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AussieLad
post Apr 29 2009, 04:55 AM
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Can the spider spin his web in a forrest?

I think Silva's last 2 fights have been disappointing. Whilst i think it is a case of bad matchmaking, with both cote and leites fighting cautiously against a dangerous counter puncher and therefore turning into a snooze fest, i also feel some of the blame must be laid at silvas feet. Sure he prefers guys to come at him, thats when he is at his most dangerous, but when he has a gut like leites who is an inferior striker who was unable to do anything to the spider when he had him on the ground... well silva should have attacked. He could have stopped leites if he had committed to an attack, instead he wasted 5 rounds trying to lure leites into attacking.

Would GSP have had that problem? No, he would have pressured leites on the ground and on the feet. GSP would have imposed his will, and that is the difference between him and silva. Silvas skill are silky smooth, but he cant make an opponent pay for lack of aggression.

This of course wont be a problem vs Griffin who isnt afraid of anyone. Griffin will prove a problem with his leg kicks and lanky striking frame. I doubt this will go to the ground either. I would love to see Silva fight Rashad. But a match with Machida, should he win, would be a huge mistake, with both guys being counter strike specialists

I see Dana White is alluding that he is close to signing a big name at middleweight, a legit challenge for Silva? I am hoping he is signing Cung Le, that would be a nice match up. Cung Le is a maestro at striking
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post Apr 29 2009, 08:55 AM
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I think people have been too hard on Silva. His last two opponents respected him too much to fully engage him. Leites was an absolute disgust and he should be ashamed of himself. As far as Griffin goes, I hope he presses but I'm sure he won't fight Silva like he did his past opponents. If he does then he gets picked apart in the first round. Cung Le is good but again, he'll get schooled in the UFC. I want to see Silva against GSP because I think that is the best match up for both.
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post Apr 29 2009, 11:42 AM
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Anderson by TKO in the 1st or 2nd round. Anderson is WAY more talented than Forrest.

GSP would get destroyed against Anderson Silva, IMO. I like GSP but if he can't take Anderson down he is done.

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post Apr 29 2009, 04:36 PM
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They are talking about Silva fighting GSP at a catchweight. And whilst Silva is bigger, the size difference isnt that much IMO. GSP is explosive, and has been able to take down supposedly superior wrestlers with ease, i think he can get Silva to the mat. And he is predominantly a striker himself, one that has improved his ground game immensely in order to compete in MMA. Silva is the better striker, with some jiu jitsu in his toolbag, but he much prefers to strike. Whilst i think Silva would win, it would be competitive if GSP can secure a few takedowns

Anderson is way more talented than forrest. Agree with you there. But the guy has heart, and is naturally bigger. Could turn out like silva vs the sandman, a blowout in the first round, but i think this will go to the 3rd round with forrest bloodied and battered but still firing back. Either way its a much more challenging foray into the light heavies than was the sandman

As for silva saying he wants to fight fedor... the guy has a death wish, but huge balls

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post Apr 29 2009, 06:39 PM
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silva should destroy forrest.. forrest is tough but no where near the league of silva...
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post Apr 29 2009, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (AussieLad @ Apr 29 2009, 04:36 PM) *
They are talking about Silva fighting GSP at a catchweight. And whilst Silva is bigger, the size difference isnt that much IMO. GSP is explosive, and has been able to take down supposedly superior wrestlers with ease, i think he can get Silva to the mat. And he is predominantly a striker himself, one that has improved his ground game immensely in order to compete in MMA. Silva is the better striker, with some jiu jitsu in his toolbag, but he much prefers to strike. Whilst i think Silva would win, it would be competitive if GSP can secure a few takedowns

Anderson is way more talented than forrest. Agree with you there. But the guy has heart, and is naturally bigger. Could turn out like silva vs the sandman, a blowout in the first round, but i think this will go to the 3rd round with forrest bloodied and battered but still firing back. Either way its a much more challenging foray into the light heavies than was the sandman

As for silva saying he wants to fight fedor... the guy has a death wish, but huge balls


silva vs. gsp is a great fight i.m.o... if silva was naturally bigger i'd give him a shot vs. fedor...
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post May 24 2009, 03:30 AM
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Silva/Griffin should be a competitive fight. I think Griffin will eventually fall. Silva's footwork is better, his overall striking game is better in terms of clinch, punching accuracy. I would also say Anderson's BJJ is better as well as having a better chin. Griffin has never been known to KO people nor submit them. He's just an all out entertaining fighter who leaves it out there. He's a big name for Silva to market himself better to the American audience. Silva by TKO in the 2nd.

As for GSP/Silva...I think GSP is to small. Is he a great MMA wrestler? Of course! But Anderson is to well rounded, better overall striker with a huge reach and weight advantage. There ground game is pretty much equal on the ground as they are both BJJ black belts. GSP has the advantage in the wrestling department but it isn't as big as people think it is due to Silva being the naturally bigger guy. Silva by TKO in the 2nd.

As for the UFC trying to sign Cung Le, I think that is a great pick up. An exciting 3 dimensional striker who uses a wide variety of moves that not many MMA fighters do. His ground is lacking but he is a really good wrestler and has a great base. Would he beat Silva? I doubt it, but you never know these days cause anything can happen with those small gloves.

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post May 29 2009, 06:00 PM
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I dont hold much hope for Griffin in this venture.

1.If he is tentative (which admittedly doesnt happen very often.) He will lose a boring decision that will be showered with BOOOS by all the MGD swilling WWE born and raised meatheads that curiously are able to purchase 500 dollar tickets to these events.

2. If Griffin presses the action....well, most likely he will be added to the likes of Leben, Fryklund(watch this one on Youtube if you haven't seen it!), Marquardt, Irvin, Franklin x 2 et al.

Griffin's biggest asset in this fight is his heart. If he can get inside and use some dirty boxing(without getting caught in the world's most dangerous MT clinch) and use some kicks to the instep as a jab, he may be able to wear Anderson down and make hay in the 3rd round.

One place Silva has shown to be vulnerable is in the Sub dept. See Takase, Chonan, and Lutter should have sub's him but used the sloppiest armbar i have ever seen.
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post Oct 31 2009, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE (fistofthundEER @ May 29 2009, 07:00 PM) *
I dont hold much hope for Griffin in this venture.

One place Silva has shown to be vulnerable is in the Sub dept. See Takase, Chonan, and Lutter should have sub's him but used the sloppiest armbar i have ever seen.


Dude that was the old Silva also i've heard a lot of rumors about some Pride fights being fixed for the japanese fighter to win but anyway that Silva is nothing like the Silva of today just like Pacqiuao is nothging like the fighter he was back in the mid to late 90's.

Silva is p4p the bets i nthe world and might just be the GOAT in MMA.
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post Nov 1 2009, 04:44 AM
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QUOTE (kidbazooka1 @ Oct 31 2009, 09:27 PM) *
Dude that was the old Silva also i've heard a lot of rumors about some Pride fights being fixed for the japanese fighter to win but anyway that Silva is nothing like the Silva of today just like Pacqiuao is nothging like the fighter he was back in the mid to late 90's.

Silva is p4p the bets i nthe world and might just be the GOAT in MMA.

No way. His comp record doesn't come close to Fedor's. His comp record ain't even better than Shogun Rua's at this point. I'd hold off on proclaiming him the GOAT just yet.
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