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post Nov 20 2009, 05:40 AM
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By Mark Vester

Leonard Ellerbe, advisor to Floyd Mayweather Jr., told the Los Angeles Times that Shane Mosley would be their prime target if negotiations to make a fight with Manny Pacquiao fall apart. Mayweather is looking for the biggest financial opportunities out there, and the two biggest are Pacquiao and Mosley. Bob Arum of Top Rank and Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions [acting on behalf of Mayweather] are going to do their best to make a deal for a Mayweather-Pacquiao bout. Mosley has to win his January 30 welterweight unification with Andre Berto to keep the Mayweather possibility alive.

"If the fight can't be made [with Pacquiao], we'll fight Shane Mosley if he can get past Berto," Ellerbe said.

Negotiations for Mayweather-Pacquiao will be tough. Mayweather wants the bulk of the money, and so does Pacquiao. Ellerbe doesn't seem to care if Pacquiao's pay-per-view with Miguel Cotto lands a higher buyrate than Mayweather's bout with Juan Manuel Marquez. He stands with Mayweather's position of Marquez bringing very little to the table in terms of pay-per-view buys.

"It's no secret the camps don't see eye to eye, but this is bigger than boxing," Ellerbe said. "We understand the magnitude of this."

"The numbers don't lie, people do," Ellerbe said. "[Pacquiao] had good numbers, God bless him, but he had a dance partner [Cotto] this time."
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post Nov 21 2009, 04:00 PM
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Boxingscene is reporting that May 1 2010 is the target date for Mayweather - Pacman.
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post Nov 21 2009, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Nov 21 2009, 03:00 PM) *
Boxingscene is reporting that May 1 2010 is the target date for Mayweather - Pacman.

Not gonna happen...
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post Nov 21 2009, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE (Nay_Sayer @ Nov 21 2009, 03:07 PM) *
Not gonna happen...


Totally agree NS,

It will easily be 2011 by the time they agree to terms for this fight and that's IF it happens. Be skeptical about Floyd facing any kind of serious challenge. Sure, Manny is the smaller guy, but there is a possability that he could land big and knock Floyd's block off because of his power. Watch HBO nut-hug anything that Mayweather does. Especially Lamps and Kellerman. They can't knock any fighter under their long term contract.

Our sources have great accuracy, probably I would say 75% or better of the things that they say happen, will happen. However, it would be nice if the information on this tune-up shit was incorrect because if our sources are right it really is a slap in the face for boxing fans. This tune-up is such a waste of time anyway and Scum Moneybags will want the tune-up on PPV for $39.95 with the big Mayweather-Pacquiao superfight probably $64.95. Hey, some outlets did Cotto-Pacquiao for that.

I really believe that Floyd could care less about his fans or about what's good for boxing. It's all about the least risks for the most money. Whatever works for him. Floyd MIGHT fight the LOSER of Mosley-Berto if the loser looks like shit or the winner if the winner just squeaks by with a decision. Mosley looking like shit for Floyd means, his legs are gone a.l.a Forrest. Floyd's hit lists are easy to recognize:

1.) Fighting smaller men at least 1-2 divisions smaller than he

2.) Fighting non-punchers so he can't get hurt

3.) Fighting big money names who no longer present a threat to his ego with the possability of losing.

IF A CHALLENGE COMES ALONG WHO CAN THREATEN FLOYD WITH:

1.) A fighter in his natural weight class

2.) A fighter with a heavy punch and/or a brawler

3.) A fighter who represents a serious risks Floyd says any of the following:

A. If the challenger is threatening and has a loss: Floyd: "Why should I have to fight him? He's lost already? (Ignoring the great progression that a fighter may have made, or that the loss may have happened years ago.) "I would just do what has already been done." (He is using these excuses not to fight Manny.)

B. If the challenger is a brawler and has an undefeated winning streak and is Floyd's natural weight.

Floyd: "Why should I fight him? he brings no money to the table?"

Floyd: "I refuse to deal with [name promoter] who don't respect me.

Floyd: "I ain't accepting no 50/50 purse shit. "I'm Floyd Mayweather the greatest fighter who ever lived, why shouldn't I get at least 60% of the purse." 50/50 says that (promoter or fighter or both) don't respect me, and it's all about me being treated with the respect that I deserve.

Floyd (on Manny) "Why should I fight Pacquiao. I shut out Juan Marquez who gave Manny more trouble than any fighter in his career. I won more rounds against Marquez than Manny did against Cotto." And Arum, he don't respect me, and Floyd Mayweather demands respect I am the greatest fighter who ever lived."

Interviewer to Floyd, "Well, how do you respond to the critics who say that you are not fighting guys at your natural weight, that you have avoided big punchers at your natural weight and why are you taking these tune up fights when the world wants to see you fight Manny Pacquiao.?"

Floyd: "Well, they don't know nothing about boxing."

Jack
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post Nov 21 2009, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 21 2009, 04:46 PM) *
Totally agree NS,

It will easily be 2011 by the time they agree to terms for this fight and that's IF it happens. Be skeptical about Floyd facing any kind of serious challenge. Sure, Manny is the smaller guy, but there is a possability that he could land big and knock Floyd's block off because of his power. Watch HBO nut-hug anything that Mayweather does. Especially Lamps and Kellerman. They can't knock any fighter under their long term contract.

Our sources have great accuracy, probably I would say 75% or better of the things that they say happen, will happen. However, it would be nice if the information on this tune-up shit was incorrect because if our sources are right it really is a slap in the face for boxing fans. This tune-up is such a waste of time anyway and Scum Moneybags will want the tune-up on PPV for $39.95 with the big Mayweather-Pacquiao superfight probably $64.95. Hey, some outlets did Cotto-Pacquiao for that.

I really believe that Floyd could care less about his fans or about what's good for boxing. It's all about the least risks for the most money. Whatever works for him. Floyd MIGHT fight the LOSER of Mosley-Berto if the loser looks like shit or the winner if the winner just squeaks by with a decision. Mosley looking like shit for Floyd means, his legs are gone a.l.a Forrest. Floyd's hit lists are easy to recognize:

1.) Fighting smaller men at least 1-2 divisions smaller than he

2.) Fighting non-punchers so he can't get hurt

3.) Fighting big money names who no longer present a threat to his ego with the possability of losing.

IF A CHALLENGE COMES ALONG WHO CAN THREATEN FLOYD WITH:

1.) A fighter in his natural weight class

2.) A fighter with a heavy punch and/or a brawler

3.) A fighter who represents a serious risks Floyd says any of the following:

A. If the challenger is threatening and has a loss: Floyd: "Why should I have to fight him? He's lost already? (Ignoring the great progression that a fighter may have made, or that the loss may have happened years ago.) "I would just do what has already been done." (He is using these excuses not to fight Manny.)

B. If the challenger is a brawler and has an undefeated winning streak and is Floyd's natural weight.

Floyd: "Why should I fight him? he brings no money to the table?"

Floyd: "I refuse to deal with [name promoter] who don't respect me.

Floyd: "I ain't accepting no 50/50 purse shit. "I'm Floyd Mayweather the greatest fighter who ever lived, why shouldn't I get at least 60% of the purse." 50/50 says that (promoter or fighter or both) don't respect me, and it's all about me being treated with the respect that I deserve.

Floyd (on Manny) "Why should I fight Pacquiao. I shut out Juan Marquez who gave Manny more trouble than any fighter in his career. I won more rounds against Marquez than Manny did against Cotto." And Arum, he don't respect me, and Floyd Mayweather demands respect I am the greatest fighter who ever lived."

Interviewer to Floyd, "Well, how do you respond to the critics who say that you are not fighting guys at your natural weight, that you have avoided big punchers at your natural weight and why are you taking these tune up fights when the world wants to see you fight Manny Pacquiao.?"

Floyd: "Well, they don't know nothing about boxing."

Jack



I understand your frustration, but this was a little overkill in my opinion.
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