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post Nov 18 2008, 08:11 PM
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I'll admit to some bias here James toney is my favourite fighter, period.

When I think of his era I think of him, Roy and Nard, probably because they all fought around the same weight classes for a while.

He had the speed and power of Roy and the defensive powess, ring smarts and heart of Nard.

Out those 3 I truly believe he had the best skill set. His career is a tragedy in that there were definately times when he went missing during fights and definately times when he went missing in between fight, the guy never saw a Burger King he didn't like.

I would call him a Judah type fighter full of potential and 'what if's' but he is on a far superior level to anything Judah ever achieved.

When it's all said and done fans will say that James only acheived about 50% of what he should've achieved, but he still managed to win world titles in 3 (almost 4) weight classes, won the Ring magazine fighter of the year twice and I believe was most people's p4p just before the Jones jnr fight.

It frightens me to think what he could have accomplished if he had really dedicated himself.

When James was in the zone he had such a crowd pleasing style, although like Bernard he was very defensively savvy unlike Bernard he was much more prepared to stand right in the pocket and trade with guys, and right up to 190 pounds he had good power.

Man if he had managed to keep his weight off HE could've been the one stepping into the ring with cal-Slappy whose slappy style I think would've been tailor made for James.

Still at least I've got this fight of James taking out some eurotrash (actually I give Jirov his props for the punishment he took in this one) and a fine example of how when boxing's good, it's the best.

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post Nov 18 2008, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(pcraw @ Nov 18 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]411754[/snapback]
True, true, true! Lol! Yeah, I just wonder how the Hagler's and the Holmes' feel about the sport today, you know?

Hagler wouldn't put up with that sh*t! He still be a warrior. He would be how Glen Johnson is now except he be knockin dudes the f*ck out!

Holmes.. I can see him going for the dollars... But then again he would dominate the Heavyweight division if he were to fight today! (prime)

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post Nov 18 2008, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(BrutalBodyShots @ Nov 18 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]411768[/snapback]
One thing the commentators don't even mention is the money punch that Toney landed that actually did Jirov in. Sure Jirov was lit up and dazed by 4-5 left hooks and a right hand to start things off... but it was that left to the body that totally took away Jirov's legs and allowed Toney to put him down. He threw that body shot at just the right time since Jirov was pawing with the right.

YESSIR!!!!

That body shot was a thing of beauty!
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post Nov 18 2008, 09:07 PM
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And to go with that "classic" fight is a "classic" interview... Despite Jim Lampley being a total doofus!


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post Nov 18 2008, 09:32 PM
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Jim Lampley looked like he was gonna pee his pants.

I love that interview. James has said the funniest things down the years amongst them, "I'm the king of John Madden.' Classic alright.
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post Nov 18 2008, 09:44 PM
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I would LOVE to play Madden against Toney....headsets on and everything....he'd probably whoop my ass 'cause I'm not the best at it...but the shit talking would be EPIC.

I'd tell him he looks like a meatball with feet....tell him he was shaped like a stepmother...all kinds of shit he's never heard before....I KNOW I could make him laugh...

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post Nov 18 2008, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(the ollie reed fan club @ Nov 18 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]411773[/snapback]
I'll admit to some bias here James toney is my favourite fighter, period.

When I think of his era I think of him, Roy and Nard, probably because they all fought around the same weight classes for a while.

He had the speed and power of Roy and the defensive powess, ring smarts and heart of Nard.

Out those 3 I truly believe he had the best skill set. His career is a tragedy in that there were definately times when he went missing during fights and definately times when he went missing in between fight, the guy never saw a Burger King he didn't like.

I would call him a Judah type fighter full of potential and 'what if's' but he is on a far superior level to anything Judah ever achieved.

When it's all said and done fans will say that James only acheived about 50% of what he should've achieved, but he still managed to win world titles in 3 (almost 4) weight classes, won the Ring magazine fighter of the year twice and I believe was most people's p4p just before the Jones jnr fight.

It frightens me to think what he could have accomplished if he had really dedicated himself.

When James was in the zone he had such a crowd pleasing style, although like Bernard he was very defensively savvy unlike Bernard he was much more prepared to stand right in the pocket and trade with guys, and right up to 190 pounds he had good power.

Man if he had managed to keep his weight off HE could've been the one stepping into the ring with cal-Slappy whose slappy style I think would've been tailor made for James.

Still at least I've got this fight of James taking out some eurotrash (actually I give Jirov his props for the punishment he took in this one) and a fine example of how when boxing's good, it's the best.


Nice post. He is easily my favorite fighter ever too. I get very frustrated just imagining even more he could have accomplished if he had the eating and training habits of say a Mayweather or Hopkins. Talking the greatest of all time.
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post Nov 18 2008, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Nov 19 2008, 02:44 AM) [snapback]411796[/snapback]
I'd tell him he looks like a meatball with feet....tell him he was shaped like a stepmother...all kinds of shit he's never heard before....I KNOW I could make him laugh...


Or make him get his "gun" out of his gym bag.
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post Nov 18 2008, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(damarvelous1 @ Nov 18 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]411663[/snapback]
Does MMA have anything on this?

NO
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