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post Oct 2 2009, 06:33 AM
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Pretty good article I came across this AM...

http://mvn.com/thecruelestsport/2009/10/th...r-the-so-c.html

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THE-NONE-TOO-CLEAN: Why Golden Boy Promotions Is Just As Dirty As Any Other Double Dealer, or, The So-Called Future of Boxing
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By CARLOS ACEVEDO

Two weeks have passed since Golden Boy Promotions pulled a nifty short con on the public with its "mystery weight" high jinks for the Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Juan Manuel Marquez mismatch. And over the course of those two weeks the boxing press, such as it is, went completely AWOL on the subject. A few blogs--The Queensberry Rules and Bad Left Hook among them--expressed disgust, but mainstream outlets were too busy thrusting their snouts into oversized cans of Gravy Train to work up a lather. Dan Rafael of ESPN.com touched on the topic last week, but placed most of the blame on Mayweather, as if a boxer handles media kits and press releases, prints up posters, finds a venue, drafts contracts, apprises the world at large about the size of the ring, etc. True, Mayweather was in on the hoax and often sounded like an amateur post-Structuralist deflecting questions about the weight, but the bottom line rests with the promoter of record.
When the real sources--Richard Schaefer and Oscar De La Hoya--were asked about the weight, they lied. Period. De La Hoya, without a certificate from the School of Hard Knocks ala Don King or an Ivy League degree ala Bob Arum (you know, the man De La Hoya once referred to as the biggest Jew from Harvard) foolishly said at one point that the fight would be at a catchweight of 143 pounds, and Schaefer disingenuously claimed that the mystery number would boost the fun factor of the weigh-in ceremony. It appears that the real reason they kept the weight and its contractual stipulations hush-hush until the last moment was to make sure negative press about the size differential would not affect pay-per-view sales.
In the end, it was all for nothing, since negative press no longer exists in boxing. Other than some of the older writers like George Kimball, Ron Borges, Thomas Hauser, and Charles Jay, boxing no longer has watchdog types in the media to alert consumers of the everyday shenanigans perpetrated in the Red Light District of sports. Michael Katz, Pat Putnam, and Malcolm "Flash" Gordon are long gone and no one has come along to replace them. Instead we have an army comprised of strange genetic crosses between cheerleaders and lapdogs posing as journalists.

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Have you ever wondered how Golden Boy managed to get these blanks dates on ESPN2 and HBO? Ostensibly, it is because GBP has managed to produce sponsors, but in the case of HBO, a subscription-based service, sponsors are irrelevant. HBO, 35 years in the boxing business, now has an exclusive output deal with a promotional firm that not only has a slimmer talent pool than Top Rank, but one that also seems to be losing ground recently. Robert Guerrero may be headed back to Goosen-Tutor promotions after a protracted legal battle, James Kirkland was sentenced to a stretch in the hoosegow, Victor Ortiz found out that his halo was made out of papier-mâché, Ricky Hatton may retire, David Haye is a loose cannon, Vivian Harris is so shot that the only possible reason GBP signed him is to feed him to HBO as a designated punching bag if he can manage to avoid getting knocked out in the meantime, Juan Manuel Marquez is 36, Shane Mosley is 38, Bernard Hopkins is closing in on middle age, and Oscar De La Hoya recently retired from getting smacked around by smaller fighters.
Their biggest star remains Floyd Mayweather Jr., a boxer who works with Golden Boy on a fight-by-fight basis and a handshake agreement. How happy can Mayweather be with his handshake buddies when half of the GBP front office ambushed him after his victory over Juan Manuel Marquez?

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For years HBO had a policy of not letting promoters grab the microphone in the ring after a fight (this should probably be known as the Don King Rule), but--voila!--two weeks ago there was Shane Mosley, a Golden Boy representative, pulling a wrestling stunt by bogarting a post fight interview to antagonize Floyd Mayweather Jr. In the background loomed the leering skull of another supposed Golden Boy "Executive," Bernard Hopkins, resembling The Crypt Keeper without his cowl, jawing away at Mayweather Jr. like Classy Freddy Blassie except free of class.
None of these Golden Boy executives--Mosley, Hopkins, De La Hoya--are nearly as entertaining as Don King is, but for some reason they get to spew forth platitudes, cliches, sales pitches, and malapropisms with virtual impunity.

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In a few weeks we will all be lucky enough to read another "blog" entry on RingTV.com by Oscar De La Hoya (It is hard to tell if this blog is "ghosted;" true, it is poorly written, but it is no worse than anything else that passes for writing in boxing these days.) about "The Return of Victor Ortiz" and headlines will pour forth quoting sage Oscar, the man who once said African-Americans cannot take body blows. Ortiz, who with each passing day sounds more and more like a jerk, now claims he fought Maidana with a "shattered" wrist. (He also claimed in the same interview with Boxingscene.com that Marcos Maidana is ducking him. Is it too early for him to be punch drunk?) What kind of promoter lets a fighter go into an important bout against a solid contender with a broken wrist? The answer is simple, of course, but why get into it? Ortiz has wasted enough cyber-time. Never has so much attention been lavished on a fighter who has accomplished so little. The Cruelest Sport will never mention him again.

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Almost nothing De La Hoya says in public is true at this point, but Schaefer, who adds a new ingredient--sanctimony--to the predictable recipe of smart and smug, would like the world to believe that he is a cut above a crooked Faro dealer. Less than a week after telling thesweetscience.com "I want to show people that we're not anymore the sport of these smoke filled rooms," Schaefer presided over the phony weigh-in debacle, a swindle if there ever was one. Unfortunately for boxing, it worked. With a reported one million buys, Golden Ploy Promotions succeeded in bilking the public and will now be further emboldened in future stings. Consumer fraud is serious business everywhere, it seems, but in boxing.

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Schaefer, like De La Hoya, also suffers from a hefty "Messiah Complex" and is convinced his every move will save boxing from itself. He was proud to bring Mayweather-Marquez to movie theaters (read: closed circuit) over a decade after Bob Arum did the same thing with De La Hoya-Chavez I; he swears he will get boxing back on network TV as if Golden Boy will be the first to do so since the network blackout of the early 1990s. Main Events managed to do it on NBC five years ago. Maybe Schaeffer will succeed where Main Events failed. A few bait and switch schemes here and there, a couple of false advertisements, some mystery catchweights, another Rocky Juarez title shot, two or three bouts featuring Deontay Wilder against the Philly Phanatic and things will work out just fine. They might even throw in a special beer promotion like they did with Mayweather-Marquez. The peculiar benefits of that Tecate promotion were outlined by Daniel Cohen of Ringside Report and can be found here: http://www.ringsidereport.com/rsr/news.php...rt=33#news_2205

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Golden Boy constantly lectures the world on its superiority to established boxing business traditions. Perhaps they mean that they are actually better than the old guard at playing the same tired games. Here are just a few of their innovative moves: Stealing fighters developed by other promoters (with the lure of HBO dates, since Golden Boy recently took HBO Sports President Ross Greenburg to a tattoo shop and had "Perfect Victim" inked across his ass in gothic script); inserting one of their "executives," the undisputed gobbledygook king Bernard Hopkins, as a commentator on their own televised promotions; defrauding the public with false weigh-ins; using RingTV.com as a shill box; until recently offering the worst Pay-Per-View undercards imaginable; a lawsuit over the alleged theft of the idea behind "The Next Great Champ" flop television show, handing over a briefcase filled with $250,000 in small bills to Manny Pacquiao as a bribe, oops, signing bonus; pushing one dreadful "catchweight" bout after another (usually involving a GBP executive); and programming dreck for ESPN2, HBO and Versus. Welcome to the future of boxing.
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post Oct 2 2009, 08:26 AM
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post Oct 2 2009, 10:11 AM
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For the record, the lead promoter of record was Mayweather Promotions, not Golden Boy, but that's a totally different story.

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Anyway...where was the criticism BEFORE the fight though. I mean, was it really a suprise that Mayweather wasn't going to make the catchweight? I know I wrote an article all the way back on July 15th about Mayweather fighting Marquez at a "guess-weight":

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De La Hoya revealed that they were keeping it a mystery to get people to watch the weigh-in on September 18th. The question is why the big secret? Since when is it important to get people to tune in to a weigh-in? It seems odd that the promoters would keep the weight a secret, especially when most fans already believe that Marquez is coming into the fight at a big disadvantage. Marquez has never fought higher than the lightweight limit of 135 pounds. Although Mayweather revealed that he's already close to 147 pounds, one would think that the matchup would look more competitive and sell more tickets if fans knew in advance that the welterweight was willing to face the lightweight at a catch-weight instead of a guess-weight. Is this truly a case of creating excitement about a weigh-in or is Mayweather uncertain of how low he can go in weight?

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content5256.html


Where were Acevedo and the other "watchdog types in the media" at from July 15-September 18? They should have been pushing their "negative press" BEFORE the bout actually took place if they really wanted to make a difference. Bitching about it after the fact is too late in my opinion. If he wanted to "alert consumers of the everyday shenanigans", then he should have been writing about this stuff (and emailing George Kimball, Ron Borges, Thomas Hauser, and Charles Jay to do the same) WEEKS before the fight actually took place...not weeks AFTER it took place. Just my opinion though I guess.

On a related note, what happened to Michael Katz? I could have sworn he was still writing about boxing. Not sure where he's implying he went. LOL.
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post Oct 2 2009, 10:22 AM
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The shocking part wasn't that Golden Boy didn't want to advertise the comical size difference in the Floyd-JMM fight, the shocking part is that nobody seems to care that Floyd came in 2 pounds overweight. Castillo was crucified for it, but nobody wants to challenge Floyd for some reason. It really was disgraceful given the already rediculous natural size advantage Floyd enjoyed.


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post Oct 2 2009, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (salvador @ Oct 2 2009, 11:22 AM) *
The shocking part wasn't that Golden Boy didn't want to advertise the comical size difference in the Floyd-JMM fight, the shocking part is that nobody seems to care that Floyd came in 2 pounds overweight. Castillo was crucified for it, but nobody wants to challenge Floyd for some reason. It really was disgraceful given the already rediculous natural size advantage Floyd enjoyed.


Because they knew all the way back in July that he was going to do that...everybody knew...Mayweather, Golden Boy Promotions, Marquez, Beristain...they all already knew. If you go back and look at all the quotes in the media from any of those guys leading up to the fight, they already knew. I mean, why keep hush-hush about it in the first place. Everyone was constantly asked about the catchweight...Marquez, Beristain, De La Hoya, Schaefer, Mayweather, Ellerbe...everyone was asked months in advance of the fight and not one of them would commit on giving the actual weight. They all knew and none of them cared so long as Marquez was getting broke off a little sumthin, sumthin extra.

So technically speaking, it wasn't a matter of Floyd not making weight...he made the weight because they all already knew that he was just going to come in under 147. Both sides agreed to that in contract so it was okay for him to come in at 146. The contract said that he had to come in under 147, but however many pounds over 144 he was, Marquez would get broke off some money. Marquez was fine with that, Golden Boy was fine with that, everyone was fine with that so technically, Mayweather didn't do anything wrong...unlike Castillo, who actually didn't make the agreed upon weight. It's not disgraceful...it's just business. LOL. Now, had Marquez not agreed to that and insisted that Mayweather fight him at 144, then it would have been a different story...but Marquez wanted the money more than he wanted an even playing field, so there's no one to blame but himself. I'm sure he'll think long and hard about that as he spends that extra $600,000.

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post Oct 2 2009, 11:56 AM
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Yup. Good points.
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for the record, Mayweather Promotions is NOT a licensed promoter in Las Vegas. See the following from Dan Rafael:



• I don't know about you, but it seems as though every time I see a segment from Mayweather's camp, somebody is wearing a "Mayweather Promotions" shirt or a sign for the company has been strategically placed in view. And with every piece of promotional material I receive and on every conference call I join, I keep hearing about Mayweather Promotions this and Mayweather Promotions that. Here's the problem: Mayweather Promotions is not a licensed promoter, according to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, nor will it be in time for this fight.

but that's another story.

for the record, acevedo was on record before the fight calling it fraudulent:



"Not only is this fight as suspicious as letterhead from the Foundation for New Era Philanthropy, it is also the latest in a series of senseless catchweight bouts made primarily for the benefit of HBO, Golden Boy Promotions, and silly "P-4-P" Fantasy League aficionados. In the end, Mayweather-Marquez is just another jerry-rigged event greased along by a compliant press corps made up almost entirely of fans. Hourly twittering about urine, tax liens, ticket sales, P-4-P ratings, and "24/7," an infomercial only slightly less contrived than the WWE, makes it seem like this fight is essentially for the Media Overkill Championship of the World.

To be clear: This bout may or may not turn out to be competitive; its initial intent, however, appears fraudulent. But even the best con games sometimes curdle and leave a scheming flimflammer or two in the lurch. Nothing in boxing is a sure thing. Cuts, disqualifications, point deductions, injuries, lunatic judges, and one well-placed blow to the temple can change the course of a fight in a nanosecond. Unfortunately for Marquez, who as recently as three years ago was hitting the scale under the featherweight limit, it looks like he might need some kind of divine intervention to upset the odds against Floyd Mayweather Jr. If not for the fact that Mayweather has been out of the ring for nearly two years, this bout would be a travesty. Is it possible that Marquez can win? Yes. Is it possible that a skydiver whose parachute malfunctions in midair can survive a fall of 8, 000 feet? Yes, but there is not a skydiver in the world willing to take action on that prop. "


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QUOTE (thehype @ Oct 2 2009, 11:11 AM) *
For the record, the lead promoter of record was Mayweather Promotions, not Golden Boy, but that's a totally different story.

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Anyway...where was the criticism BEFORE the fight though. I mean, was it really a suprise that Mayweather wasn't going to make the catchweight? I know I wrote an article all the way back on July 15th about Mayweather fighting Marquez at a "guess-weight":



Where were Acevedo and the other "watchdog types in the media" at from July 15-September 18? They should have been pushing their "negative press" BEFORE the bout actually took place if they really wanted to make a difference. Bitching about it after the fact is too late in my opinion. If he wanted to "alert consumers of the everyday shenanigans", then he should have been writing about this stuff (and emailing George Kimball, Ron Borges, Thomas Hauser, and Charles Jay to do the same) WEEKS before the fight actually took place...not weeks AFTER it took place. Just my opinion though I guess.

On a related note, what happened to Michael Katz? I could have sworn he was still writing about boxing. Not sure where he's implying he went. LOL.

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Some of what I read is the exact reason why I thought the whole time this fight is going to the cards, as Mayweather fought in 3rd gear the whole night. If Mayweather blew this 'lil' Marquez out in under 3 like he should have it would have demonstrated to the public, Mayweather nut huggers or any other fan indenial getting excited over a rubbish fight how much of a disgrace this really was!!...it was a mismatch from the moment this even became an idea in anyones head. Trying to ride this wave of money for as long as they can by recycling rubbish money fights & giving them 24/7's like these are fights of the century, Fuck GBP!!
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