Dec 9 2007, 04:03 AM
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Lightweight Group: Members Posts: 747 Joined: 10-November 06 Member No.: 5,559 |
It's early to start talking about this fight, but I think it's safe to say this is the fight to make at Welterweight.I know Mayweather wants a break and he deserves it, but now is the time to make these fights when he's still at peak level.If these two superstars fought it could unify the WBC,WBA & RING Titles which would be something neither man has done.Also, Mayweather wouldn't have to work with Golden Boy on this one either.He could get back at Arum for all the negative things he has said about Floyd.Personally, I think Floyd should take this fight in 2008.It would advance his Legacy even further and it's a fight he can win and look good.Cotto has improved, but so has Mayweather over the years.I think Mayweathers defense and skills would take him to a decision victory.Cotto can be hit often if the right gameplan is put in place.I believe Mayweather is still very quick and has the experience advantage over Cotto.This fight would sell and possibly be an instant classic.
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Dec 9 2007, 09:53 AM
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First Ballot Group: Team BU Posts: 18,135 Joined: 8-December 04 From: New York Member No.: 1,262 |
Mayweather beats Cotto and does so easier than he did Hatton in my opinion.
Cotto cannot close the distance like Hatton can, and though whatever Cotto lands will do a lot more damage - he won't land, and he will get hurt. Williams or Margarito are better fights because of their workrate, size and stamina...Williams presents more problems with his reach, height, and boxing ability; Margarito presents more problems with aggression, power and physicality. Skillwise, Cotto is better than Williams or Margarito...but I think the size factor will come into play bigtime. I hope I am wrong, and know I will be pysched if Floyd does fight him, but I have my concerns. |
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Dec 10 2007, 11:31 PM
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Super Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 12-December 06 From: Pittsburgh, PA Member No.: 5,671 |
QUOTE(JD @ Dec 9 2007, 09:53 AM) [snapback]369485[/snapback] Mayweather beats Cotto and does so easier than he did Hatton in my opinion. Cotto cannot close the distance like Hatton can, and though whatever Cotto lands will do a lot more damage - he won't land, and he will get hurt. Williams or Margarito are better fights because of their workrate, size and stamina...Williams presents more problems with his reach, height, and boxing ability; Margarito presents more problems with aggression, power and physicality. Skillwise, Cotto is better than Williams or Margarito...but I think the size factor will come into play bigtime. I hope I am wrong, and know I will be pysched if Floyd does fight him, but I have my concerns. Easier than Hatton is a JOKE of a statement man, and I typically respect your opinion. Hatton RAN in, taking shots with no jab and wild hooks (maybe landed 2 or 3?); comparing him to Cotto is absurd. Of course he gets in quickly - he barely defends himself! PBF will beat Margarito easily IMO - sticking and moving for 12 rounds. Margarito cannot adapt; Floyd can. Williams would be tough for Mayweather, but it will never happen. I heard they sucked the marrow out of his bones so he can make weight <wink wink> I really think Cotto will be one of the greatest Puerto Rican fighters of all time. I've never really said that, but always hoped for it. I think with what I've seen from him to date, and especially lately, he has the opportunity to make it a reality. Honestly though, he could lose to Floyd and STILL be one of the greatest of all time. |
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Dec 11 2007, 07:31 AM
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First Ballot Group: Team BU Posts: 18,135 Joined: 8-December 04 From: New York Member No.: 1,262 |
QUOTE(singletrack @ Dec 10 2007, 11:31 PM) [snapback]369922[/snapback] Easier than Hatton is a JOKE of a statement man, and I typically respect your opinion. Hatton RAN in, taking shots with no jab and wild hooks (maybe landed 2 or 3?); comparing him to Cotto is absurd. Of course he gets in quickly - he barely defends himself! PBF will beat Margarito easily IMO - sticking and moving for 12 rounds. Margarito cannot adapt; Floyd can. Williams would be tough for Mayweather, but it will never happen. I heard they sucked the marrow out of his bones so he can make weight <wink wink> I really think Cotto will be one of the greatest Puerto Rican fighters of all time. I've never really said that, but always hoped for it. I think with what I've seen from him to date, and especially lately, he has the opportunity to make it a reality. Honestly though, he could lose to Floyd and STILL be one of the greatest of all time. Listen man...I will be right there with you...I will have the Don King Puerto Rican flag in hand and all. I just think that this fight is a bad style matchup for Cotto. He is going to have to make his way inside, and he does not have the best foot speed, and if when he is forced to fight Floyd at a measured pace on the outside, he will struggle. In the middle rounds against Malignaggi he had some problems with his boxing, and Paulie is not 1/100th what Floyd is. I am not comparing Cotto to Hatton at all, different styles...different fighters, I just happen to think that Floyd handles Cotto's style without a ton of trouble, especially since Cotto cannot close the distance as quickly. Give me Cotto over Hatton as he times the Hitman coming in, but I dunno about the Floyd fight being all that close - I think it is a bad fight for him. If he lands, than it will be interesting to see Floyd deal...hell, it will be interesting to see Floyd deal with lefthook to the shoulder Gianluca Branco style; I just don't think he stays there long enough, or even at all. |
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Dec 12 2007, 11:35 AM
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Super Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 12-December 06 From: Pittsburgh, PA Member No.: 5,671 |
QUOTE(JD @ Dec 11 2007, 07:31 AM) [snapback]369972[/snapback] Listen man...I will be right there with you...I will have the Don King Puerto Rican flag in hand and all. I just think that this fight is a bad style matchup for Cotto. He is going to have to make his way inside, and he does not have the best foot speed, and if when he is forced to fight Floyd at a measured pace on the outside, he will struggle. In the middle rounds against Malignaggi he had some problems with his boxing, and Paulie is not 1/100th what Floyd is. I am not comparing Cotto to Hatton at all, different styles...different fighters, I just happen to think that Floyd handles Cotto's style without a ton of trouble, especially since Cotto cannot close the distance as quickly. Give me Cotto over Hatton as he times the Hitman coming in, but I dunno about the Floyd fight being all that close - I think it is a bad fight for him. If he lands, than it will be interesting to see Floyd deal...hell, it will be interesting to see Floyd deal with lefthook to the shoulder Gianluca Branco style; I just don't think he stays there long enough, or even at all. Floyd is a bad style matchup for anyone...he's the best fighter in the world. Cotto v. Malignaggi was a learning experience...if you want to see his current boxing, and conditioning, than the Mosley fight is a better indication. He looked like he broke out of a concentration camp pre-Malignaggi. I think he was also surprised and discouraged that he wasn't able to finish Paul off. But Paul is a tough SOB. Look, you said he beats him easier than Hatton. I think that is a joke, because with the exception of a couple of wild hook while running in, Hatton did piss all against Floyd save hugging him. If PBF wins, he will know, and look like, he was in a fight. This isn't just about the inside fight, Cotto WILL land his jab on Floyd and it WILL setup bigger things - straight rights, inside work, etc. Trust me, this is going to be a close fight. |
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Dec 12 2007, 11:59 AM
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First Ballot Group: Team BU Posts: 18,135 Joined: 8-December 04 From: New York Member No.: 1,262 |
QUOTE(singletrack @ Dec 12 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]370127[/snapback] Floyd is a bad style matchup for anyone...he's the best fighter in the world. Cotto v. Malignaggi was a learning experience...if you want to see his current boxing, and conditioning, than the Mosley fight is a better indication. He looked like he broke out of a concentration camp pre-Malignaggi. I think he was also surprised and discouraged that he wasn't able to finish Paul off. But Paul is a tough SOB. Look, you said he beats him easier than Hatton. I think that is a joke, because with the exception of a couple of wild hook while running in, Hatton did piss all against Floyd save hugging him. If PBF wins, he will know, and look like, he was in a fight. This isn't just about the inside fight, Cotto WILL land his jab on Floyd and it WILL setup bigger things - straight rights, inside work, etc. Trust me, this is going to be a close fight. I did say easier than Hatton, due mainly to my concern that Floyd will have an easier time pot shotting because of the footspeed disparity. What makes it all the more crazy is that I think Cotto does have a better chance than Hatton did because if he lands, he will hurt Floyd...but I just don't think he will. And if he gets stuck fighting at a distance because of Floyd's respect for him, and constant movement, than it will be an easier fight for Floyd. No knock on Cotto at all, the dude is extremely skilled and ready and willing to fight anyone - I just think that that fact that Floyd does not have the same type of fighting spirit Mosley did will make this a very hard fight on him. Besides, I am starting to think that we are more likely to see Cotto - Mosley II or Cotto - Margarito. |
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Dec 12 2007, 12:42 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,860 Joined: 20-April 05 From: Chicago Member No.: 2,078 |
QUOTE(JD @ Dec 12 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]370136[/snapback] Besides, I am starting to think that we are more likely to see Cotto - Mosley II or Cotto - Margarito. BS. I can see Cotto's people calling out ODLH, that's simply the smart and easy business decision to make. However, if they can't get Oscar then the only name that should be on Cotto's representative's lips is M A Y W E A T H E R. If Cotto fights anyone other than ODLH or FM then the CEO will need to start a Cotto hatewagon.... |
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Dec 12 2007, 12:56 PM
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First Ballot Group: Team BU Posts: 18,135 Joined: 8-December 04 From: New York Member No.: 1,262 |
QUOTE(Nay_Sayer @ Dec 12 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]370144[/snapback] BS. I can see Cotto's people calling out ODLH, that's simply the smart and easy business decision to make. However, if they can't get Oscar then the only name that should be on Cotto's representative's lips is M A Y W E A T H E R. If Cotto fights anyone other than ODLH or FM then the CEO will need to start a Cotto hatewagon.... You assume that Floyd will want the fight by the middle of next year - which I am not so sure about. Cotto has already come out and said how disappointed he is that Floyd wants to take a vacation - if that fight does not happen in '08, I think we can safely assume that it will not be because Cotto is ducking him; Floyd is bored with the sport and wants a break...those were his exact words. It was clear that Cotto wanted to fight the winner of last Saturday's fight - and it was clear after the event nothing had changed from Cotto's perspective, but Floyd did not seem all that interested. So in short, the name that is on Cotto's representative's lips is M A Y W E A T H E R, I think they just realize that it may not happen. Mosley has now come out and said that he wants the rematch, and I think that if Cotto were to grant it to him, there would be no reason to criticize him for it. The first fight was a damn good scrap, Mosley did better in both of his immediate rematches, and Cotto does not seem like the kind of guy who will shy away from a fight. I don't see how fighting Oscar at this point is any more difficult than fighting Mosley. Either fight should not lead to Cotto being criticized. The Margarito fight comes down to what Arum wants to do, and the last thing that would surprise me is if we see the two of them share a ring. Mosley II, DLH, Mayweather, Margarito...I have no problem with Cotto's camp choosing any of these guys as opponents. |
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xxxxxx Mayweather VS Cotto Dec 9 2007, 04:03 AM
biggeorge89 Hmmm...Cotto will give Floyd fits. Why? Because Co... Dec 9 2007, 05:50 AM
moscow bear QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 11:50 AM)... Dec 9 2007, 09:03 AM
ROLL DEEP This is the only fight I want to see Floyd in.
I... Dec 9 2007, 05:55 AM
snoopnick Cotto will give Mayweather his hardest fight to da... Dec 9 2007, 06:25 AM
The Conscience I think Cotto can beat him. In a fight against Ma... Dec 9 2007, 08:46 AM
salvador Cotto doesn't have the footwork to get inside.... Dec 9 2007, 08:53 AM
biggeorge89 I think Margarito is really too slow for Floyd....... Dec 9 2007, 08:57 AM
xxxxxx QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 09:57 AM)... Dec 9 2007, 12:27 PM
biggeorge89 Can you please show me the post? I honestly dont e... Dec 9 2007, 09:04 AM
Maxy QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 09:04 AM)... Dec 9 2007, 04:11 PM
salvador Yeah, but Margarito is 4 inches taller than Cotto ... Dec 9 2007, 09:04 AM
biggeorge89 Williams is a guy I think Floyd would have fits wi... Dec 9 2007, 09:12 AM
salvador QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 10:12 AM)... Dec 9 2007, 09:20 AM
biggeorge89 I really believe Mayweather will fight Cotto and c... Dec 9 2007, 09:23 AM
salvador QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 10:23 AM)... Dec 9 2007, 09:25 AM
biggeorge89 I think Floyd doesn't have any interest in fig... Dec 9 2007, 09:37 AM
salvador QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 10:37 AM)... Dec 9 2007, 09:45 AM
biggeorge89 IF thats the case then Floyd retires. Dec 9 2007, 09:46 AM
The Conscience QUOTE(JD @ Dec 9 2007, 09:53 AM) 369485Ma... Dec 9 2007, 10:02 AM

JD QUOTE(The Conscience @ Dec 9 2007, 10:02 ... Dec 9 2007, 10:09 AM

The Conscience QUOTE(JD @ Dec 9 2007, 10:09 AM) 369490Co... Dec 9 2007, 10:38 AM

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biggeorge89 Article from boxingscene
After Floyd Mayweath... Dec 9 2007, 10:02 AM
JD QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 10:02 AM)... Dec 9 2007, 10:06 AM
salvador QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 9 2007, 11:02 AM)... Dec 9 2007, 10:10 AM
neophyte7 BE PATIENT COTTO and hope that your face fighting... Dec 9 2007, 10:11 AM
imperial Cotto has the patience to make this a very competi... Dec 9 2007, 11:08 AM
Jack 1000 Mayweather by decision or late stoppage,
Cotto is... Dec 9 2007, 11:47 AM
SpitShineTommy DAAAM....I m still pissed Ricky got beat down by p... Dec 9 2007, 12:02 PM
Jack 1000 QUOTEWhat about PAUL WILLIAMS ???? he might actual... Dec 9 2007, 12:29 PM
BrutalBodyShots I've got Mayweather over Cotto without questio... Dec 9 2007, 01:29 PM
WolfishPromistah If I were Floyd, I'd probably take just two mo... Dec 9 2007, 01:29 PM
X3_Bazooka_X3 according to Lampley Floyd doesnt love boxing anym... Dec 9 2007, 03:11 PM
BrutalBodyShots QUOTE(X3_Bazooka_X3 @ Dec 9 2007, 03:11 P... Dec 9 2007, 03:26 PM
X3_Bazooka_X3 QUOTE(BrutalBodyShots @ Dec 9 2007, 12:26... Dec 9 2007, 03:29 PM
BrutalBodyShots Most of the people that felt Mayweather beat Oscar... Dec 9 2007, 03:44 PM
The Conscience I think too much is being made about Cotto foot wo... Dec 9 2007, 04:06 PM
moscow bear I actually think that Paul Williams has the lowest... Dec 9 2007, 05:19 PM
Lil-lightsout QUOTE(moscow bear @ Dec 9 2007, 05:19 PM)... Dec 9 2007, 06:03 PM
neophyte7 You make a good reference. Even Floyd SR says that... Dec 9 2007, 05:34 PM
dbdbdb In spite of the fact that this is the fight that t... Dec 9 2007, 08:32 PM
BrutalBodyShots A Mosley win for Floyd wouldn't do anything to... Dec 9 2007, 08:52 PM
and the NEW I think Mosley is the man to trouble Floyd, the lo... Dec 10 2007, 12:18 AM
The Ring Dictator QUOTE(and the NEW @ Dec 10 2007, 06:18 AM... Dec 10 2007, 07:02 AM
and the NEW QUOTE(The Ring Dictator @ Dec 10 2007, 12... Dec 10 2007, 07:43 PM
biggeorge89 I think Cotto and Williams are the two guys that w... Dec 10 2007, 07:31 AM
ROLL DEEP Cotto or Mosely for me.
Either of those would be... Dec 10 2007, 08:07 AM
PUERTOROCKS http://youtube.com/watch?v=y3mTLmydh6U Dec 10 2007, 09:35 AM
biggeorge89 ^ I agree. Weather you like PBF or not, you have ... Dec 10 2007, 07:49 PM
and the NEW Mayweather is one of the very best out there, I ha... Dec 10 2007, 08:01 PM
biggeorge89 Yeah. in terms of legacies, there are guys out the... Dec 10 2007, 08:03 PM
and the NEW Most definately. Not to mention, he is the kind o... Dec 10 2007, 08:10 PM
dbdbdb QUOTE(and the NEW @ Dec 10 2007, 07:43 PM... Dec 10 2007, 08:18 PM
and the NEW Yeh, see a guy like Hearns would be the most BRUTA... Dec 10 2007, 08:33 PM
dbdbdb QUOTE(and the NEW @ Dec 10 2007, 08:33 PM... Dec 10 2007, 08:50 PM
The Original MrFactor In this fight, I saw a level of toughness and fero... Dec 10 2007, 09:02 PM
singletrack QUOTE(The Original MrFactor @ Dec 10 2007, 09... Dec 10 2007, 11:42 PM
PR316 I think in terms of PURE TALENT AND SKILL, I would... Dec 10 2007, 09:06 PM
kidbazooka1 The obviouse pick here would be Floyd but I gove C... Dec 10 2007, 09:09 PM
The Conscience QUOTE(kidbazooka1 @ Dec 10 2007, 09:09 PM... Dec 10 2007, 09:17 PM
The C.E.O. I think Cotto could beat Mayweather 1, maybe 2 tim... Dec 10 2007, 09:38 PM
JD QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Dec 10 2007, 09:38 PM)... Dec 10 2007, 09:41 PM

The Conscience QUOTE(JD @ Dec 10 2007, 09:41 PM) 369904S... Dec 10 2007, 09:47 PM

JD QUOTE(The Conscience @ Dec 10 2007, 09:47... Dec 10 2007, 10:00 PM
rusty_trombone QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Dec 10 2007, 09:38 PM)... Dec 10 2007, 10:33 PM
torvix2000 Mayweather has had a lot of tactical boxing educat... Dec 10 2007, 09:44 PM
singletrack I think Cotto wins a split decision in a controver... Dec 10 2007, 11:50 PM
biggeorge89 If Mayweather fights Cotto, he fights Cotto like h... Dec 11 2007, 02:07 AM
biggeorge89 Cotto is about as fast as Castillo...and Castillo ... Dec 11 2007, 05:11 AM
BrutalBodyShots QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 11 2007, 05:11 AM... Dec 11 2007, 07:15 PM
biggeorge89 QUOTE(Fitz @ Dec 11 2007, 10:37 AM) 36995... Dec 11 2007, 05:45 AM
biggeorge89 He went for the kill against Spinks and pretty muc... Dec 11 2007, 05:59 AM
biggeorge89 You can see Cotto-Judah clips in the Cotto highlig... Dec 11 2007, 06:05 AM
ROLL DEEP QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Dec 11 2007, 06:05 AM... Dec 12 2007, 11:21 AM
singletrack QUOTE(ROLL DEEP @ Dec 12 2007, 11:21 AM) ... Dec 12 2007, 11:36 AM
WolfishPromistah Like Hatton, what's going to make Floyd's ... Dec 11 2007, 08:13 AM
JD QUOTE(WolfishPromistah @ Dec 11 2007, 08... Dec 11 2007, 08:15 AM
singletrack QUOTE(WolfishPromistah @ Dec 11 2007, 08... Dec 12 2007, 11:29 AM
The Original MrFactor I think all of this talk about Cotto/Mayweather is... Dec 11 2007, 08:36 AM
salvador QUOTE(The Original MrFactor @ Dec 11 2007, 09... Dec 12 2007, 10:39 AM
falvoa Lil Floyd should be able to defeat Miguel Cotto.
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xxxxxx The only way Mayweather-Cotto becomes a bigger fig... Dec 11 2007, 06:10 PM
dbdbdb Honestly ...... Floyd needs & deserves a vacat... Dec 11 2007, 06:30 PM
streetlion1 **NEWS FLASH**
FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. IS OVER-RATED... Dec 12 2007, 10:21 AM
Method I actually think Cotto is more competitive w Floyd... Dec 12 2007, 11:01 AM
singletrack QUOTE(Method @ Dec 12 2007, 11:01 AM) 370... Dec 12 2007, 11:24 AM
biggeorge89 QUOTEI totally disagree with this and want to know... Dec 12 2007, 11:03 AM
biggeorge89 Man, it seems to me that alot of people under-esti... Dec 12 2007, 11:33 AM
biggeorge89 Thanks man Dec 12 2007, 11:52 AM
Southeastpaw I was surprised with Cotto's speed and accurac... Dec 12 2007, 12:08 PM
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