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post Jul 15 2011, 09:20 PM
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Well, it looks like Greenburg has finally been axed.

Davis will probably be next...but there's an outside shot that he'll stay.

We'll see if my previous story about Rafael becoming the HBO matchmaker becomes true.

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LMAO at them giving credit to Pacquiao going to Showtime as being the primary reason. LOL.

Anyone think that Ross Greenburg saying that there were negotiations may have been attempt to keep his job, only to see Arum turn around and FUCK HIM by taking Pacquiao to Showtime anyway.

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BoxingScene.com has learned that Ross Greenburg is out as HBO's President of Sports, and that his removal is expected to be announced as early as Monday, according to multiple sources familiar with the network's decision.

Although Greenburg will no longer be on HBO's payroll, he has apparently accepted a role as an independent producer of one or more documentaries that will be financed by HBO as part of his severance package.

Greenburg became the president of HBO Sports in the fall of 2000, replacing Seth Abraham when Abraham left Time Warner Sports to become executive vice president and chief operating officer of New York's Madison Square Garden.

Much of Greenburg's demise can be traced to the loss of boxing's biggest star, eight-division titlist Manny Pacquiao (53-3-2, 38 knockouts), to rival cable giant Showtime in May.

In May, Pacquiao's earned a unanimous decision in defense of his WBO welterweight title over Shane Mosley (46-7-1, 39 KOs), a bout that was televised on and distributed on Showtime Pay-Per-View and promoted heavily on CBS, that network's parent company.

Although it was the first time that either Pacquiao or Mosley had been televised on Showtime, Greenburg, during an interview with BoxingScene.com in January, downplayed the significance of the move by Top Rank Promotions CEO Bob Arum, promoter of the fight.

"You know, it was a business decision that Bob Arum made, and it was a one-fight deal, we'll just take it from there. But that's really all that I can say about it. We're just moving on and doing what we do best, and that's putting big fights together featuring the best fighters in the world," said Greenburg at the time.

"This is a one fight deal, so we will just wait and see what happens after this fight. It's more a matter of having established over 35 years a brand in HBO boxing, and I've been a part of it for 32 of those 35 years."So this is not going upset our positioning as the preiminant boxing network."

But that was not the view of Abraham, who was considered an architect of HBO Boxing’s rise to boxing prominence.

In a May 6 New York Times article written by Greg Bishop, Abraham compared the Pacquiao-Showtime partnership to the end of Joe DiMaggio’s 56-game hitting streak.

For years, wrote Greg Bishop, dating at least to when Mike Tyson left HBO in the mid-1990s, the network had staged the bouts of the sport’s best fighters.

"The streak is over," Abraham told The New York Times. "But the impact is not what happens in the ring. It’s what happens afterward. And there, it’s potentially very, very dramatic from a business standpoint."

In January, however, Greenburg insisted that HBO would recover from its failure to land Pacquiao-Mosley.

"That's what we've always prided ourselves on, and we continue to look for the best fighters in the world," said Greenburg. "If they're in the same division, we match them up. That's what the public expects of us, and that's what we'll continue to do."

Arum said that he still is undecided which of the two networks -- HBO or Showtime -- will get the November 12 third bout between Pacquiao and WBO and WBA light weight titlist Juan Manuel Marquez (52-5-1, 38 KOs), and the Dec. 3 rematch between WBA junior middleweight king Miguel Cotto (36-2, 29 KOs) and Antonio Margarito (38-7, 27 KOs).

The two networks still are in a bidding war over two bouts. HBO already has put out a bid to Top Rank, which expects a counter offer from Showtime on Tuesday.

A 1977 Brown University graduate and winner of the Sam Taub Award for excellence in boxing broadcasting, Greenburg was also responsible for HBO series' such as "Sports of the 20th Century," as well as "Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel," and, "Inside The NFL," the latter featuring Bob Costas, Dan Marino, Cris Carter, and Chris Collinsworth.
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post Jul 15 2011, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE (thehype @ Jul 15 2011, 08:20 PM) *
Well, it looks like Greenburg has finally been axed.

Davis will probably be next...but there's an outside shot that he'll stay.

We'll see if my previous story about Rafael becoming the HBO matchmaker becomes true.

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LMAO at them giving credit to Pacquiao going to Showtime as being the primary reason. LOL.

Anyone think that Ross Greenburg saying that there were negotiations may have been attempt to keep his job, only to see Arum turn around and FUCK HIM by taking Pacquiao to Showtime anyway.

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I'm not a huge boxing business guy but this guy got canned for letting one fighter got to a rival network? I mean it looked like he did some really good things at HBO and still has Mayweather Ortiz under the HBO umbrella. Must have been something else.
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post Jul 15 2011, 09:41 PM
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Must have been the Bradley-Alexander stinker.
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post Jul 15 2011, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE (Hops @ Jul 15 2011, 10:41 PM) *
Must have been the Bradley-Alexander stinker.


I think that would be closer. That and the ridiculous next-fight million dollar guaranteess they gave to both those party poopers.
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post Jul 15 2011, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Jul 15 2011, 10:34 PM) *
I'm not a huge boxing business guy but this guy got canned for letting one fighter got to a rival network? I mean it looked like he did some really good things at HBO and still has Mayweather Ortiz under the HBO umbrella. Must have been something else.


It was simply the nail on the coffin for Greenburg. He had been running HBO boxing to the ground.
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post Jul 15 2011, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Jul 15 2011, 10:58 PM) *
I think that would be closer. That and the ridiculous next-fight million dollar guaranteess they gave to both those party poopers.


i think HBO has been dropping the ball for a while now. a perfect example is Alexander and Bradley. HBO takes it up the ass to get them in the ring and that fight ended up being something with 0 appeal to a casual fan. Alexander's bitchass even quit. then Alexander comes back and gets a nice payday for hometown decision and Bradley as the winner of the fight wont even fight Khan for whatever reason. you give a guy like Bradley a huge opportunity and then when it's his turn to do something for HBO it's just "i'm good, i'll collect that 7 figure payday for anyone in the top 10 though". so for the millions they're spending on that fight they've got 2 mediocre fights.
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post Jul 15 2011, 10:14 PM
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I'd keep Ross Greenburg over Kery Davis. Davis is completely over his head. At least Greenburg was AROUND during the HBO glory days.

As for Rafael as the new matchmaker..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) x 100,000,000
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post Jul 16 2011, 02:09 AM
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i know a lot of people dont like ol dan.. i can say i dont care for him much myself but he cant do any worse than what we've been getting... hopefully we'll see some better fights with him in there if he gets the job... At least he considers himself the ultimate boxing no-it-all....
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post Jul 16 2011, 02:46 AM
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This guy deserved to be canned as he's definitely past his prime. over the last couple years he's brought us:
1) The bullshit amount of PPV views which should have been on the regular HBO program (ie: Mosley vs Mora; Jones Jr. vs Calzaghe; Mayweather vs Baldomir etc.)
2) the constant non-competitive matchups between young stars and sacrificial lambs
3) The constant 7-figure paydays awarded to berto for fighting nobodies (same as #2)
4) The immense favoritism the company gave to Golden Boy and Al Haymon while overlooking plenty of other solid fights (ie: Vazquez-Marquez series;
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post Jul 16 2011, 03:51 AM
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QUOTE (mexi-cutioner @ Jul 16 2011, 02:46 AM) *
This guy deserved to be canned as he's definitely past his prime. over the last couple years he's brought us:
1) The bullshit amount of PPV views which should have been on the regular HBO program (ie: Mosley vs Mora; Jones Jr. vs Calzaghe; Mayweather vs Baldomir etc.)
2) the constant non-competitive matchups between young stars and sacrificial lambs
3) The constant 7-figure paydays awarded to berto for fighting nobodies (same as #2)
4) The immense favoritism the company gave to Golden Boy and Al Haymon while overlooking plenty of other solid fights (ie: Vazquez-Marquez series;


The question is, with a new head or heads at HBO's boxing department, which of the above four will go to make boxing better and more competittive? Like it was in the Dibella era?

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I'd keep Ross Greenburg over Kery Davis. Davis is completely over his head. At least Greenburg was AROUND during the HBO glory days.

As for Rafael as the new matchmaker..... x 100,000,000


I agree 100%. But at the same time, could it be worse?

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