[daprofessor]

We share the same doubts man. I hate to see fighter's get jerked, but hey, he DID sign the contract, so I cant say much. I have find the recent article in which Bob stated that he has 3 more years on Pacquaio's contract.

I cant see Manny buying out of his contract, I just cant. He would more than likely have to pay what he is potentially going to earn for his future fights, or at least a large percentage of it (somebody help me out with the buyout process please).

Bob already lost the likes of Oscar and Floyd to a buyout, so I'm not so sure he will make it that easy for Manny to weasel his way out.

i haven't seen the contract...but i'm willing to bet there is terms in there about buying it out or terminating it. bob isn't stupid. he's got his claws into this dude and pac didn't make it any easier for himself by signing with gbp while he was still with bob. do the math...dude has two promoters....two managers....and advisor.....two trainers....roach/buboy....and two strength and conditioning coaches....plus his entourage. when it's all said and done...where will they be?

This post has been edited by daprofessor: Jun 13 2012, 12:18 PM

[Franchize]

i guess i lost all desire/hope/whatever u wanna call it, of seeing the pac/mayweather fight after marquez schooled pacquiao the last time they fought. to be honest...i never thought pac had a chance against floyd. marquez only cemented what i already knew. now...watching bradley make this dude miss a shit load of punches and control the fight for the first 3 and last 3-4 rounds with very simple boxing...i think most should realize at this point that pac has absolutely no business stepping foot in the same ring with floyd mayweather jr. the only ppl who want to see that are the ones who knew pac was all hype and just want to silence the pac die hards.

the guy that brought up the rematch was bradley....and that was because he knew he was going to win. i found it amusing....and i have to say it's even more amusing to hear the pac die hards screaming conspiracy.

for the record....pac/marquez 3 was a robbery. i could not give pac more than 2 or 3 rounds. pac/bradley could have gone either way. that's not a robbery in my book.

Actually, Bob Arum was shouting rematch to ESPN, Yahoo sports and a few other sites before the press conference even happened. My friend had a site that said Arum was heard discussing a rematch in the ring with Bradley before the decision was even made. If I can find the site I'll post it.He discussed a rematch when Manny was at the podium saying "if you want a rematch Manny then you can have it." Arum set this up from the start. The only reason he's acting "outraged" now is because of the public outcry. He was also quoted as saying the Vegas bookies and club owners told him that nobody cared to see a rematch regardless.

[daprofessor]

Actually, Bob Arum was shouting rematch to ESPN, Yahoo sports and a few other sites before the press conference even happened. My friend had a site that said Arum was heard discussing a rematch in the ring with Bradley before the decision was even made. If I can find the site I'll post it.He discussed a rematch when Manny was at the podium saying "if you want a rematch Manny then you can have it." Arum set this up from the start. The only reason he's acting "outraged" now is because of the public outcry. He was also quoted as saying the Vegas bookies and club owners told him that nobody cared to see a rematch regardless.

bradley mentioned rematch at the final presser before the fight last wednesday.

arum discussing rematch after the fight is not surprising. pac looked like shit.

[Franchize]

i haven't seen the contract...but i'm willing to bet there is terms in there about buying it out or terminating it. bob isn't stupid. he's got his claws into this dude and pac didn't make it any easier for himself by signing with gbp while he was still with bob. do the math...dude has two promoters....two managers....and advisor.....two trainers....roach/buboy....and two strength and conditioning coaches....plus his entourage. when it's all said and done...where will they be?

Pacquiao isn't going anywhere. Furthermore, I think Bob will try to muscle him into signing an extension if he wants another major fight. My boy, who's Filipino and friends with Manny, expressed his desire to see Manny retire. He said that he shares the sentiment of most Filipino Americans. e just wants Manny to hang em up and help their homeland. He also said that Filipinos are becoming more aware of the leeches surrounding Manny and it's starting to become embarassing to him. He thinks it's part of the reason why Manny started devoting himself to religion more. Really sad if you ask me.

Also, is it just me, or was HBO, Top Rank and others really disrespectful about Manny's newfound dedication to his faith? I mean I can see people thinking there is some ulterior motive. However, who are they to judge a man trying to better himself. He's only going to be a boxer for a few more years. Those are going to be his kids for the rest of his life. It would behoove him to start strengthening his relationship with God and his wife...especially if he's going into politics. Sometimes, I think fans,analyst, critics etc take it a little to far and stretch the limits of our audacity. God didn't make Manny miss all those wild punches.

[daprofessor]

Pacquiao isn't going anywhere. Furthermore, I think Bob will try to muscle him into signing an extension if he wants another major fight. My boy, who's Filipino and friends with Manny, expressed his desire to see Manny retire. He said that he shares the sentiment of most Filipino Americans. e just wants Manny to hang em up and help their homeland. He also said that Filipinos are becoming more aware of the leeches surrounding Manny and it's starting to become embarassing to him. He thinks it's part of the reason why Manny started devoting himself to religion more. Really sad if you ask me.

Also, is it just me, or was HBO, Top Rank and others really disrespectful about Manny's newfound dedication to his faith? I mean I can see people thinking there is some ulterior motive. However, who are they to judge a man trying to better himself. He's only going to be a boxer for a few more years. Those are going to be his kids for the rest of his life. It would behoove him to start strengthening his relationship with God and his wife...especially if he's going into politics. Sometimes, I think fans,analyst, critics etc take it a little to far and stretch the limits of our audacity. God didn't make Manny miss all those wild punches.

i got that feeling as well. not sure i can point to anything directly...but the questions and focus definitely seemed disrespectful.

i think it's time for pac to hang em up too. everyone has caught on to his style. i can't see it changing much. the other big fights out there for him will be tough. he's got nothing left to prove. he should pull a marvin hagler and walk away.

[sduck]

He should hang em up while the media still sees him as this "God."

[checkleft]

Dude arum probably had this sketched for a while now. Pac will win the next fight and they will have a trilogy and then the winner will fight marquez when he's too old to even be a threat. Arum isn't stupid

[mgrover]

Dude arum probably had this sketched for a while now. Pac will win the next fight and they will have a trilogy and then the winner will fight marquez when he's too old to even be a threat. Arum isn't stupid

gotta wonder though if marquez will ever be too old to be a threat to pac.

[Hotsauce]

My point wasn't about the scoring. Look, normally when the susperstar wins unjustly, I'm pissed...but I get it. They don't want their prize possession to lose to a guy who they can't market. But this is a whole new ballgame. When your trying to set up 2-3 fights so your guys don't have to fight guys under other promotion labels, that ruins the sport. Look at Marquez. He's basically been put on the shelf for a Pacquiao fight. He's become the gimp in Pulp Fiction; somewhere stuffed in a back room until it's time for Bob Arum to fuck him over again. I said before Bradley even signed with Top Rank that he would be Manny's next opponent. Anything short of if Manny KO'd Bradley in the opening rounds, there was going to be a rematch. As long as it was competitive, there was always going to be a rematch. Bob Arum, for all his outrage, what shouting rematch the whole time. It was the 1st time I ever saw rematches being talked abotu so much in the pre-fight pressers. Bob Arum does a great job of thinking 2-3 fights ahead. Unfortunately for us, none of those fights ever include Mayweather.

arum is playing chess