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post Feb 5 2009, 02:48 PM
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Since the Moore vs Jones thread has become a debate about weightlifting, well at least some of it, I thought it would be a good idea to just start a forum about training/boxing exercises. I usually go on another board for that but a lot of the posters are douches. Since it seems like many of the posters have experience in it and enjoy discussing it, why don't we? Thoughts?
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post Feb 6 2009, 04:55 PM
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Great idea for the new forum! I posted about it on the main page of the Rules/Suggestions thread. We are seeing more users who are very interested in training, diet, conditioning, and anything that may help supplement their health.The best advice is to consult with your physician or health-care professional(s) for the proper regiments that are unique to you.

I have also been interested in learning about natural health care supplements that our community may use in training. What has worked, what hasn't.

ONE RULE THAT REALLY MUST APPLY TO THE FORUM. PLEASE DO NOT URL LINK TO ANY SITES THAT SOLICIT HEALTH CARE PRODUCTS OR SERVICES. THERE IS NO WAY OF KNOWING THE LEGITIMACY OF THE CLAIMS MADE BY THE SITE PROMOTING THE PRODUCTS OR SERVICES AND WE DON'T WANT SPAMMY HEALTH-CARE ADVERTISING IN THIS FORUM!

This forum is for users to discuss their experiences and results with BOXING, MMA, NUTRITION and WEIGHT CONDITIONING PROCEDURES for our community. Please do not advertise or solicit products by linking to them in this section.

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post Feb 6 2009, 05:34 PM
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The general idea behind the weight training aspect involved in boxing is to develop the fast twitch muscles, and rather than build muscle mass, you simply need to retain muscle mass and lose body fat. Essentially you want as much of your body weight as possible to be muscle as long as you stay in a healthy distance your desired fighting weight. Example, most welterweight fighters walk around at an in shape, lean 160 pounds or so, and then gradually lose the extra weight in the few months leading up to the weigh-in.

In order to achieve the aforementioned results, a regular workout for a boxer should be cardio-intense with high reps and little rest between sets. Supersets are also very good, this is where two workouts are performed consecutively in order to comlete one set, exmaple: do a set of pushups/chest exercise immediately followed with a set of pullups/back exercise, then rest for 60 seconds and repeat 3 times. 50 percent of the workout should be resistance/strength training at an intense pace, and the other 50 percent should be strictly cardio. It is important when doing cardio to do something different each day. One day just jog 3 miles or so, the next day do sets of sprints, the next do sets of running up-hill. This way your fast twitch muscles will develop explosiveness with the sprints and up-hill runs and your overall endurance will improve from the long jogs.

This regimen of 30-45 minutes of resistance training coupled with 30-45 of cardio should be done 4-6 times per week depending on how cruel and intense you are on your body, it will let you know if you need an extra day of rest.

This is just the very tip of the iceberg of my knowledge on strength training as well as working out. I used to be a personal trainer and I know the exact science behind strength and fitness training. My knowledge of strength training combined with my love, knowledge, and time spent in boxing gyms allows me a special insight on how to prepare the body for boxing.

Starting next week I am getting back in the gym, and I am going to keep a detailed log/photo/video journal of the transformation I am about to put my body through. This is not only for my general health and well being, I also plan on finally making my debut in the amateur ranks in order to help pay my law through law school this fall. Starting this monday, over the next two months I am going to go from my current weight of 175 pounds with a body fat of around 16 percent or so to about 165 to 160 pounds with a body fat of 6-8 percent.

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post Feb 7 2009, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(stillperpetuallygrooving @ Feb 6 2009, 05:34 PM) [snapback]424163[/snapback]
Supersets are also very good, this is where two workouts are performed consecutively in order to comlete one set, exmaple: do a set of pushups/chest exercise immediately followed with a set of pullups/back exercise,



I thought they were called 'splits' as they work TWO different major muscle groups? (The chest and back in your example).



My interpetation of 'super sets', are when you have two exercises that work the same muscle group. One based on heavier weight with less reps at a slow pace, then the follwing exercise has less weight with more reps at an explosive pace.

For instance, for Chest, you do Bench press with a heavyish weight (one that you can just about perform about 12 reps with), then straight away, you do 20 push ups at an explosive pace.

Rest for a minute then repeat 2 other times.


I do this type of workout a lot. It jacks your heart rate up and gives you a good mix of strength and muscular endurance.


ANother example would be Squats for 12 reps, then 20 burpees straight after.
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- snoopnick   Starting a "Training/Boxing Tips" Forum   Feb 5 2009, 02:48 PM
- - biggeorge89   I'd love that. Being an amateur boxer myself w...   Feb 5 2009, 02:51 PM
|- - snoopnick   QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Feb 5 2009, 08:51 PM)...   Feb 5 2009, 02:58 PM
- - Spyder   We should call it...VK3do Dedication Forum.   Feb 5 2009, 02:55 PM
|- - snoopnick   QUOTE(Spyder @ Feb 5 2009, 08:55 PM) 4239...   Feb 5 2009, 02:56 PM
- - biggeorge89   Unfortunately not, only Hype, Jack, Akay can do th...   Feb 5 2009, 03:00 PM
- - snoopnick   Maybe pass a word up the ranks then?   Feb 5 2009, 03:01 PM
|- - stillperpetuallygrooving   one of the best, and perhaps underrated training t...   Feb 5 2009, 04:22 PM
- - JonnyBlaze   I like this thread..Good idea..I'll write some...   Feb 5 2009, 08:58 PM
|- - snoopnick   QUOTE(JonnyBlaze @ Feb 6 2009, 02:58 AM) ...   Feb 5 2009, 09:11 PM
- - damarvelous1   Are we having another debate about weight lifting?...   Feb 5 2009, 10:23 PM
- - 3King3   I cant do it cause they blocked it at work but if ...   Feb 6 2009, 12:10 AM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE(3King3 @ Feb 6 2009, 01:10 AM) 4240...   Feb 6 2009, 02:35 AM
- - JonnyBlaze   Rowing is one of the best exercises for any boxer....   Feb 6 2009, 02:34 AM
- - JonnyBlaze   Row machine   Feb 6 2009, 03:07 AM
- - JonnyBlaze   Fitz,ya notice how all these guys have stiff backs...   Feb 6 2009, 03:16 AM
- - Spyder   Fitz...the problem with weights is they increase f...   Feb 6 2009, 10:03 AM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE(Spyder @ Feb 6 2009, 11:03 AM) 4241...   Feb 6 2009, 07:14 PM
- - thehype   You got it. Training Tips forum is up and located ...   Feb 6 2009, 10:14 AM
- - Spyder   Thanks Hype!   Feb 6 2009, 10:22 AM
- - The C.E.O.   New section....cool.... Let me add my 2 cents.......   Feb 6 2009, 10:48 AM
- - Spyder   I guess that's better than Butterbean...   Feb 6 2009, 11:12 AM
- - Box in Hand   Ok, since weights are introduced here, I'll gi...   Feb 6 2009, 12:13 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE(Box in Hand @ Feb 6 2009, 01:13 PM)...   Feb 6 2009, 07:22 PM
- - Jack 1000   Great idea for the new forum! I posted about ...   Feb 6 2009, 04:55 PM
|- - stillperpetuallygrooving   The general idea behind the weight training aspect...   Feb 6 2009, 05:34 PM
|- - ROLL DEEP   QUOTE(stillperpetuallygrooving @ Feb 6 2009, ...   Feb 7 2009, 05:03 PM
- - STEVENSKI   To build stamina I get a firm grip of the bar ...   Feb 6 2009, 09:16 PM
|- - Spyder   QUOTE(STEVENSKI @ Feb 6 2009, 09:16 PM) 4...   Feb 6 2009, 09:22 PM
||- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE(Spyder @ Feb 7 2009, 02:22 AM) 4242...   Feb 6 2009, 09:37 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE(STEVENSKI @ Feb 6 2009, 10:16 PM) 4...   Feb 7 2009, 05:55 PM
- - Spyder   I prefer snatches to a clean/jerk.   Feb 6 2009, 10:42 PM
- - MarzB   Onto the "weight" points, I think weight...   Feb 11 2009, 07:34 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE(MarzB @ Feb 11 2009, 08:34 PM) 4247...   Feb 11 2009, 10:26 PM
- - Spyder   No way Jon...Chico was crazy good until the Floyd ...   Feb 13 2009, 04:44 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE(Spyder @ Feb 13 2009, 05:44 PM) 424...   Feb 13 2009, 07:11 PM
- - JonnyBlaze   Spyder,I missed the thing about growth hormones..D...   Feb 13 2009, 07:12 PM
- - Spyder   I wouldn't be surprised at all. The man is 43...   Feb 13 2009, 10:48 PM
- - ROLL DEEP   Why do people bash weights? As long as you'r...   Feb 15 2009, 09:58 AM
- - Spyder   QUOTEAs long as you're using low weights and d...   Feb 15 2009, 07:50 PM
|- - ROLL DEEP   QUOTE(Spyder @ Feb 15 2009, 07:50 PM) 425...   Feb 16 2009, 11:47 AM
- - Spyder   Sorry ROLL, but's that's exactly what you ...   Feb 16 2009, 12:57 PM
|- - ROLL DEEP   QUOTE(Spyder @ Feb 16 2009, 12:57 PM) 425...   Feb 16 2009, 01:09 PM
- - Spyder   No worries man, it's taken me YEARS to figure ...   Feb 16 2009, 04:03 PM
- - STEVENSKI   Man just have a kebab & watch the damm fights ...   Feb 16 2009, 07:52 PM
- - Spyder   What the fuck is up with kebobs? Why would I want...   Feb 16 2009, 09:18 PM
- - STEVENSKI   Thats it Fitz.   Feb 16 2009, 10:51 PM
- - Spyder   Standing down... Those look pretty f-ing good...   Feb 17 2009, 03:32 PM
- - snoopnick   Doner kebabs are the muthafuckin' shit! Al...   Feb 17 2009, 09:58 PM
- - STEVENSKI   Sharwma are also good & so are the Adana kebab...   Feb 17 2009, 10:14 PM
- - Snoop   Can we change this Forum to be called "Johnny...   Feb 18 2010, 12:43 AM
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