 Pavlik turns down 50/ 50 for Williams, Again |
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 Jul 19 2009, 08:20 PM
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Just let Pavlik fight Sergio Mora and Martinez. Those guys have certainly earned their shot.
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Jul 19 2009, 08:40 PM
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Chief Haterizer Group: Team BU Posts: 10,592 Joined: 30-May 04 From: Sydney Member No.: 91 |
QUOTE (damarvelous1 @ Jul 20 2009, 02:20 AM)  Just let Pavlik fight Sergio Mora and Martinez. Those guys have certainly earned their shot. I am not saying that they deserve a shot either but the way to force a fight is to get ranked & then if it still will not be made then kick up a stink. Division hopping does not help his cause. |
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Jul 20 2009, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE (damarvelous1 @ Jul 19 2009, 08:54 PM) I don't think he reached his prime yet. He still has so much he needs to polish. These cats at 154 seem to want to step up. Paul should clean out 154 and then 160. exactly. he could clean out 154 and make himself a name as the undisputed jr. middle, and then be able to get the bigger fights at 147 and 160. i like williams temperment, but at this point i wish he would act a little more like haye. all haye did was make a big deal about himself and was able to get himself well known and a fight with one of the biggest names in boxing. and he didn't even deserve it, williams does. if williams did that he might get a lot more action. |
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Jul 20 2009, 06:15 PM
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Chief Haterizer Group: Team BU Posts: 10,592 Joined: 30-May 04 From: Sydney Member No.: 91 |
Well that is right I mean the way you do things is you clean out a division & if cats don't want to fight you then name & shame them in public. If they won't fight you under reasonable terms & you actually deserve to fight them then call them what they are a coward & a fraud.
154 is where Paul should be hanging out right now & get some damm belts. Pavlik vs Paul has the potential to be a huge fight but only if Paul cleans out 154 & Pavlik keeps winning for a showdown in 12-15 months time. |
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Jul 20 2009, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 20 2009, 07:15 PM) Well that is right I mean the way you do things is you clean out a division & if cats don't want to fight you then name & shame them in public. If they won't fight you under reasonable terms & you actually deserve to fight them then call them what they are a coward & a fraud. 154 is where Paul should be hanging out right now & get some damm belts. Pavlik vs Paul has the potential to be a huge fight but only if Paul cleans out 154 & Pavlik keeps winning for a showdown in 12-15 months time. I agree with you. But if Pavlik is going to fight Mora or Martinez then why shouldn't Paul be next? I heard Winky threw his name in that hat. I hope that fight gets made because Winky will give Pavlik hell. This post has been edited by damarvelous1: Jul 20 2009, 06:31 PM |
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Jul 20 2009, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE (damarvelous1 @ Jul 20 2009, 07:31 PM) I agree with you. But if Pavlik is going to fight Mora or Martinez then why shouldn't Paul be next? I heard Winky threw his name in that hat. I hope that fight gets made because Winky will give Pavlik hell. Pavlik would lose all respect if he fought Winky. Williams "sonned" Winky. Williams beat Winky much worse than he neat Margarito. Williams defeinately should be very close to 1st in line with respect to Pavlik, but doesnt deserve parrity. I think this fight will get made and KP will get beaten again. I think Williams can rule 147 - 168, like he says he can... |
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Jul 21 2009, 03:58 AM
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QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jul 21 2009, 12:23 AM) Pavlik would lose all respect if he fought Winky. Williams "sonned" Winky. Williams beat Winky much worse than he neat Margarito. Williams defeinately should be very close to 1st in line with respect to Pavlik, but doesnt deserve parrity. I think this fight will get made and KP will get beaten again. I think Williams can rule 147 - 168, like he says he can... Styles make fights. I still like a shop worn Winky over Pavlik every day of the week. |
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Jul 21 2009, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE (the ollie reed fan club @ Jul 21 2009, 04:58 AM) Styles make fights. I still like a shop worn Winky over Pavlik every day of the week. Funny thing is Winky still has some juice left. I think he beats Pavlik too. |
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Jul 21 2009, 02:06 PM
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Bourbon County Stout Group: Team BU Posts: 4,108 Joined: 23-February 05 Member No.: 1,759 |
Is it me or is anyone else getting a little tired of Goosen always trying to publicly humiliate boxers? From his wording you can see he was taking a dig at Arum as much as anything. Acting like he would offer Pavlik 50/50 out of the generosity of his heart, lol.
As others have said, Pavlik-Williams is the best fight to make now at 160 but KP's the champ and deserves the lion's share. Quick Edit -- I don't think Winky has shit left. NOT trying to take away from Paul's win which was tremendous. But whatever Winky had left before, Paul beat it all out of him. I think that will be seen next time he fights. Wink's not BHop or Shane. At his age with the way he takes care of himself (or doesn't) between fights, it's a wrap for him at the top level. This post has been edited by Big Slim: Jul 21 2009, 02:11 PM |
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Jul 21 2009, 02:41 PM
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Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 6,758 Joined: 14-December 07 From: Washington DC Member No.: 6,540 |
QUOTE (Big Slim @ Jul 21 2009, 03:06 PM) Is it me or is anyone else getting a little tired of Goosen always trying to publicly humiliate boxers? From his wording you can see he was taking a dig at Arum as much as anything. Acting like he would offer Pavlik 50/50 out of the generosity of his heart, lol. As others have said, Pavlik-Williams is the best fight to make now at 160 but KP's the champ and deserves the lion's share. Quick Edit -- I don't think Winky has shit left. NOT trying to take away from Paul's win which was tremendous. But whatever Winky had left before, Paul beat it all out of him. I think that will be seen next time he fights. Wink's not BHop or Shane. At his age with the way he takes care of himself (or doesn't) between fights, it's a wrap for him at the top level. Winky is competitive against Strum and Pavlik. |
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