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[Nay_Sayer]

Is this credible?

[provo]

If its rust ! He'll start off slow in the first couple rounds ! Then take over and destroy JMM ! Marquez has NO shot to win! Floyd even with a 2 year lay off is the best in the game...

[Lil-lightsout]

Floyd even with a 2 year lay off is the best in the game...

Yeah okay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes_anim.gif) Everyone should just automatically proclaim him the best in the game with his almost 2 year layoff. Now he is fighting a fucking lightweight, gimme a break. Oh, and before his retirement he beat a jr. welterweight. And his welterweight reign's opponents sucked, for whatever reasons, tougher fights were bypassed. Get real.

As far as him looking rusty, I doubt it, I am sure he looks sharp. Just BS from Roach.

This post has been edited by Lil-lightsout: Aug 30 2009, 08:54 PM

[provo]

[quote name='Lil-lightsout' date='Aug 30 2009, 06:52 PM' post='450020']
Yeah okay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes_anim.gif) Everyone should just automatically proclaim him the best in the game with his almost 2 year layoff. Now he is fighting a fucking lightweight, gimme a break. Oh, and before his retirement he beat a jr. welterweight. And his welterweight reign's opponents sucked, for whatever reasons, tougher fights were bypassed. Get real.

They sucked ?? LOL. Zab judah was one of the top welters at that time ,baldomir was consider the ring welterweight champ! Hatton was the biggest draw out there! Cotto didn't want 2 fight him , Margarito had just lost to paul will, then paul will lost . So at that time who was the Top guy for him 2 fight at welter???

[Lil-lightsout]

They sucked ?? LOL. Zab judah was one of the top welters at that time ,baldomir was consider the ring welterweight champ! Hatton was the biggest draw out there! Cotto didn't want 2 fight him , Margarito had just lost to paul will, then paul will lost . So at that time who was the Top guy for him 2 fight at welter???

1st 147 defense-Sharmba Mitchell. Mitchell was just KO'd in 3 by Tszyu 2 fights prior. Not a natural welter and has seen better days.

2nd defense-Zab Judah. Judah JUST lost to molasses Baldomir. What did he do to deserve a shot by losing??? Nothing.

3rd defense-Carlos Baldomir. Shitty fighter,regardless what the ring ratings were.Not realistically a top 5 fighter in the division.

4th defense(actually moved up to 154)-Oscar De La Hoya. Not a prime Oscar but was still a decent fighter.It was a semi close fight.

5th defense-Ricky Hatton. True 140 pounder. Tough but limited in skills.

It is debateable that Cotto did not want to fight him. Zab just choked against Baldy, no freaking way should anyone get a shot at the best after losing to a mediocre fighter. If you really believe Baldy truly deserved to be ring champ, then you should get your head examined. Margs did not lose to PW till 2nd half of 2007(soon after that Floyd retired), Margs was calling out Floyd WAY before that. PW did not lose to Quintana till AFTER Floyd retired.

So here are some fighters he SHOULD have fought, regardless of all the BS and excuses. I will pick some 147-154 ound fighters considering he moved up to challenge Oscar and he had no problem fighting smaller guys too.

Vernon Forrest, Shane Mosley ,Winky Wright ,Paul Williams, Luis Collazo, Joshua Clottey, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito.

This post has been edited by Lil-lightsout: Aug 30 2009, 09:58 PM

[STEVENSKI]

If you really believe Baldy truly deserved to be ring champ, then you should get your head examined.

He beat the fucking undisputed champion of the division in Judah. You might not like it & think he is a shitty fighter but he was the Ring champion & the true welterweight champion. That is not up for debate in any way shape or form.

[Lil-lightsout]

He beat the fucking undisputed champion of the division in Judah. You might not like it & think he is a shitty fighter but he was the Ring champion & the true welterweight champion. That is not up for debate in any way shape or form.

I don't give a fuck if he was the Ring champion. Zab had ONE great performance in stopping Spinks II to win that belt. So then Baldy beats an unfocused mental midget in Judah. Big fucking deal! Look at Baldy's record since his win over Judah, pretty much shows it was a fluke and he truly did not deserve to be the Ring champ in my eyes considering I could name over five welterweights who would have beat him. So in other words sure Baldy was the ring Champ for a moment, still does not make it an impressive performance considering there was BETTER opposition out there.

Shit...I know you are very knowledgeable of past greats, look at all the greats and good champions that lost to mediocre fighters by upset.

Titles and boxing is almost all politics. So from a real fan to another one...Do you think Baldy was the true number one fighter in the division? Throw all the BS titles out the window. Just your own honest opinion.

[STEVENSKI]

I don't give a fuck if he was the Ring champion. Zab had ONE great performance in stopping Spinks II to win that belt. So then Baldy beats an unfocused mental midget in Judah. Big fucking deal! Look at Baldy's record since his win over Judah, pretty much shows it was a fluke and he truly did not deserve to be the Ring champ in my eyes considering I could name over five welterweights who would have beat him. So in other words sure Baldy was the ring Champ for a moment, still does not make it an impressive performance considering there was BETTER opposition out there.

Shit...I know you are very knowledgeable of past greats, look at all the greats and good champions that lost to mediocre fighters by upset.

Titles and boxing is almost all politics. So from a real fan to another one...Do you think Baldy was the true number one fighter in the division? Throw all the BS titles out the window. Just your own honest opinion.

I am not saying that Baldozar was a great champion or even mediocre. I am saying he was THE champion at 147 at the time. Being that he beat the UNDISPUTED champion means he was indeed the Ring champion at the time he fought Mayweather. I think the Mayweather vs Baldozar fight was possibly his most disgraceful fight ever.

[JLUVBABY]

I am not saying that Baldozar was a great champion or even mediocre. I am saying he was THE champion at 147 at the time. Being that he beat the UNDISPUTED champion means he was indeed the Ring champion at the time he fought Mayweather. I think the Mayweather vs Baldozar fight was possibly his most disgraceful fight ever.

allight i have to say i agree with stev. here.. baldo. as limited of a champion as he was, he was the champ.. the linear champ... and that made him the man rather he was the best in the division or not.. fact is half the top 10 and maybe more could have beaten him at that time but he became the man beating judah who had beat the linear champ... history also shows that after that win the judah fight wasnt a bad fight so............

This post has been edited by JLUVBABY: Sep 1 2009, 07:03 PM