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niggsy
post Dec 9 2007, 01:28 AM
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I watched Ricky Hatton fight tonight and although he was outclassed by a very good boxer, the referee, Joe Cortez, was pathetic, he never gave the boxers chance to fight on the inside, he penalised hatton for a punch that never was and he constantly allowed mayweather to turn, bend over and use his elbows. I'm looking forward to a rematch in the UK with, hopefully, a neutral referee. Hatton did very well by stepping up a weight to fight mayweather and Im sure I speak for the whole UK by saying we're very proud of his achievements. Joe Cortez should now retire and take a very long hard look at himself!
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post Dec 9 2007, 01:36 AM
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Hatton belongs at 140. He can beat everyone there...except for Paulie.
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post Dec 9 2007, 01:43 AM
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Joe Cortez was SO SO SO over his head tonight.
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post Dec 9 2007, 02:17 AM
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I don't know how you can say that hatton lost a point deservedly, as mayweather bent over and the punch never even connected, so by making that decision forced hatton out of his gameplan. Mayweather said he would love to fight in the UK and a rematch must be on the cards once Ricky gets more experience at this weight. I'm sure the WBC could have picked a referee with a spine as they would if the fight was in the UK, but as it was in Vegas they chose a big name who's had his day!!
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post Dec 9 2007, 02:22 AM
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Joe did the best he could do in there, he had ALOT to deal with. I thought he was very unbiased in there, there was alot of fouling on both fighters. Hey Niggsy, by chance have you ever watched any of the fights in Manchester when Ricky fought? I am curious on your take of the refs quality of officiating in all his fights. You will truly see pathetic BIASED refs.
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post Dec 9 2007, 02:27 AM
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I thought Cortez did a fine job tonight. He let them do work on the inside... I don't know what you're talking about when you say he didn't. He would give them a solid 5 seconds after locking up their arms and doing nothing before he'd break it. It wasn't like one of those situations where 2 fighters get close and there's an immediate break.

Oh, and the point deduction was 100% justified. Who cares if the punch didn't land perfectly clean? It was a partially landed illegal blow. What if a fighter tries to kick his opponent in the face, but it only barely touches or even misses? Is there to be no deduction because the foul didn't land when it was clearly intended to? Get real.

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post Dec 9 2007, 02:35 AM
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Of course I have, I've followed Hattons career from the start. I just think Cortez could have waited a bit longer before wading in to break and as for the deduction, this was the cause of the stoppage. Even though Hatton was beaten we're still very proud of him and he will always be a great fighter, and I'm sure he'll be back.
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post Dec 9 2007, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE(BrutalBodyShots @ Dec 9 2007, 02:27 AM) [snapback]369382[/snapback]
Oh, and the point deduction was 100% justified. Who cares if the punch didn't land perfectly clean? It was a partially landed illegal blow. What if a fighter tries to kick his opponent in the face, but it only barely touches or even misses? Is there to be no deduction because the foul didn't land when it was clearly intended to? Get real.

Excellent point.
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post Dec 9 2007, 05:50 AM
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QUOTE(BrutalBodyShots @ Dec 9 2007, 02:27 AM) [snapback]369382[/snapback]
I thought Cortez did a fine job tonight. He let them do work on the inside... I don't know what you're talking about when you say he didn't. He would give them a solid 5 seconds after locking up their arms and doing nothing before he'd break it. It wasn't like one of those situations where 2 fighters get close and there's an immediate break.

Oh, and the point deduction was 100% justified. Who cares if the punch didn't land perfectly clean? It was a partially landed illegal blow. What if a fighter tries to kick his opponent in the face, but it only barely touches or even misses? Is there to be no deduction because the foul didn't land when it was clearly intended to? Get real.


This is what I remember happened. I will check again though.

Floyd blatantly turned his back and ducked away, Hatton went to punch but stopped.


IMO, Floyd should have a point deducted. He turned his back and ducked off.


I thought Joe Cortez was too quick to jump in and break the fitght up. He let Floyd get away with a lot and was pretty quick to jump on Hatton.
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post Dec 9 2007, 06:05 AM
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QUOTE(ROLL DEEP @ Dec 9 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]369426[/snapback]
This is what I remember happened. I will check again though.

Floyd blatantly turned his back and ducked away, Hatton went to punch but stopped.
IMO, Floyd should have a point deducted. He turned his back and ducked off.
I thought Joe Cortez was too quick to jump in and break the fitght up. He let Floyd get away with a lot and was pretty quick to jump on Hatton.

When I watched the replay, it was clear that Hatton pushed Floyd down towards the ropes and took a swing at the back of his head but missed. I agree with Brutal. True the punch didn't land but the intention was definitely there.
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