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post Nov 20 2009, 05:40 AM
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Leonard Ellerbe, advisor to Floyd Mayweather Jr., told the Los Angeles Times that Shane Mosley would be their prime target if negotiations to make a fight with Manny Pacquiao fall apart. Mayweather is looking for the biggest financial opportunities out there, and the two biggest are Pacquiao and Mosley. Bob Arum of Top Rank and Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions [acting on behalf of Mayweather] are going to do their best to make a deal for a Mayweather-Pacquiao bout. Mosley has to win his January 30 welterweight unification with Andre Berto to keep the Mayweather possibility alive.

"If the fight can't be made [with Pacquiao], we'll fight Shane Mosley if he can get past Berto," Ellerbe said.

Negotiations for Mayweather-Pacquiao will be tough. Mayweather wants the bulk of the money, and so does Pacquiao. Ellerbe doesn't seem to care if Pacquiao's pay-per-view with Miguel Cotto lands a higher buyrate than Mayweather's bout with Juan Manuel Marquez. He stands with Mayweather's position of Marquez bringing very little to the table in terms of pay-per-view buys.

"It's no secret the camps don't see eye to eye, but this is bigger than boxing," Ellerbe said. "We understand the magnitude of this."

"The numbers don't lie, people do," Ellerbe said. "[Pacquiao] had good numbers, God bless him, but he had a dance partner [Cotto] this time."
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post Nov 20 2009, 06:49 AM
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No reason to go after Mosley first if he was actually fighting Pacquiao next.

Carlos Quintana? Matthew Hatton? If we are talking more money, I would venture a guess that a fight against Shane would do more for Floyd's wallet than either of those guys. If we are talking legacy, which I am certain we are not, Mosley would do far more than either of those guys.
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post Nov 20 2009, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE (JD @ Nov 20 2009, 07:49 AM) *
No reason to go after Mosley first if he was actually fighting Pacquiao next.

Carlos Quintana? Matthew Hatton? If we are talking more money, I would venture a guess that a fight against Shane would do more for Floyd's wallet than either of those guys. If we are talking legacy, which I am certain we are not, Mosley would do far more than either of those guys.

Of course and I agree with that but the reason for "possibly" fighting in the UK is for the money they are paying him to fight over there but that was from The Hype's sources. Ellerbe suggest that Mayweather is fighting either Manny or Mosley next. So I guess we can pretty much throw those other three out the window.
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post Nov 20 2009, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE (King Eugene @ Nov 20 2009, 06:57 AM) *
Of course and I agree with that but the reason for "possibly" fighting in the UK is for the money they are paying him to fight over there but that was from The Hype's sources. Ellerbe suggest that Mayweather is fighting either Manny or Mosley next. So I guess we can pretty much throw those other three out the window.


Really? Since when do you take what Leonard Ellerbe says as gospel?

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Here's the key...he didn't say WHEN they would fight either one of those guys.

And besides....Mosley ain't beating Berto. Mark my words. The only way Shane wins is if Berto is if he puts Berto to sleep. Otherwise, expect an ugly affair that sees Berto hugging and running all 12 rounds en route to a CONTROVERSIAL decision (much like Taylor vs. Hopkins) that will force a rematch.

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post Nov 20 2009, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE (thehype @ Nov 20 2009, 03:23 PM) *
Really? Since when do you take what Leonard Ellerbe says as gospel?

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Here's the key...he didn't say WHEN they would fight either one of those guys.

And besides....Mosley ain't beating Berto. Mark my words. The only way Shane wins is if Berto is if he puts Berto to sleep. Otherwise, expect an ugly affair that sees Berto hugging and running all 12 rounds en route to a CONTROVERSIAL decision (much like Taylor vs. Hopkins) that will force a rematch.

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Sorry but I dont know either you, your sources, or Ellerbe personally so from the outside looking in I tend to believe the people actually dealing with the situation instead of a "he told me they said" story. Nothing against you or your people but thats just me.

I'm picking Berto but rooting for Shane in that fight as well.

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post Nov 21 2009, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE (King Eugene @ Nov 20 2009, 11:49 PM) *
Sorry but I dont know either you, your sources, or Ellerbe personally so from the outside looking in I tend to believe the people actually dealing with the situation instead of a "he told me they said" story. Nothing against you or your people but thats just me.

I'm picking Berto but rooting for Shane in that fight as well.


That's okay...I know me, my sources AND Ellerbe...and there's probably a couple of people around here who can vouch for the fact that I just spoke to Ellerbe...and let me tell you something, Ellerbe isn't doing anything except feeding the media what they need to hear in order to make people like you actually believe that they're EAGER to make the fight with Pacquiao. I've been in this industry long enough and have spoken with Ellerbe enough times to know that all this posturing that they're doing in the media....all this talk about "he hasn't called me out" and "we understand the magnitude of the event"...that shit is just to keep up appearances. Oh, sure, he said they're going to fight Pacquiao and Mosley, but he didn't say when. He never said that it was going to be Floyd's next fight. Nothing against you or your people but I trust the people that I'm speaking to a lot more than I trust an interview that Leonard Ellerbe did with David Mayo or any reporter for that matter. Trust me when I tell you that Leonard Ellerbe does NOT speak to the regular media the same way he speaks to me.

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post Nov 21 2009, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE (thehype @ Nov 21 2009, 01:16 AM) *
That's okay...I know me, my sources AND Ellerbe...and there's probably a couple of people around here who can vouch for the fact that I just spoke to Ellerbe...and let me tell you something, Ellerbe isn't doing anything except feeding the media what they need to hear in order to make people like you actually believe that they're EAGER to make the fight with Pacquiao. I've been in this industry long enough and have spoken with Ellerbe enough times to know that all this posturing that they're doing in the media....all this talk about "he hasn't called me out" and "we understand the magnitude of the event"...that shit is just to keep up appearances. Oh, sure, he said they're going to fight Pacquiao and Mosley, but he didn't say when. He never said that it was going to be Floyd's next fight. Nothing against you or your people but I trust the people that I'm speaking to a lot more than I trust an interview that Leonard Ellerbe did with David Mayo or any reporter for that matter. Trust me when I tell you that Leonard Ellerbe does NOT speak to the regular media the same way he speaks to me.

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Like I said you have the inside track and I dont. If your right I'm sure it'll come to the light. You should start filling us in more in the team fighthype section.
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