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Sugar Q
post Apr 11 2009, 10:45 PM
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Forget Pacquiao Paul Williams is the man to beat. Tell me your thoughts.
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post Apr 12 2009, 06:25 PM
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I still take Pavlik over him. That straight will land and hurt him.

Pavlik got taken to school at 170 by an all time great who put on arguably the best performance of his career...because of that, people totally disregard The Ghost, and I think that is a mistake.
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post Apr 12 2009, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE (JD @ Apr 12 2009, 07:25 PM) *
I still take Pavlik over him. That straight will land and hurt him.

Pavlik got taken to school at 170 by an all time great who put on arguably the best performance of his career...because of that, people totally disregard The Ghost, and I think that is a mistake.

I disagree JD,

I actually think Williams schools Pavlik, may even stop him late. Pavlik is made for PWill. He's a straight foward, 1-2 guy. PWill's defense is little underrated. He moves side to side well and he'll give Pavlik many different angles. I don't see Pavlik as much of threat anymore. But Pavlik can bang. One punch can turn things around. So he does have that going for him. But PWill has an IRON jaw!


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post Apr 12 2009, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE (damarvelous1 @ Apr 12 2009, 08:18 PM) *
I disagree JD,

I actually think Williams schools Pavlik, may even stop him late. Pavlik is made for PWill. He's a straight foward, 1-2 guy. PWill's defense is little underrated. He moves side to side well and he'll give Pavlik many different angles. I don't see Pavlik as much of threat anymore. But Pavlik can bang. One punch can turn things around. So he does have that going for him. But PWill has an IRON jaw!


Yes...I know you disagree, so do a lot of people after last night.

Williams pulls back straight, is hittable, and would be facing a guy his size who is a much bigger puncher than him. After the Hopkins fight, many don't see Pavlik as a threat, and that is about the time he shoots a straight right and hurts Williams badly. Plus, Williams has the cajones to bang with Pavlik if he felt like the waters were safe enough...that would be a problem.
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post Apr 12 2009, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE (JD @ Apr 12 2009, 08:40 PM) *
Yes...I know you disagree, so do a lot of people after last night.

Williams pulls back straight, is hittable, and would be facing a guy his size who is a much bigger puncher than him. After the Hopkins fight, many don't see Pavlik as a threat, and that is about the time he shoots a straight right and hurts Williams badly. Plus, Williams has the cajones to bang with Pavlik if he felt like the waters were safe enough...that would be a problem.

Well I hope you know that last night's fight has had no influences on my recent posts. I mentioned Pavlik-Williams about a year ago and was laughed at. I honestly don't think Pavlik would hurt Williams. You, along with a lot people, are not giving Williams enough credit for his defense. Yes, he is hittable. But Williams never stands in front of you unless he's banging away. I noticed over the last two fights that he is doing a good job Punching then getting out of the way. Pavlik would have his moments and it would be a terrific fight until Paul takes over around 6th or 7th round. I hope Pavlik gets by Abraham this fall because this would be a great fight.
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post Apr 12 2009, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE (damarvelous1 @ Apr 12 2009, 08:46 PM) *
Well I hope you know that last night's fight has had no influences on my recent posts. I mentioned Pavlik-Williams about a year ago and was laughed at. I honestly don't think Pavlik would hurt Williams. You, along with a lot people, are not giving Williams enough credit for his defense. Yes, he is hittable. But Williams never stands in front of you unless he's banging away. I noticed over the last two fights that he is doing a good job Punching then getting out of the way. Pavlik would have his moments and it would be a terrific fight until Paul takes over around 6th or 7th round. I hope Pavlik gets by Abraham this fall because this would be a great fight.


Pavlik can throw just as many punches as Williams...except his are a who lot harder.

Based upon the way Williams pulls back straight and leaves his head up, I don't see him avoiding getting hurt all night. Could WIlliams win a decision? Sure...he could, but I wouldn't bet on it, and I wouldn't discount Pavlik like so many have.
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post Apr 12 2009, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (JD @ Apr 12 2009, 07:53 PM) *
Pavlik can throw just as many punches as Williams...except his are a who lot harder.

Based upon the way Williams pulls back straight and leaves his head up, I don't see him avoiding getting hurt all night. Could WIlliams win a decision? Sure...he could, but I wouldn't bet on it, and I wouldn't discount Pavlik like so many have.


williams will be hitting pavlik too and while pavlik might have the harder punches williams is punching pretty hard too and i think he has the better skills... i can see williams giving somewhat of a boxing lesson to pavlik...
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post Apr 12 2009, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Apr 12 2009, 08:56 PM) *
williams will be hitting pavlik too and while pavlik might have the harder punches williams is punching pretty hard too and i think he has the better skills... i can see williams giving somewhat of a boxing lesson to pavlik...


I think if Williams tries to punch hard, that would be his downfall. If he sits down on his shots against Pavlik, he will fight Pavlik's fight.

He would be better off just being active and moving. When he is doing that, he is not a hard puncher at middle at all...with that said, that is his most difficult style.
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- Sugar Q   PAUL WILLIAMS IS THE P4P KING!   Apr 11 2009, 10:45 PM
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- - Mean Mister Mustard   Crazy talk from a crazy poster. PacMan has beate...   Apr 11 2009, 11:29 PM
|- - Sugar Q   QUOTE (Mean Mister Mustard @ Apr 12 2009, 12...   Apr 12 2009, 11:14 AM
- - The C.E.O.   Paul Williams has alot more work to do to become ...   Apr 11 2009, 11:55 PM
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- - damarvelous1   PWill still has a few fights before he gets that d...   Apr 12 2009, 01:01 AM
- - JD   LOL. No, he isn't. Top 10...yep. #1? Ehhh....   Apr 12 2009, 07:52 AM
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