Jan 4 2008, 10:56 AM
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Hopkins-Calzaghe in Vegas on April 12th?
"I believe the date the 11th or the 12th of April. I know I'm just looking to make it happen. I don't believe anything is signed yet. I got a letter from Arnold Joseph and Richard Schaeffer saying that we have an oral agreement. I could say oral agreements have stood up for the last five years of my career. They expressed to me that we have a deal and I'm expecting an official confirmation on that no later than Monday. I was hoping to hear something yesterday or today, but I'm expecting things to be wrapped up the middle of next week the latest," stated light heavyweight king Bernard Hopkins in a recent interview. Hopkins revealed that the fight would likely take place in Las Vegas at the Mandalay Bay or the MGM Grand and he hopes that HBO will be willing to do another 24/7 series for the fight. "I think maybe with a 24/7 if everybody is willing to pitch in, that's HBO, Golden Boy and Frank Warren, if they're willing to pitch in because that ain't free, but I think it would do everybody justice, not only in our bank accounts, but I think the fans will get to see the behind the scenes back and forth that goes on with the game. Again, this ain't a salespitch to convince anybody, I'm just saying that this is one of them kind of fights where I think 24/7 is needed to uplift what's already there. Coming off the heels of the big blockbuster that happened on December 8 one month later, I think it would be great." Hopkins also revealed that he's been training lightly for the past two or three months, but he's planning on beginning serious training for the fight in about two or three weeks. Along with Brother Nasseem and Freddie Roach, Hopkins is considering reuniting with Mackie Shillstone. "I didn't use him for the Winky Wright for one reason or the other, but for this fight I see that his biggest weapon is punches in bunches and trust me, from what I've experienced with the Tarver fight with Mackie Shilstone, he got me to the point where I was throwing so many punches per round that it was unbelievable." When asked whether or not Calzaghe would be one of the toughest southpaws he's ever faced, Hopkins emphatically stated, "Oh, No. No. No. Absolutely not. The best southpaw I ever fought in terms of being tricky is John David Jackson." In fact, Hopkins went so far as to say that Calzaghe was at the bottom of the list of southpaws he's faced, behind the likes of Robert Allen, Antonio Tarver and Winky Wright. |
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Jan 5 2008, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE IMO Kessler at 168 is better than Winky at 170, Oscar and Tito at 160 and also Tarver at 175. I disagree. IMO, Winky, Oscar AND Tito are all better fighters, skill-wise, than Kessler. The one advantage Kessler probably enjoys over them all, at 168, is punching power. But I would say Winky and Oscar are more complete fighters, hell maybe even Tito., and that P4P Tito is the mure pure puncher. That said, Kessler was done after 6-7 rounds. He had nothing left in the gas tank, something none of the aforementioned three have ever been in their respective primes or in their comfort zones. What's more, his foot movement and balance were for shit. He stood stright up and down, and most times square. Like you said, time will tell. Styles make fights, and that is the only thing, at this point in Hopkins' career, that keeps Joe in the game. Cause boxingwise, skill set for skill set, Joe Calzage does not do ANYTHING better than Bernard Hopkins. The only reason Joe gets a "W" at this point, and it is definitely possible, is if he just "out actives" Bernard. We've already seen with the Taylor fights, that the judges will award inneffective aggression if you are the fighter perceived to have more money in you for the industry to squeeze out, so it is distinctly possible that we could see Joe awarded a victory for those wack ass wining 5-7 punch hook-to-the body flurries that we saw versus Kessler. Very possible. But on the other side of that fucking coin, this is Bernard Hopkins we're talking about here. When the fuck has ANYBODY landed that kind of shit 5-7 times in a row? Roy Jones wasn't landing any of that shit and Roy was at LEAST...at LEAST as fast, and much more of an ackward guy and better fighter at the time he and Bernard fought. I can envision Hopkins smothering, tieing up, and roughing up Joe all night long. I could imagine a stinker of a fight to the common guy too.. I can see Hopkins winning a decicion. I could also see Hopkins losing a decision in a fight where he comes out unmarked too. Who knows. We'll see. At a current +180, I laid down some money on Bernard. If that number increases to make Hopkins a bigger underdog, which I doubt - ESPECIALLY as he talks leading up to the fight and people see and hear him - then I will lay some more on him. If that number comes in, I may lay some on Joe. I favor Hopkins to win this fight. I just think he has the more complete game. That does not mean he wins. |
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easywork Hopkins-Calzaghe official? (In Vegas April 12?) Jan 4 2008, 10:56 AM
PR316 Well I guess we'll see. Hopkins is very confid... Jan 4 2008, 02:37 PM
BoxingStill#1 Biggest fight of the 08' year,.....I can't... Jan 4 2008, 07:54 PM
biggeorge89 I still cant believe people think this is such a w... Jan 4 2008, 11:19 PM
Blayde QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Jan 5 2008, 05:19 AM)... Jan 5 2008, 10:30 AM

streetlion1 QUOTE(Blayde @ Jan 5 2008, 09:30 AM) 3734... Jan 5 2008, 03:18 PM
PR316 QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Jan 5 2008, 04:19 AM)... Jan 5 2008, 07:45 PM
salvador QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Jan 5 2008, 12:19 AM)... Jan 7 2008, 06:14 PM
Method QUOTEI dont expect Calzgahe to hit Hopkins clean w... Jan 5 2008, 08:29 AM
Blayde I just dont get why Oscar and Tito are seen as suc... Jan 5 2008, 12:55 PM
Future_Champ QUOTE(Blayde @ Jan 5 2008, 12:55 PM) 3734... Jan 5 2008, 02:51 PM
biggeorge89 To be honest, I dont think Kessler is any better t... Jan 5 2008, 03:10 PM
Blayde Hater, LOL, no I guess you are wrong about that. I... Jan 5 2008, 03:37 PM
damarvelous1 QUOTE(Blayde @ Jan 5 2008, 03:37 PM) 3735... Jan 5 2008, 04:13 PM
Southeastpaw As much as I cannot stand Calzaghe, he is a physic... Jan 5 2008, 04:21 PM
Mixnutz The key to Hopkins success in his later years has ... Jan 5 2008, 05:36 PM
Maxy Blayde makes good points in his posts. Hopkins is... Jan 5 2008, 06:07 PM
biggeorge89 I don't think Hopkins looked terrible in the W... Jan 5 2008, 07:53 PM
PR316 QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Jan 6 2008, 12:53 AM)... Jan 5 2008, 10:40 PM
biggeorge89 Fitz, i dont think Tarver is great at all but I... Jan 5 2008, 09:29 PM
Method Calzghe's jab landing early and often? OK. T... Jan 6 2008, 06:23 PM
PR316 I recall Taylor landing his jab in the 2nd fight a... Jan 7 2008, 08:43 AM
Method QUOTEThat being said, being offensive is not Hopki... Jan 7 2008, 09:33 AM
PR316 QUOTE(Method @ Jan 7 2008, 02:33 PM) 3738... Jan 7 2008, 12:31 PM
buford54 QUOTE(PR316 @ Jan 7 2008, 12:31 PM) 37384... Jan 7 2008, 01:01 PM
Elijah I think Hopkins is gonna be more motivated for thi... Jan 7 2008, 12:09 PM
Elijah I'm not so sure about Hopkins not having the p... Jan 7 2008, 12:39 PM
PR316 QUOTE(Elijah @ Jan 7 2008, 05:39 PM) 3738... Jan 7 2008, 12:51 PM
Elijah I don't think you can compare Kessler to Hopki... Jan 7 2008, 12:59 PM
PR316 QUOTE(Elijah @ Jan 7 2008, 05:59 PM) 3738... Jan 7 2008, 08:44 PM
BrutalBodyShots QUOTE(PR316 @ Jan 7 2008, 08:44 PM) 37391... Jan 7 2008, 11:08 PM
Method QUOTEI don't think you can compare Kessler to ... Jan 7 2008, 01:07 PM
PrfPmp I was bored yesterday so decided to watch Winky-Ho... Jan 7 2008, 01:41 PM
rusty_trombone I still like Zags to win a decision here, I expect... Jan 7 2008, 09:23 PM
imperial I also like Calzaghe based on workrate ..But if Ho... Jan 7 2008, 10:46 PM
Imperius3 It's not guaranteed Calzaghe will land more th... Jan 8 2008, 07:36 AM
Method QUOTEIn terms of SKILL.... Your right. But Kessler... Jan 8 2008, 08:44 AM
PR316 ^^^^ Kessler is a legitimate puncher at 168 having... Jan 8 2008, 10:49 AM
Southeastpaw Not so sure this Hopkins would even beat Kessler l... Jan 8 2008, 11:28 PM
Fitz I kind of get the feeling that people are showing ... Jan 8 2008, 11:37 PM
Fitz QUOTE(Southeastpaw @ Jan 9 2008, 03:28 PM... Jan 8 2008, 11:38 PM
biggeorge89 Kessler beat Hopkins? LOL.
Kessler might be more ... Jan 8 2008, 11:45 PM
Method QUOTEKessler is much more sound than a Taylor and ... Jan 9 2008, 05:53 AM
Fitz I think it was Calazghe's work rate that cost ... Jan 9 2008, 06:33 AM
biggeorge89 Well, I don't think Glen is great. He is a tou... Jan 9 2008, 06:38 AM
Blayde QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Jan 9 2008, 12:38 PM)... Jan 9 2008, 12:18 PM
PR316 I honestly think that if Milkdud ever found the ba... Jan 9 2008, 10:42 AM
Southeastpaw QUOTE(PR316 @ Jan 9 2008, 10:42 AM) 37407... Jan 9 2008, 10:55 AM
Fitz QUOTE(Southeastpaw @ Jan 10 2008, 02:55 A... Jan 9 2008, 10:59 AM
biggeorge89 QUOTE(Southeastpaw @ Jan 9 2008, 03:55 PM... Jan 9 2008, 05:12 PM
PR316 ^^^^ I'm was never too high on Tarver. He los... Jan 9 2008, 05:28 PM
biggeorge89 QUOTEJones. Only the fact that Roy became complace... Jan 9 2008, 05:34 PM
Big Slim QUOTE(Southeastpaw @ Jan 9 2008, 11:55 AM... Jan 9 2008, 05:40 PM
Method You're absolutely CORRECT, Big Slim, Tarver NE... Jan 9 2008, 06:04 PM
CyruS I'll just keep it short and simple, Hopkins W ... Jan 9 2008, 06:30 PM
Fitz Tarver didn't even want a piece of Danny Green... Jan 9 2008, 08:54 PM
Bill The Butcher Calzaghe is a southpaw. Jan 10 2008, 12:32 AM
Method QUOTETarver didn't even want a piece of Danny ... Jan 10 2008, 06:33 AM
Fitz Yep, and he still wanted no part of a natural 168 ... Jan 10 2008, 07:11 AM
biggeorge89 Again, I'm not the biggest Tarver fan..in fact... Jan 10 2008, 08:01 AM
Blayde And Tarver struggled against Muriqi, LOL.
I can u... Jan 10 2008, 08:50 AM
Method Oh, Im not talking about the Tarver that fought Me... Jan 10 2008, 01:13 PM
Nobudius This thread should be retitled: Hopkins-Calzaghe i... Jan 10 2008, 03:15 PM
Method I dind't say anything about deep waters (not s... Jan 10 2008, 03:22 PM
Nobudius The "deep waters" comment is actually in... Jan 10 2008, 04:06 PM
Method Absolutely. Before the first bout, he likened it ... Jan 10 2008, 04:28 PM
Fitz Fightnews:
QUOTEWarren: Calzaghe-Hopkins done... Jan 13 2008, 05:38 AM
Method These are the same stories that have been saying f... Jan 13 2008, 01:18 PM
Byrd Man Just saw this on the front page of Boxingtalk. I ... Jan 20 2008, 05:22 PM
stateofthegame The funny thing is that Dan Rafeal announced on Fr... Jan 20 2008, 05:43 PM
xxxxxx I'm hoping X beats Joe as bad as Mayweather be... Jan 21 2008, 01:38 PM
buford54 I was worried about X's stamina too until I sa... Jan 21 2008, 02:17 PM
E.C.LEGEND QUOTE(buford54 @ Jan 21 2008, 03:17 PM) 3... Jan 22 2008, 03:34 AM
rusty_trombone QUOTE(E.C.LEGEND @ Jan 22 2008, 03:34 AM)... Jan 22 2008, 09:20 AM
biggeorge89 I just watched Calzaghe-Kessler, and I dont know, ... Jan 22 2008, 05:56 AM
The Original MrFactor QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Jan 22 2008, 05:56 AM... Jan 22 2008, 06:29 AM
streetlion1 Yep its on now!!!! Another over-ra... Jan 22 2008, 11:12 AM
rusty_trombone QUOTE(streetlion1 @ Jan 22 2008, 11:12 AM... Jan 22 2008, 05:43 PM

streetlion1 QUOTE(rusty_trombone @ Jan 22 2008, 04:43... Jan 23 2008, 01:53 AM
PR316 QUOTE(streetlion1 @ Jan 22 2008, 04:12 PM... Jan 23 2008, 10:19 AM
streetlion1 QUOTE(PR316 @ Jan 23 2008, 09:19 AM) 3761... Jan 23 2008, 12:19 PM
PR316 Yeah but Hopkins will have to pull the trigger con... Jan 23 2008, 01:19 PM
streetlion1 QUOTE(PR316 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:19 PM) 3761... Jan 23 2008, 01:28 PM
PR316 Its possible. I've counted Hopkins out before(... Jan 23 2008, 02:30 PM![]() ![]() |
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