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post Dec 9 2007, 04:03 AM
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It's early to start talking about this fight, but I think it's safe to say this is the fight to make at Welterweight.I know Mayweather wants a break and he deserves it, but now is the time to make these fights when he's still at peak level.If these two superstars fought it could unify the WBC,WBA & RING Titles which would be something neither man has done.Also, Mayweather wouldn't have to work with Golden Boy on this one either.He could get back at Arum for all the negative things he has said about Floyd.Personally, I think Floyd should take this fight in 2008.It would advance his Legacy even further and it's a fight he can win and look good.Cotto has improved, but so has Mayweather over the years.I think Mayweathers defense and skills would take him to a decision victory.Cotto can be hit often if the right gameplan is put in place.I believe Mayweather is still very quick and has the experience advantage over Cotto.This fight would sell and possibly be an instant classic.
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post Dec 10 2007, 08:33 PM
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Yeh, see a guy like Hearns would be the most BRUTAL fight for Floyd! But Hearns is a once in a century type of fighter! Not to mention, Mayweather is BY FAR the naturally smaller guy, so the matchup is kind of unfair.

I think the fighter to beat Floyd would be more measured in their attack with a good jab of their own, similar to Oscar and Castillo, not just walking into the killzone carelessly, as Corrales and Hatton did (this enables Floyd to hit you too easily). They also need to RAKE the body all night long and have a HUGE body punch. Another thing they need is great fitness, keep their hands HIGH (DLH did this well) and throw a loopy right hand (similar to Mosley). Cotto has most of these things, if he can just learn to throw a loopy right hand better.

Another thing you need to do is throw punches from unconventional angles (a guy like Mayorga, Corley, though this is hard to do unless you started doing it young) as Mayweather cannot see these coming and use that vision to roll with them and cover using his shoulder. You would really need to prepare for Maywaether as a totally seperate fight, practicing every aspect in training and then execute it well, but no doubt, it can be done! Every fighter can be beaten!



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post Dec 10 2007, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(and the NEW @ Dec 10 2007, 08:33 PM) [snapback]369887[/snapback]
Yeh, see a guy like Hearns would be the most BRUTAL fight for Floyd! But Hearns is a once in a century type of fighter! Not to mention, Mayweather is BY FAR the naturally smaller guy, so the matchup is kind of unfair.

I think the fighter to beat Floyd would be more measured in their attack with a good jab of their own, similar to Oscar and Castillo, not just walking into the killzone carelessly, as Corrales and Hatton did (this enables Floyd to hit you too easily). They also need to RAKE the body all night long and have a HUGE body punch. Another thing they need is great fitness, keep their hands HIGH (DLH did this well) and throw a loopy right hand (similar to Mosley). Cotto has most of these things, if he can just learn to throw a loopy right hand better.

Another thing you need to do is throw punches from unconventional angles (a guy like Mayorga, Corley, though this is hard to do unless you started doing it young) as Mayweather cannot see these coming and use that vision to roll with them and cover using his shoulder. You would really need to prepare for Maywaether as a totally seperate fight, practicing every aspect in training and then execute it well, but no doubt, it can be done! Every fighter can be beaten!


Here's the thing though, every fighter approches a fight with floyd like this {Here is the thing I can do to beat him} There is no one THING!!!!!. You have to be multi-facetted with a dynamic approch to winning. You have to have {Like you stated} an inside gameplan, an outside gameplan, and a dynamic gameplan {That changes based on what is happening} If you come into the fight with that one thing, floyd will see it and change his stragegy instantly.

Its like what the announcer stated on either SKYBox or HBO, floyd is studying what you're doing during the fight and making changes to his game at the same time. Which shows how dynamic he is to alter what he's doing during the middle of a fight at will. The hatton fight is a very good example, hatton and his trainer kept saying that hattons style will cause all kinds of problems for floyd. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF RICKY'S STYLE DOESN'T HAVE THE EFFECT YOU EXPECTED, THEN WHAT????? In this regard ricky is and was one-dimensional because when he saw that floyd was dealing with the pressure very well, he had no plan B to execute.
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- xxxxxx   Mayweather VS Cotto   Dec 9 2007, 04:03 AM
- - biggeorge89   Hmmm...Cotto will give Floyd fits. Why? Because Co...   Dec 9 2007, 05:50 AM
|- - moscow bear   QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 11:50 AM)...   Dec 9 2007, 09:03 AM
- - ROLL DEEP   This is the only fight I want to see Floyd in. I...   Dec 9 2007, 05:55 AM
- - snoopnick   Cotto will give Mayweather his hardest fight to da...   Dec 9 2007, 06:25 AM
- - The Conscience   I think Cotto can beat him. In a fight against Ma...   Dec 9 2007, 08:46 AM
- - salvador   Cotto doesn't have the footwork to get inside....   Dec 9 2007, 08:53 AM
- - biggeorge89   I think Margarito is really too slow for Floyd.......   Dec 9 2007, 08:57 AM
|- - xxxxxx   QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 09:57 AM)...   Dec 9 2007, 12:27 PM
- - biggeorge89   Can you please show me the post? I honestly dont e...   Dec 9 2007, 09:04 AM
|- - Maxy   QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 09:04 AM)...   Dec 9 2007, 04:11 PM
- - salvador   Yeah, but Margarito is 4 inches taller than Cotto ...   Dec 9 2007, 09:04 AM
- - biggeorge89   Williams is a guy I think Floyd would have fits wi...   Dec 9 2007, 09:12 AM
|- - salvador   QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 10:12 AM)...   Dec 9 2007, 09:20 AM
- - biggeorge89   I really believe Mayweather will fight Cotto and c...   Dec 9 2007, 09:23 AM
|- - salvador   QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 10:23 AM)...   Dec 9 2007, 09:25 AM
- - biggeorge89   I think Floyd doesn't have any interest in fig...   Dec 9 2007, 09:37 AM
|- - salvador   QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 10:37 AM)...   Dec 9 2007, 09:45 AM
- - biggeorge89   IF thats the case then Floyd retires.   Dec 9 2007, 09:46 AM
- - JD   Mayweather beats Cotto and does so easier than he ...   Dec 9 2007, 09:53 AM
|- - The Conscience   QUOTE(JD @ Dec 9 2007, 09:53 AM) 369485Ma...   Dec 9 2007, 10:02 AM
||- - JD   QUOTE(The Conscience @ Dec 9 2007, 10:02 ...   Dec 9 2007, 10:09 AM
||- - The Conscience   QUOTE(JD @ Dec 9 2007, 10:09 AM) 369490Co...   Dec 9 2007, 10:38 AM
||- - salvador   QUOTE(The Conscience @ Dec 9 2007, 11:38 ...   Dec 9 2007, 10:50 AM
||- - JD   QUOTE(The Conscience @ Dec 9 2007, 10:38 ...   Dec 9 2007, 11:28 AM
|- - singletrack   QUOTE(JD @ Dec 9 2007, 09:53 AM) 369485Ma...   Dec 10 2007, 11:31 PM
|- - JD   QUOTE(singletrack @ Dec 10 2007, 11:31 PM...   Dec 11 2007, 07:31 AM
|- - singletrack   QUOTE(JD @ Dec 11 2007, 07:31 AM) 369972L...   Dec 12 2007, 11:35 AM
|- - JD   QUOTE(singletrack @ Dec 12 2007, 11:35 AM...   Dec 12 2007, 11:59 AM
|- - Nay_Sayer   QUOTE(JD @ Dec 12 2007, 10:59 AM) 370136B...   Dec 12 2007, 12:42 PM
|- - JD   QUOTE(Nay_Sayer @ Dec 12 2007, 12:42 PM) ...   Dec 12 2007, 12:56 PM
- - biggeorge89   Article from boxingscene After Floyd Mayweath...   Dec 9 2007, 10:02 AM
|- - JD   QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 10:02 AM)...   Dec 9 2007, 10:06 AM
|- - salvador   QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 11:02 AM)...   Dec 9 2007, 10:10 AM
- - neophyte7   BE PATIENT COTTO and hope that your face fighting...   Dec 9 2007, 10:11 AM
- - imperial   Cotto has the patience to make this a very competi...   Dec 9 2007, 11:08 AM
- - Jack 1000   Mayweather by decision or late stoppage, Cotto is...   Dec 9 2007, 11:47 AM
- - SpitShineTommy   DAAAM....I m still pissed Ricky got beat down by p...   Dec 9 2007, 12:02 PM
- - Jack 1000   QUOTEWhat about PAUL WILLIAMS ???? he might actual...   Dec 9 2007, 12:29 PM
|- - BrutalBodyShots   I've got Mayweather over Cotto without questio...   Dec 9 2007, 01:29 PM
- - WolfishPromistah   If I were Floyd, I'd probably take just two mo...   Dec 9 2007, 01:29 PM
- - X3_Bazooka_X3   according to Lampley Floyd doesnt love boxing anym...   Dec 9 2007, 03:11 PM
|- - BrutalBodyShots   QUOTE(X3_Bazooka_X3 @ Dec 9 2007, 03:11 P...   Dec 9 2007, 03:26 PM
|- - X3_Bazooka_X3   QUOTE(BrutalBodyShots @ Dec 9 2007, 12:26...   Dec 9 2007, 03:29 PM
|- - BrutalBodyShots   Most of the people that felt Mayweather beat Oscar...   Dec 9 2007, 03:44 PM
- - The Conscience   I think too much is being made about Cotto foot wo...   Dec 9 2007, 04:06 PM
- - moscow bear   I actually think that Paul Williams has the lowest...   Dec 9 2007, 05:19 PM
|- - Lil-lightsout   QUOTE(moscow bear @ Dec 9 2007, 05:19 PM)...   Dec 9 2007, 06:03 PM
- - neophyte7   You make a good reference. Even Floyd SR says that...   Dec 9 2007, 05:34 PM
- - dbdbdb   In spite of the fact that this is the fight that t...   Dec 9 2007, 08:32 PM
|- - BrutalBodyShots   A Mosley win for Floyd wouldn't do anything to...   Dec 9 2007, 08:52 PM
- - and the NEW   I think Mosley is the man to trouble Floyd, the lo...   Dec 10 2007, 12:18 AM
|- - The Ring Dictator   QUOTE(and the NEW @ Dec 10 2007, 06:18 AM...   Dec 10 2007, 07:02 AM
|- - and the NEW   QUOTE(The Ring Dictator @ Dec 10 2007, 12...   Dec 10 2007, 07:43 PM
- - biggeorge89   I think Cotto and Williams are the two guys that w...   Dec 10 2007, 07:31 AM
- - ROLL DEEP   Cotto or Mosely for me. Either of those would be...   Dec 10 2007, 08:07 AM
- - PUERTOROCKS   http://youtube.com/watch?v=y3mTLmydh6U   Dec 10 2007, 09:35 AM
- - biggeorge89   ^ I agree. Weather you like PBF or not, you have ...   Dec 10 2007, 07:49 PM
- - and the NEW   Mayweather is one of the very best out there, I ha...   Dec 10 2007, 08:01 PM
- - biggeorge89   Yeah. in terms of legacies, there are guys out the...   Dec 10 2007, 08:03 PM
- - and the NEW   Most definately. Not to mention, he is the kind o...   Dec 10 2007, 08:10 PM
- - dbdbdb   QUOTE(and the NEW @ Dec 10 2007, 07:43 PM...   Dec 10 2007, 08:18 PM
- - and the NEW   Yeh, see a guy like Hearns would be the most BRUTA...   Dec 10 2007, 08:33 PM
|- - dbdbdb   QUOTE(and the NEW @ Dec 10 2007, 08:33 PM...   Dec 10 2007, 08:50 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   In this fight, I saw a level of toughness and fero...   Dec 10 2007, 09:02 PM
|- - singletrack   QUOTE(The Original MrFactor @ Dec 10 2007, 09...   Dec 10 2007, 11:42 PM
- - PR316   I think in terms of PURE TALENT AND SKILL, I would...   Dec 10 2007, 09:06 PM
- - kidbazooka1   The obviouse pick here would be Floyd but I gove C...   Dec 10 2007, 09:09 PM
|- - The Conscience   QUOTE(kidbazooka1 @ Dec 10 2007, 09:09 PM...   Dec 10 2007, 09:17 PM
- - The C.E.O.   I think Cotto could beat Mayweather 1, maybe 2 tim...   Dec 10 2007, 09:38 PM
|- - JD   QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Dec 10 2007, 09:38 PM)...   Dec 10 2007, 09:41 PM
||- - The Conscience   QUOTE(JD @ Dec 10 2007, 09:41 PM) 369904S...   Dec 10 2007, 09:47 PM
||- - JD   QUOTE(The Conscience @ Dec 10 2007, 09:47...   Dec 10 2007, 10:00 PM
|- - rusty_trombone   QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Dec 10 2007, 09:38 PM)...   Dec 10 2007, 10:33 PM
- - torvix2000   Mayweather has had a lot of tactical boxing educat...   Dec 10 2007, 09:44 PM
- - singletrack   I think Cotto wins a split decision in a controver...   Dec 10 2007, 11:50 PM
- - biggeorge89   If Mayweather fights Cotto, he fights Cotto like h...   Dec 11 2007, 02:07 AM
- - biggeorge89   Cotto is about as fast as Castillo...and Castillo ...   Dec 11 2007, 05:11 AM
|- - BrutalBodyShots   QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 11 2007, 05:11 AM...   Dec 11 2007, 07:15 PM
- - biggeorge89   QUOTE(Fitz @ Dec 11 2007, 10:37 AM) 36995...   Dec 11 2007, 05:45 AM
- - biggeorge89   He went for the kill against Spinks and pretty muc...   Dec 11 2007, 05:59 AM
- - biggeorge89   You can see Cotto-Judah clips in the Cotto highlig...   Dec 11 2007, 06:05 AM
|- - ROLL DEEP   QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 11 2007, 06:05 AM...   Dec 12 2007, 11:21 AM
|- - singletrack   QUOTE(ROLL DEEP @ Dec 12 2007, 11:21 AM) ...   Dec 12 2007, 11:36 AM
- - WolfishPromistah   Like Hatton, what's going to make Floyd's ...   Dec 11 2007, 08:13 AM
|- - JD   QUOTE(WolfishPromistah @ Dec 11 2007, 08...   Dec 11 2007, 08:15 AM
|- - singletrack   QUOTE(WolfishPromistah @ Dec 11 2007, 08...   Dec 12 2007, 11:29 AM
- - The Original MrFactor   I think all of this talk about Cotto/Mayweather is...   Dec 11 2007, 08:36 AM
|- - salvador   QUOTE(The Original MrFactor @ Dec 11 2007, 09...   Dec 12 2007, 10:39 AM
- - falvoa   Lil Floyd should be able to defeat Miguel Cotto. ...   Dec 11 2007, 10:26 AM
- - xxxxxx   The only way Mayweather-Cotto becomes a bigger fig...   Dec 11 2007, 06:10 PM
- - dbdbdb   Honestly ...... Floyd needs & deserves a vacat...   Dec 11 2007, 06:30 PM
- - streetlion1   **NEWS FLASH** FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. IS OVER-RATED...   Dec 12 2007, 10:21 AM
- - Method   I actually think Cotto is more competitive w Floyd...   Dec 12 2007, 11:01 AM
|- - singletrack   QUOTE(Method @ Dec 12 2007, 11:01 AM) 370...   Dec 12 2007, 11:24 AM
- - biggeorge89   QUOTEI totally disagree with this and want to know...   Dec 12 2007, 11:03 AM
- - biggeorge89   Man, it seems to me that alot of people under-esti...   Dec 12 2007, 11:33 AM
- - biggeorge89   Thanks man   Dec 12 2007, 11:52 AM
- - Southeastpaw   I was surprised with Cotto's speed and accurac...   Dec 12 2007, 12:08 PM
- - JD   QUOTE(Southeastpaw @ Dec 12 2007, 12:08 P...   Dec 12 2007, 12:18 PM
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