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post Nov 18 2008, 11:35 AM
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Does MMA have anything on this?


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post Nov 18 2008, 08:11 PM
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I'll admit to some bias here James toney is my favourite fighter, period.

When I think of his era I think of him, Roy and Nard, probably because they all fought around the same weight classes for a while.

He had the speed and power of Roy and the defensive powess, ring smarts and heart of Nard.

Out those 3 I truly believe he had the best skill set. His career is a tragedy in that there were definately times when he went missing during fights and definately times when he went missing in between fight, the guy never saw a Burger King he didn't like.

I would call him a Judah type fighter full of potential and 'what if's' but he is on a far superior level to anything Judah ever achieved.

When it's all said and done fans will say that James only acheived about 50% of what he should've achieved, but he still managed to win world titles in 3 (almost 4) weight classes, won the Ring magazine fighter of the year twice and I believe was most people's p4p just before the Jones jnr fight.

It frightens me to think what he could have accomplished if he had really dedicated himself.

When James was in the zone he had such a crowd pleasing style, although like Bernard he was very defensively savvy unlike Bernard he was much more prepared to stand right in the pocket and trade with guys, and right up to 190 pounds he had good power.

Man if he had managed to keep his weight off HE could've been the one stepping into the ring with cal-Slappy whose slappy style I think would've been tailor made for James.

Still at least I've got this fight of James taking out some eurotrash (actually I give Jirov his props for the punishment he took in this one) and a fine example of how when boxing's good, it's the best.

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post Nov 18 2008, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(the ollie reed fan club @ Nov 18 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]411773[/snapback]
I'll admit to some bias here James toney is my favourite fighter, period.

When I think of his era I think of him, Roy and Nard, probably because they all fought around the same weight classes for a while.

He had the speed and power of Roy and the defensive powess, ring smarts and heart of Nard.

Out those 3 I truly believe he had the best skill set. His career is a tragedy in that there were definately times when he went missing during fights and definately times when he went missing in between fight, the guy never saw a Burger King he didn't like.

I would call him a Judah type fighter full of potential and 'what if's' but he is on a far superior level to anything Judah ever achieved.

When it's all said and done fans will say that James only acheived about 50% of what he should've achieved, but he still managed to win world titles in 3 (almost 4) weight classes, won the Ring magazine fighter of the year twice and I believe was most people's p4p just before the Jones jnr fight.

It frightens me to think what he could have accomplished if he had really dedicated himself.

When James was in the zone he had such a crowd pleasing style, although like Bernard he was very defensively savvy unlike Bernard he was much more prepared to stand right in the pocket and trade with guys, and right up to 190 pounds he had good power.

Man if he had managed to keep his weight off HE could've been the one stepping into the ring with cal-Slappy whose slappy style I think would've been tailor made for James.

Still at least I've got this fight of James taking out some eurotrash (actually I give Jirov his props for the punishment he took in this one) and a fine example of how when boxing's good, it's the best.


Nice post. He is easily my favorite fighter ever too. I get very frustrated just imagining even more he could have accomplished if he had the eating and training habits of say a Mayweather or Hopkins. Talking the greatest of all time.
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- damarvelous1   Seriously...   Nov 18 2008, 11:35 AM
- - The C.E.O.   Bonnar-Griffin I is better.....lol On the real......   Nov 18 2008, 11:43 AM
|- - damarvelous1   QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Nov 18 2008, 11:43 AM)...   Nov 18 2008, 11:44 AM
- - PUERTOROCKS   Smoger is the best Ref in the Buisness no joke. H...   Nov 18 2008, 12:39 PM
- - Al Hata   Love it.   Nov 18 2008, 12:56 PM
- - biggeorge89   You have to give Jirov almighty props for balls......   Nov 18 2008, 12:56 PM
|- - rusty_trombone   QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Nov 18 2008, 12:56 PM...   Nov 18 2008, 06:40 PM
|- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE(rusty_trombone @ Nov 18 2008, 11:40...   Nov 18 2008, 06:56 PM
|- - BrutalBodyShots   One thing the commentators don't even mention ...   Nov 18 2008, 07:04 PM
|- - damarvelous1   QUOTE(BrutalBodyShots @ Nov 18 2008, 07:0...   Nov 18 2008, 09:04 PM
- - Big Slim   Awesome fight. Awesome finish. Obviously this is b...   Nov 18 2008, 01:00 PM
- - Big Slim   Also wanted to say, it would have been fascinating...   Nov 18 2008, 01:04 PM
- - pcraw   The only problem is for every Jirov/Toney fight we...   Nov 18 2008, 01:38 PM
|- - damarvelous1   QUOTE(pcraw @ Nov 18 2008, 01:38 PM) 4116...   Nov 18 2008, 04:08 PM
|- - pcraw   QUOTE(damarvelous1 @ Nov 18 2008, 04:08 P...   Nov 18 2008, 04:45 PM
|- - damarvelous1   QUOTEI love the scientific fighters in boxing like...   Nov 18 2008, 05:11 PM
||- - pcraw   QUOTE(damarvelous1 @ Nov 18 2008, 05:11 P...   Nov 18 2008, 05:44 PM
||- - damarvelous1   QUOTE(pcraw @ Nov 18 2008, 05:44 PM) 4117...   Nov 18 2008, 05:55 PM
|- - thisneverworks   QUOTE(pcraw @ Nov 18 2008, 05:45 PM) 4117...   Nov 18 2008, 05:14 PM
- - The Conscience   I just like skilled punching........In MMA you rar...   Nov 18 2008, 05:16 PM
- - pcraw   True, true, true! Lol! Yeah, I just wonder...   Nov 18 2008, 06:19 PM
|- - damarvelous1   QUOTE(pcraw @ Nov 18 2008, 06:19 PM) 4117...   Nov 18 2008, 09:00 PM
- - the ollie reed fan club   I'll admit to some bias here James toney is my...   Nov 18 2008, 08:11 PM
|- - Lil-lightsout   QUOTE(the ollie reed fan club @ Nov 18 2008, ...   Nov 18 2008, 10:19 PM
- - damarvelous1   And to go with that "classic" fight is a...   Nov 18 2008, 09:07 PM
- - the ollie reed fan club   Jim Lampley looked like he was gonna pee his pants...   Nov 18 2008, 09:32 PM
- - The C.E.O.   I would LOVE to play Madden against Toney....heads...   Nov 18 2008, 09:44 PM
|- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Nov 19 2008, 02:44 AM)...   Nov 18 2008, 11:22 PM
- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE(damarvelous1 @ Nov 18 2008, 12:35 P...   Nov 18 2008, 11:27 PM


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