Apr 3 2008, 12:19 PM
Group: Root Admin
Joined: 20-October 00
Member No.: 2
Quite frankly, the weekly and monthly THREATS have really been annoying, but bringing my kids into it has crossed the line from being just business to being personal.
So that said, without further ado, I bring you the Monkey Business of Boxingtalk...where fans are monkeys, paying members are monkeys, employees are monkeys, fighters are monkeys...basically everyone is a monkey.
"My attorney will be following up with a letter instructing you to cease and desist from posting BoxingTalk.com's copy-righted paid for members only material on your free message board. Copies will be emailed and mailed to your address momentarily. Is there a lawyer he should send this letter to?" - G. Leon to Hype
"I honestly never wanted to go down this path with you out of respect for your children, but acting as you have it's obvious you care more about starting trouble than you do about them." - G. Leon to Hype
"You and your boarders can say whatever you want about me, I laugh that stuff off, matter fact it makes me work harder." - G. Leon to Hype
Much, much more to follow...
Apr 8 2008, 11:31 PM
Group: Root Admin
Joined: 20-October 00
Member No.: 2
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:59:30 +0000
Wow, yes I forwarded a private email to Greg of yours and I apologized more than once for doing that to you. It's one thing to not except the apology, I can live with that, because it was my fuck up for sure. But what you have done to me by posting my private emails to Greg on a message board that thousands will read far exceeds what I did to you. You are 100 times the asshole that I will ever be for doing that to me. Your rift between Leon and yourself is yours, not mine.
Let this be fair warning...if ANYONE gainfully employed by Greg Leon is planning on sending me an email bitching and crying about something that I did, you can expect to see that email posted here on OUR message board because, quite frankly, I enjoy sharing things with the "30 monkeys" who post here.
Okay, that being said, payback's a bitch, isn't it Bradley.
Look, I'm sorry you feel upset about your "private emails to Greg" being posted, but let's just keep it real. How can those emails be "private" if I was being copied on all of them? In fact, you KNEW I was being copied on them. Let me refresh your memory...
I don't know...call me crazy, but if those emails were intended to be private between you and Leon, then I'd probably be a little upset with Leon for sending them to me in the first place. But whatever. So I replied to your email...
Date: 2006/12/20 Wed PM 6:21:41 EST
I don't expect a reply from you, in fact I would be surprised if I got one.
With that said, I see your fearless leaders is CCing all of his lovely, and
professional emails to me, to you. I have no hard feelings towards you at all,
but as you can see by Greg Leon's arrogance that things have soured with me and
ole G. I decided to leave Boxingtalk for numerous reasons, none of which had
anything to do with you, so again no hard feelings. I have been asking Greg Leon
for literally MONTHS for my tapes back, and all I have gotten in response is
emails littered with insults, and arrogance from the guy. Boxingtalk is a
popular site, nobody can doubt that, but for me? integrity is more important
than popularity. Good luck to you Ben, again no hard feelings.
Date: 2006/12/20 Wed PM 10:19:41 EST
No hard feelings with me...although you're a bit mistaken...he's hardly my
leader. Whatever issues Greg has with others, those are his to deal with. I keep
his personal business separated from mine. You're not the first person that Greg
has butted heads with and I'm sure you won't be the last, but that has nothing
to do with me so hopefully we can stay in contact. Good luck with everything.
Hope to keep getting updates about you and your work through MySpace.
So as we both already know, your "private emails to Greg" weren't private at all. In fact, you even went so far as to forward those "private emails" to everyone on the boxingtalk staff, including Jeff Young, Percy Crawford, Darren Nichols, James Alden and several others. In fact, that's what prompted Alden's departure from boxingtalk, and ultimately from boxing for good. Don't remember? Oh...don't worry...I got ya covered...
>>> <firstname.lastname@example.org> 12/11/06 9:46 AM >>>
To the Boxingtalk team, I have resigned from Boxingtalk. I asked for a little
compensation for all of my hard work and efforts, and here's the response that I
got from G Leon concerning my resignation letter. You can be the judge for
yourself. I for one no longer will put my time and effort into a site that
generates the kind of money that Leon is making, and not be compensated fairly.
Good luck to all of you.
Of course, I spared us the rest of that email because we've already seen them, but Bradley, please don't cry me a river over some emails that you claim to be "private" when you willingly sent those same emails out to the public to begin with. If anything, you should be happy that I only posted them over here for our "30 monkeys" to see as opposed to posting it over at Pacland where, for some reason unbeknownst to me, you're worshipped like a god. I'm quite sure they would be disappointed to know that someone who claims to be so high on integrity...someone who once said "there will be no coming back"...folded faster than a cheap lawn chair for just $10/interview. What was it that you said:
"Here's another rock of reality I'll throw, all of the money in the world doesn't make up for integrity Greg."
"Greg you have a popular website, and you make good money, but I would trade all of that to preserve my integrity."
Pffffft. Pretty sad that just $10/interview is all it took to make you start singing a different tune.
But look...you're right...my beef isn't with you, it's with Leon. If you can just put your initial reaction aside and actually take the time to see what I'm doing, you might realize that, although it might be a little at your expense, I'm trying to show EVERYONE exactly how your boy treats those people who work so diligently for him. I mean, it wasn't that long ago when you were saying the exact same thing. If he's treating the people who "grind" for him like that, surely you've GOT to be just a little concerned about how he might be treating some of the fighters he now "advises" or those he might "advise" in the future...unless, of course, you really aren't concerned with some of the problems in the sport...and if you're not, then I'd have to say that YOU are the one who's 100 times the asshole than me.
But hey...whatever. If you can go to bed at night knowing that you "grind" for someone who called you a "disloyal journalism degreeless website hopper" and shit on you as bad as he did, then hey, I'm not going to lose any sleep over posting some emails that you yourself first shot off to the entire boxingtalk staff. Next time you speak to Leon, tell him you've got another word he can add to his list of names for you....SELLOUT!
Speaking of words, if you do talk to him (assuming he has enough time in his busy schedule to speak with you), please, please, please tell him to quit throwing that word "nigga" around...it's extremely insulting...especially considering what you know about him and how he treats people. I mean, Ishe...come on...are you really his "nigga"? I mean, maybe you are...but are you really? Man, it's just so refreshing to see someone like Obama out there...and yet, there's still some of us who think it's "cool" to allow whatever the hell Leon is claiming to be, whether it's his race or his title of "advisor" or "president", to call us "nigga". Call me crazy, but something just doesn't seem right with that. To be honest, as freely and loudly as he throws the word around, I'm not so sure I'd want to do business with him if I were a major company. In the wrong place and at the wrong time, he could be construed as a racist. It's definitely not cool to be associated with a racist.
Okay, okay, okay...I'm trippin'...just typing out loud....I'm getting waaaaay off track so I'm done preaching now.
Oh, and for the record, it's pretty sad to see you cats over there working so hard for someone that I know none of you really like. Throughout the years, I've heard you all bitch, cry and complain about him on a consistent basis (some just days ago) and yet, I always tried to help each and every one of you out as much as possible...stood by all of you, fought for some of you and told you things that I probably shouldn't have in order to help you squeeze a little blood out of that turnip Leon....only to see you turn around and email said information to the one person who didn't need to see it. Pfffffft. After doing that, you really think I care if you think I'm an asshole?
Like I said, just be glad I didn't post it on Pacland...after all, that's what your boss would've done. Oh wait...my bad...he would've just posted it on his front page.
Remember where you heard it first...or second...or third...shit, you've been preachin' it yourself for years so don't be mad at me now just because I'm co-signing what you were trying to tell all of the boxingtalk staff years ago.
Now quit reading our message board...Leon is going to be pissed knowing you were wasting precious time with us monkeys when you could have been bangin' out a hot exclusive.
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