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post Oct 25 2009, 08:49 AM
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After watching the Pacman-Cotto 24/7 I started to think about Margarito and the fact that he got busted trying to cheat against Mosley. Does anyone really think this guy should be able to box again? I mean seriously, this guy had a plaster like substance in his wraps that turn to bricks during a fight. That has to be the worst offense you could commit in the sport of boxing. In my opinion I believe it's far greater than using performance enhancing drugs. Margarito has the style that could kill a fighter with that type of help. Think of Mosleys family here.What if something serious would have happened because of this. Boxing is already a dangerous sport, but to basicly have a brick like substance in your gloves is ridiculous. If you watch the way Cottos face got sliced up it really makes you wonder. If I was Cotto I wouldn't fight that fucker either. Why give money to a guy that most likely had a brick like substance in his gloves. If Bob Arum had any morals he would drop this guy to prove a point, but I know thats not gonna happen because Arum is a greedy bastard. Even if you watch the Paul Williams fight it makes you wonder. I think every boxer should stay away from Margarito just so this dude cant fight. What about the Cintron fights also? Makes you wonder how long this had been going on. All of the boxers that have commented on this say that you know what's in your gloves. In my opinion all of his victories are tainted. This guy should not be allowed to fight again. Period. What does everyone else think?
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post Oct 25 2009, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Oct 25 2009, 08:49 AM) *
In my opinion I believe it's far greater than using performance enhancing drugs. Margarito has the style that could kill a fighter with that type of help. Think of Mosleys family here.What if something serious would have happened because of this. Boxing is already a dangerous sport, but to basicly have a brick like substance in your gloves is ridiculous.


I'm not at all sure that it's worse than using performance enhancing drugs, which I believe Mosley clearly used (along with RJJ, who destroyed every opponent he had in the 90s). Marg used to be my fav fighter and I hate him for being such a piece of shit cheater, but I'm not sure that using loaded gloves is worse than making your body faster/harder hitting/more able to take a punch by using roids. Just look at the difference it made in baseball.

If Mosley used steriods (and really, just look at his face), then he's just as much of a piece of shit as Marg. Boxing is the very worst sport for cheating because the consequences are so dire. The sport needs to be regulated by honest comissions, but it's not. It really is tragic what is happening to our sport.

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post Oct 26 2009, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE (salvador @ Oct 25 2009, 02:56 PM) *
I'm not at all sure that it's worse than using performance enhancing drugs, which I believe Mosley clearly used (along with RJJ, who destroyed every opponent he had in the 90s). Marg used to be my fav fighter and I hate him for being such a piece of shit cheater, but I'm not sure that using loaded gloves is worse than making your body faster/harder hitting/more able to take a punch by using roids. Just look at the difference it made in baseball.

If Mosley used steriods (and really, just look at his face), then he's just as much of a piece of shit as Marg. Boxing is the very worst sport for cheating because the consequences are so dire. The sport needs to be regulated by honest comissions, but it's not. It really is tragic what is happening to our sport.
Loaded gloves is worse mexican.

You forgot to mention known roider Vargas...I wonder why??.

RJJ never tested positive for steroids.


Shane did boxing a favor by stomping that cheating roach.
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post Oct 27 2009, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 26 2009, 02:44 PM) *
Loaded gloves is worse mexican.

You forgot to mention known roider Vargas...I wonder why??.

RJJ never tested positive for steroids.



Shane did boxing a favor by stomping that cheating roach.


Maelstrom I think what the Roy detractors who say that are referring to is when Roy fought Richard Hall. I can't remember what it was that he tested for after the fight but Roy said it was "Ripped fuel". What funny is Ripped Fuel is a fat burner which was probably used to make weight. I'll look it up but the ingredient found was a byproduct and consistent with whats in Ripped Fuel if I recall.

Tony never had any mystique...maybe online....but never in boxing.


Say it LOUD!!! Maxboxin was exactly the place. You would have thought those victories in over Manny someone and Kermit Cintron were the stuff legends were made of in 2006 six.

Here's my thoughts. I have a hard time believing Tony not only can make 147 but he does it and is effective. Since he'll have to move up, I have a great match for him that I KNOW he won't take and thats Daniel Santos.

I also believe his hands were loaded against Cotto. Judges nowadays can hardly judge a fight, your'e giving the officials credit to really monitor hands when the trainers that do this probably do it pretty slick in how they hide the layer?
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post Oct 27 2009, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (MarzB @ Oct 27 2009, 04:45 PM) *
Maelstrom I think what the Roy detractors who say that are referring to is when Roy fought Richard Hall. I can't remember what it was that he tested for after the fight but Roy said it was "Ripped fuel". What funny is Ripped Fuel is a fat burner which was probably used to make weight. I'll look it up but the ingredient found was a byproduct and consistent with whats in Ripped Fuel if I recall.

Tony never had any mystique...maybe online....but never in boxing.


Say it LOUD!!! Maxboxin was exactly the place. You would have thought those victories in over Manny someone and Kermit Cintron were the stuff legends were made of in 2006 six.

Here's my thoughts. I have a hard time believing Tony not only can make 147 but he does it and is effective. Since he'll have to move up, I have a great match for him that I KNOW he won't take and thats Daniel Santos.

I also believe his hands were loaded against Cotto. Judges nowadays can hardly judge a fight, your'e giving the officials credit to really monitor hands when the trainers that do this probably do it pretty slick in how they hide the layer?



I'd say he had some mystique. Sure the loaded gloves played a HUGE part in his win over Cotto but the effect of walking through Cotto's punches with a shit eating grin I'd say affected Miguel in that fight.

Cintron (OK a pussy at the best of times) couldn't deal with Tony walking right through him either.

I'd say outside of his loaded gloves it was about the only thing he had going for him.
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- xxxxxx   Antonio Margarito   Oct 25 2009, 08:49 AM
- - JLUVBABY   QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Oct 25 2009, 08:49 AM) Af...   Oct 25 2009, 08:55 AM
- - Lil-lightsout   Though he probably does not deserve to fight again...   Oct 25 2009, 09:05 AM
- - rusty_trombone   he should fight the rest of his fights against guy...   Oct 25 2009, 12:04 PM
- - salvador   QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Oct 25 2009, 08:49 AM) In...   Oct 25 2009, 02:56 PM
|- - xxxxxx   QUOTE (salvador @ Oct 25 2009, 02:56 PM) ...   Oct 25 2009, 04:42 PM
|- - maelstrom   QUOTE (salvador @ Oct 25 2009, 02:56 PM) ...   Oct 26 2009, 02:44 PM
|- - salvador   QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 26 2009, 02:44 PM)...   Oct 27 2009, 09:29 AM
|- - MarzB   QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 26 2009, 02:44 PM)...   Oct 27 2009, 03:45 PM
|- - the ollie reed fan club   QUOTE (MarzB @ Oct 27 2009, 04:45 PM) Mae...   Oct 27 2009, 05:31 PM
|- - maelstrom   QUOTE (the ollie reed fan club @ Oct 27 2009,...   Oct 27 2009, 10:49 PM
- - The CEO   Margarito is fully worn....physically, mentally, A...   Oct 25 2009, 05:45 PM
- - provo   Margarito should be banned from boxing! And hi...   Oct 25 2009, 07:54 PM
- - torvix2000   Margarito was handicapped in there against Mosley....   Oct 25 2009, 07:56 PM
- - torvix2000   QUOTE (torvix2000 @ Oct 26 2009, 12:56 AM...   Oct 25 2009, 07:58 PM
|- - rusty_trombone   QUOTE (torvix2000 @ Oct 25 2009, 08:58 PM...   Oct 26 2009, 12:21 PM
- - Jack 1000   Lifetime ban for Margarito and his trainer. It sh...   Oct 26 2009, 12:06 PM
- - maelstrom   QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Oct 25 2009, 08:49 AM) Af...   Oct 26 2009, 02:40 PM
|- - xxxxxx   QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 26 2009, 02:40 PM)...   Oct 26 2009, 05:35 PM
|- - maelstrom   QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Oct 26 2009, 05:35 PM) I...   Oct 27 2009, 02:25 AM
|- - streetlion1   QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 27 2009, 02:25 AM)...   Oct 30 2009, 09:11 AM
|- - maelstrom   QUOTE (streetlion1 @ Oct 30 2009, 09:11 A...   Oct 30 2009, 04:11 PM
|- - streetlion1   QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 30 2009, 03:11 PM)...   Nov 5 2009, 09:36 AM
- - KookedKrack   QUOTE (torvix2000 @ Oct 25 2009, 08:56 PM...   Oct 26 2009, 06:44 PM
- - King Eugene   Torvix...WTF man?   Oct 27 2009, 12:10 AM
- - torvix2000   QUOTE (rusty_trombone @ Oct 26 2009, 05:2...   Oct 27 2009, 12:28 AM
- - torvix2000   QUOTE (rusty_trombone @ Oct 26 2009, 05:2...   Oct 27 2009, 12:37 AM
- - kidbazooka1   Im curious to see how Margarito will look after ta...   Oct 27 2009, 12:43 AM
- - The Original MrFactor   I suspect Margarito had the same wraps in the Cott...   Oct 27 2009, 02:11 AM
- - the ollie reed fan club   Vegas officials WATCHED as Margarito's hands w...   Oct 27 2009, 05:41 AM
|- - maelstrom   QUOTE (the ollie reed fan club @ Oct 27 2009,...   Oct 27 2009, 08:18 AM
- - torvix2000   Then what happened to those sources close to Mosle...   Oct 27 2009, 09:41 AM
- - BigG   Maragrito's done at the top level IMO.   Oct 27 2009, 09:43 AM
|- - salvador   QUOTE (BigG @ Oct 27 2009, 09:43 AM) Mara...   Oct 27 2009, 09:58 AM
|- - maelstrom   QUOTE (BigG @ Oct 27 2009, 09:43 AM) Mara...   Oct 27 2009, 03:17 PM
|- - xxxxxx   QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 27 2009, 03:17 PM)...   Oct 27 2009, 03:45 PM
|- - maelstrom   QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Oct 27 2009, 03:45 PM) Af...   Oct 27 2009, 10:50 PM
|- - xxxxxx   QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 27 2009, 10:50 PM)...   Oct 28 2009, 08:13 AM
|- - maelstrom   QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Oct 28 2009, 08:13 AM) So...   Oct 28 2009, 01:57 PM
- - JD   Shane dominated Collazo and looked good doing so.   Oct 28 2009, 02:35 PM
|- - Michigan Assassin   QUOTE (JD @ Oct 28 2009, 02:35 PM) Shane ...   Oct 28 2009, 02:51 PM
||- - JD   QUOTE (Michigan Assassin @ Oct 28 2009, 03...   Oct 28 2009, 02:55 PM
|- - maelstrom   QUOTE (JD @ Oct 28 2009, 02:35 PM) Shane ...   Oct 28 2009, 04:06 PM
|- - JD   QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 28 2009, 05:06 PM)...   Oct 28 2009, 05:57 PM
|- - maelstrom   QUOTE (JD @ Oct 28 2009, 05:57 PM) Except...   Oct 28 2009, 06:17 PM
|- - JD   QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 28 2009, 07:17 PM)...   Oct 28 2009, 06:36 PM
|- - maelstrom   QUOTE (JD @ Oct 28 2009, 06:36 PM) Maybe....   Oct 29 2009, 05:46 PM
|- - JD   QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 29 2009, 06:46 PM)...   Oct 29 2009, 07:14 PM
|- - maelstrom   QUOTE (JD @ Oct 29 2009, 07:14 PM) He sto...   Oct 29 2009, 09:03 PM
|- - JD   QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 29 2009, 10:03 PM)...   Oct 29 2009, 09:14 PM
|- - Nay_Sayer   QUOTE (JD @ Oct 29 2009, 09:14 PM) Mosley...   Oct 30 2009, 12:29 AM
|- - JD   QUOTE (Nay_Sayer @ Oct 30 2009, 01:29 AM)...   Oct 30 2009, 07:23 AM
- - Lil-lightsout   Another one thinking Shane looked good against Col...   Oct 28 2009, 07:57 PM
- - BigG   QUOTE (JD @ Oct 30 2009, 12:23 PM) It was...   Oct 31 2009, 07:54 AM
|- - JD   QUOTE (BigG @ Oct 31 2009, 08:54 AM) JD.....   Oct 31 2009, 08:14 AM
- - Sweetness   I had Cotto-Mosley a draw. Weren't punch stat...   Oct 31 2009, 11:47 PM
- - Imperius3   I also had Cotto-Mosley a draw. It was close, and ...   Nov 1 2009, 01:52 AM
- - Method   QUOTE JD...you'd really have to be generous to...   Nov 5 2009, 11:19 AM
- - PR316   ^^^I agree. I thought Cotto banked enough of the ...   Nov 5 2009, 11:48 AM
- - xxxxxx   I was just looking back at old topics and found th...   Jan 23 2010, 01:20 AM
- - kidbazooka1   I Think Maragrito is done the Mosley beating finis...   Jan 23 2010, 01:28 AM


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