member No.: 13,128 |
It was one of the hardest fight to watch because people here (in this country) cheer for Mayweather's opposition all the time. They don't care if its not a Filipino fighting in there, as long as it's the opponent of Mayweather then they cheer for that. That is the extent of their being anti-Floyd.
And all the time the camera showed Floyd's bloodied face, people here laughed, cheered, and giggled. And I watched this in a PPV in a closed theater, so there were like hundreds of people in there, and it was kind of really hard to watch. Because I was rooting for Floyd to win and not look bad in the fight. And the loud happy people seeing him hurt like that ... it was difficult for me being a fan. |
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May 6 2012, 10:55 AM
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Lightweight Group: Members Posts: 747 Joined: 10-November 06 Member No.: 5,559 |
Am I the only one who saw that Floyd seemed "not so there" tonight? Cotto is a slow guy, and not all that quick, but for him to tee off on Floyd was a bit weird. Again, did anyone find this fight weird? Mayweather did nearly have him out of there in the 12th rd. In the old 15 rd boxing fights Cotto dont make it to the final bell. With that said Cotto really put the pressure on and had a good gameplan. He should have used the jab a lttle more, but then he opens himself for the counter right which Floyd is so sneaky about. All in all this was a terrific fight. No need for a rematch, but wouldnt be surprised to see one. Cotto has a lot of fight left in him. He's got at least 4-5 more big fights in him. Now the question is...who do these guys fight later this year?? If I had my choice I would love to see Cotto go and fight a Kirkland type guy or a welterweight moving up. When it comes to Mayweather, obviously the big fight is Pacman, but prolly not gonna happen. I was dissapointed when they said they werent gonna match Mayweather with Alvarez later this year. Maybe they are saving that one for next cinco de mayo. So that leaves guys like Khan,Alexander,Berto,Ortiz,Peterson or Martinez. We shall see, but it would be nice to see Mayweather back in the ring in November or December. This post has been edited by xxxxxx: May 6 2012, 11:09 AM |
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May 6 2012, 11:26 AM
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Flyweight Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 16-May 11 Member No.: 12,191 |
I thought Floyd fought a helluva fight. You can't compare this fight with Pacquiao vs Cotto at all because Pac made him drop all the way down to 145 lbs and they fought in 8 oz gloves. Cotto insisted on 10 oz gloves with Mayweather. Floyd looked a little more tired than normal but that's because of the pace of the fight and all the clinching and wrestling around with Cotto. Cotto fought a helluva fight too. The fight went kinda how I envisioned it except I pictured Floyd landing lead straight rights instead of right hooks but that was a good adjustment by Floyd cause Cotto was defending the straight right pretty good. Manny Steward said this was the best he's seen Floyd fight in a long time.
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