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May 17 2009, 01:42 PM
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Proud American Group: Members Posts: 4,872 Joined: 20-June 08 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 7,577 |
I think Hopkins biggiest accomplishments where his 20 title defenses, moving up 15 pounds and dominating the man who knocked Roy off the pound 4 pound number 1 spot, and still being an elite fighter at the age of 43.
Roy's biggest accomplishments are being at 8 time champ, going from middleweight to heavyweight staying undefeated while capturing the heavyweight crown and going back down to reclaim the LHW title. Floyd's are being a 5 division champion while remaining undefeated. Hmmmm Roy's my boy but at this moment I have to go with Hopkin's cause of the longevity of his career. Is it just me or does it seem like Hopkins has been going around dominating fighters who beat the fighters he lost too? Well except for Calzaghe. This post has been edited by 3King3: May 17 2009, 01:46 PM |
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May 17 2009, 01:44 PM
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Bantamweight Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 6-May 09 Member No.: 10,255 |
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May 17 2009, 03:45 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,778 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Beaumont, Texas Member No.: 4,447 |
a younger hopkins would have beat taylor, no doubt. but a younger hopkins did lose to roy jones. you can not compare a prime roy jones and a prime jermain taylor.. jones destroys taylor prime for prime... and fact is that even though hopkins lost to jones he gave him a very stern test and pretty much fought him on even grounds... hopkins gave jones the most hell in a fight till the tarver fights for jones... roy had to work for that win... |
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May 17 2009, 03:51 PM
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Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 6,758 Joined: 14-December 07 From: Washington DC Member No.: 6,540 |
you can not compare a prime roy jones and a prime jermain taylor.. jones destroys taylor prime for prime... and fact is that even though hopkins lost to jones he gave him a very stern test and pretty much fought him on even grounds... hopkins gave jones the most hell in a fight till the tarver fights for jones... roy had to work for that win... Montell Griffin gave Roy a tough time in their first fight. Roy clearly won the Hopkins fight and be reminded he only fought with 1 arm. My point is this though, The Hopkins of recent is better than the hopkins of the past. That's just my opinion. |
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May 17 2009, 07:35 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,778 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Beaumont, Texas Member No.: 4,447 |
Montell Griffin gave Roy a tough time in their first fight. Roy clearly won the Hopkins fight and be reminded he only fought with 1 arm. My point is this though, The Hopkins of recent is better than the hopkins of the past. That's just my opinion. i agree hopkins of recent is better than hopkins of the past... but montell was on his way to getting ko'd when jones hit him while he was down... griffin frustrated him but the rematch showed the truth of what they represented in the ring... hopkins fought though losing most of the rounds on pretty even terms with a young hungry roy jones jr.. nobody else would come that close till the tarver fights... |
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May 17 2009, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE and be reminded he only fought with 1 arm. My man, if you REALLY believe that, then I have to question whether you actually saw the fight, or if you were still an itch n your daddy's pants. The biggest crock of shit n Roy Jones' career is his much later concotion that his right hand was hurt. Not ONLY that, but at one point during the fight, and this is NOT for dispute (watch the fucking tape), the color commentators hypothesize that Roy hurt his LEFT hand, because he STOPPED throwing it. Again, it's ON TAPE, so go fuck yourself with the "Roy beat him with one arm" shit! |
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May 17 2009, 09:54 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Team BU Posts: 4,200 Joined: 10-August 05 Member No.: 3,047 |
My man, if you REALLY believe that, then I have to question whether you actually saw the fight, or if you were still an itch n your daddy's pants. The biggest crock of shit n Roy Jones' career is his much later concotion that his right hand was hurt. Not ONLY that, but at one point during the fight, and this is NOT for dispute (watch the fucking tape), the color commentators hypothesize that Roy hurt his LEFT hand, because he STOPPED throwing it. Again, it's ON TAPE, so go fuck yourself with the "Roy beat him with one arm" shit! I have not seen that fight in years, so I could not tell you my scorecard(though I know I thought Roy won comfortably). But I was wondering if you scored there fight and what it was? I used to train in the same gym as Steve Little at the time, and he was always going down to Philly to spar with Hopkins to prepare him for his fight with Jones. I specifically remember Little tell the guys at the gym Hopkins was not going to win that fight. Not that he was knocking on him, just stating his opinion from there sparring sessions. No point to my story, just crazy thinking how long ago that was, and Bernard is STILL around being one of the best fighters around at his age yet. |
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May 17 2009, 10:48 PM
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Proud American Group: Members Posts: 4,872 Joined: 20-June 08 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 7,577 |
Deep down I think it still messes with Hopkins though. No matter what he does he still has that unrevenged loss hanging over his head.
One of my co-workers favorite fighter is BHop and she always talks about Hopkins did this and Hopkins did that and how much better Hopkins and his career is better than Jones and I always shut her up and say...who did Hopkins lose to when he didn't gain the middleweight IBF title? LOL |
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May 17 2009, 11:21 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Team BU Posts: 4,200 Joined: 10-August 05 Member No.: 3,047 |
Deep down I think it still messes with Hopkins though. No matter what he does he still has that unrevenged loss hanging over his head. You think? I am not sure...but I would think Hopkins knows he matured as a fighter as he got older and there is no shame in losing to Jones at that time. And he fought him tough, and did not get blown away either. I would just think Hopkins is comfortable with his career, and does not worry too much what happened in 1993. Maybe I am wrong though? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dntknw.gif) |
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May 18 2009, 11:12 PM
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Proud American Group: Members Posts: 4,872 Joined: 20-June 08 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 7,577 |
You think? I am not sure...but I would think Hopkins knows he matured as a fighter as he got older and there is no shame in losing to Jones at that time. And he fought him tough, and did not get blown away either. I would just think Hopkins is comfortable with his career, and does not worry too much what happened in 1993. Maybe I am wrong though? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dntknw.gif) I kind of think so. I thought he was pursuing a rematch before the Calzaghe fight...could be wrong though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dntknw.gif) I bet if Jones beats Lacy then that potential match up would surface again. Of course I'd pick Hopkins this time though. |
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