[The Original MrF...]

No Way Marquez wins. He's not big enough nor fast enough.

If he comes forward he will get countered all night and end up like Hatton.

If he decides to retreat he will be pressured like Judah was in the late rounds and basically picked apart and busted up at the same time. Floyd was on his way to stop Judah before the low blow. I think the sooner Floyd wears off the rust and realizes how much stronger he is than Marquez he'll turn it on. He knows he has to win in impression fashion. I dont give a dang what anybody says if he cant stop a lightweight inside the distance then he dont deserve the Lions share of shit against Pac.

On that note this doesn't go 8 rounds.

The difference is, This isnt Zab Judah in there with Mayweather. If Money pressures JMM, then he'll be the one getting countered. People are drastically underrating Marquez here. Marquez is better than anyone Money has EVER faced. I think Marquez beats Judah, Baldomir, Hatton and Gatti too. He's great at adjusting and I dont see him getting stopped in any fashion. Mayweather will hit him, but doesnt have great power to make Marquez respect him. The guy is gonna pull a Hopkins on Mayweather. He will out think the thinker... Win or lose whats next for these 2 guys??

[provo]

Ok ok ! So I see now people are saying that marquez is a better fighter than Anyone floyd has fought??, so why is Floyd gettin dissed for fighting a smaller marquez ?? Marquez is 5'7 floyd 5'8 ,
Marquez has no shot to win ,anyone who thinks he can is trippin ,remember FLOYd is the best defensive fighter boxing has seen ..Marquez is going to try and come forward ,cause everyone believes that floyd will fold under pressure ! WHICH HE DON'T! That's what he wants he's a defensive fighter and counter puncher and will catch marquez all nite!
No Way Marquez Wins .... marquez should be happy with himself if it goes to decision...

[King Eugene]

The difference is, This isnt Zab Judah in there with Mayweather. If Money pressures JMM, then he'll be the one getting countered. People are drastically underrating Marquez here. Marquez is better than anyone Money has EVER faced. I think Marquez beats Judah, Baldomir, Hatton and Gatti too. He's great at adjusting and I dont see him getting stopped in any fashion. Mayweather will hit him, but doesnt have great power to make Marquez respect him. The guy is gonna pull a Hopkins on Mayweather. He will out think the thinker... Win or lose whats next for these 2 guys??

Mayweather is a smart pressure fighter. He will pressure but with pot shots. He wont be unloading a furry of combos recklessly that will leave him wide open. This wont look like Mayweather/Gatti but unlike Diaz he'll capitalize on Marquez when he's hurt but effective shots, not just winging away hoping for the knockout. Marquez is great but Mayweather is bigger and greater!

[The Original MrF...]

Ok ok ! So I see now people are saying that marquez is a better fighter than Anyone floyd has fought??, so why is Floyd gettin dissed for fighting a smaller marquez ?? Marquez is 5'7 floyd 5'8 ,
Marquez has no shot to win ,anyone who thinks he can is trippin ,remember FLOYd is the best defensive fighter boxing has seen ..Marquez is going to try and come forward ,cause everyone believes that floyd will fold under pressure ! WHICH HE DON'T! That's what he wants he's a defensive fighter and counter puncher and will catch marquez all nite!
No Way Marquez Wins .... marquez should be happy with himself if it goes to decision...

I'm the only one who seems to think Marquez will steal it. And doesnt everyone agree that Marquez is the BEST guy Floyd has ever faced, skillwise, ring IQwise etc...

This post has been edited by The Original MrFactor: Jul 23 2009, 11:43 PM

[kidbazooka1]

Be a little more specific. By shock, do you mean that he is going to win, or make it competitive in your eyes? Just so I know how to respond to you when the fight is over.

He's gonna knock that muthafC*ker out in the 1st rd..... lol nah just f*cking with ya.

I think he's gonna take a decision.

[kidbazooka1]

I'm the only one who seems to think Marquez will steal it. And doesnt everyone agree that Marquez is the BEST guy Floyd has ever faced, skillwise, ring IQwise etc...

Im right there with you Factor.

Marquez will show that he wants it just a little more.

[The Original MrF...]

This is what I originally thought as well, but the more I think about it the more I think he'll do the exact opposite! It's wierd seeing people trying to justify this fight and make it sound like it's an evan close fight! Just because they are top 3 fighters in the world does not mean they belong in the same ring! Deep down inside Mayweather knows this, thats why he was calling it a 'tune up' fight.

I won't be suprised at all to see Mayweather coast the fight to a decession and carry Marquez to a lackluster performance. Mayweather WILL fight either Pac, Cotto or Mosley evantually and when the fight(s) happen he will want everyone doubting him, just like people are now with his BS rib injury..he will want people thinkin he is going to loose so they tune in for next time! Gayweather gets the last laugh (make money without loosing his '0') in all this p4p/catchweight circus elephant shit that's been made in the welterweight divisions!

I dont agree... If Mayweather coasts to a victory, Pac or Cotto would be able to take the A-share at the table if a fight was to be negotiated. Mayweather must STOP JMM impressively!! Pac or Cotto will win by KO, no way that one goes 12. The winner will be in the drivers seat against Mayweather. Thats why he picked JMM, becuase he thought it was going to be a fairly easy win against a smaller guy. Wont he be surprised, when the smaller guy is taking him to school...

[D-MARV]

Just because you are a top p4p fighter of this generation means you can give away size advantage to anybody and just win. The term p4p is just what point I'm trying to make and what the term was originally used for. The term p4p was for guys giving away size advantage, but too small for bigger guys. While Marquez isn't as small as comparing a welter to a heavy weight or anything, he is still giving away strength. You think this is just a good fight just because the p4p rankings say it is.

No. I think this is a good fight because you have two fighters with tremendous skill sets facing off. You keep pointing out the that this fight is no good becuase Floyd has the strength advantage. I know that you're a B-Hop fan and I'm certain you didn't trash him when he fought Winky Wright. Marquez-Mayweather will be a very good fight and I, for one, will be looking foward to it.

[Keith]

No. I think this is a good fight because you have two fighters with tremendous skill sets facing off. You keep pointing out the that this fight is no good becuase Floyd has the strength advantage. I know that you're a B-Hop fan and I'm certain you didn't trash him when he fought Winky Wright. Marquez-Mayweather will be a very good fight and I, for one, will be looking foward to it.

After seeing the pic you posted Damarv, I may now have to agree with you about the size difference. I had previously stated that I thought it would be clear PBF was the bigger man. He is a tad taller and does still have a reach advantage, but it would seem as though JMM has filled out much nicer then I thought. I still think PBF is a bit bigger based on where they have been fighting over the last several years but it wont be the deciding factor in the fight. Combined with his reach advantage, PBF's hand speed will rule the day.

[D-MARV]

I never once said that Floyd wasn't the bigger, stronger man. The size & strength advantage is definitely on Floyd's side but certainly not significantly enough to shit on this fight.