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post Nov 21 2009, 05:55 AM
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Why did this fight never happen?
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salvador
post Nov 21 2009, 08:03 AM
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I think Judah wanted a rematch badly, but Tszyu didn't. I think it was partly because Zab was so loud and obnoxious before the fight with the "no rematch" stuff and Tszyu sincerely hated him, but I also think it was because Tszyu nearly got ko'd in that first round and he knew Judah was a dangerous rematch and there was probably more money elsewhere. More than that, I think Tszyu probably thought Judah was going to tear up the division and his ko over Judah would look that much better as time went by. Remember, Judah was supposed to be the next big thing in the sport before the Tszyu fight and the only thing that derailed him was one perfectly landed punch on the chin.



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post Nov 21 2009, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE (salvador @ Nov 21 2009, 02:03 PM) *
I think Judah wanted a rematch badly, but Tszyu didn't. I think it was partly because Zab was so loud and obnoxious before the fight with the "no rematch" stuff and Tszyu sincerely hated him, but I also think it was because Tszyu nearly got ko'd in that first round and he knew Judah was a dangerous rematch and there was probably more money elsewhere. More than that, I think Tszyu probably thought Judah was going to tear up the division and his ko over Judah would look that much better as time went by. Remember, Judah was supposed to be the next big thing in the sport before the Tszyu fight and the only thing that derailed him was one perfectly landed punch on the chin.


nearly got kod? you better be kidding.
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salvador
post Nov 21 2009, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE (moscow bear @ Nov 21 2009, 09:37 AM) *
nearly got kod? you better be kidding.


I'm not. That huge shot off the ropes in the first round had Tszyu hanging on for dear life. If Judah had been able to land one more shot, Tszyu would have gone down. I don't really know how that's even debatable.
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post Nov 22 2009, 07:16 AM
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QUOTE (salvador @ Nov 21 2009, 10:22 AM) *
I'm not. That huge shot off the ropes in the first round had Tszyu hanging on for dear life. If Judah had been able to land one more shot, Tszyu would have gone down. I don't really know how that's even debatable.


Its certainly debatable because it didnt happen. Judah had his opportunity and didnt get it done. KT was good enough to take Judahs punches and get out of the round. Whats not debatable is that 1 well placed shot put Judah on queer street. They could of fought 100 times and in each fight Judah would of been put on queer street because he had no chin and no defense.
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- Nay_Sayer   Tszyu Judah II   Nov 21 2009, 05:55 AM
- - torvix2000   I still remember Zab saying "Winner take all....   Nov 21 2009, 06:21 AM
- - STEVENSKI   It was not warranted, wanted or needed. Tszyu was ...   Nov 21 2009, 06:43 AM
- - the ollie reed fan club   It didn't happen because the 1st fight wasn...   Nov 21 2009, 07:02 AM
- - Keith   Did Judah want a rematch? I dont remember him aski...   Nov 21 2009, 07:45 AM
- - JLUVBABY   that fight didnt warrant a rematch?... it was very...   Nov 21 2009, 08:03 AM
- - salvador   I think Judah wanted a rematch badly, but Tszyu di...   Nov 21 2009, 08:03 AM
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|- - moscow bear   QUOTE (StyleZ @ Nov 21 2009, 02:58 PM) My...   Nov 21 2009, 09:01 AM
- - the ollie reed fan club   Ummm second (or is it third?) that.   Nov 21 2009, 09:02 AM
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- - lloyd mayflower   Have to agree with Fitz, theres more straw clutchi...   Nov 21 2009, 11:15 AM
- - salvador   I actually just watched the fight again and I will...   Nov 21 2009, 11:29 AM
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|- - True-Boxing-Fan   QUOTE (StyleZ @ Nov 21 2009, 12:05 PM) I...   Nov 21 2009, 03:09 PM
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- - BigG   Judah is NO Pernell Whitaker. LOL.   Nov 21 2009, 03:40 PM
|- - True-Boxing-Fan   QUOTE (BigG @ Nov 21 2009, 12:40 PM) Juda...   Nov 21 2009, 03:52 PM
- - MarzB   Do things have to be taken so literally at times??...   Nov 21 2009, 04:42 PM
- - AussieLad   Zab landed a big shot on tszyu. Whoopy doo Kostya...   Nov 21 2009, 04:55 PM
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- - MarzB   Ollie.. First we pray.. QUOTE The path of the r...   Nov 21 2009, 10:26 PM
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- - rusty_trombone   Isn't Kostya retired? Where did this shit come...   Nov 25 2009, 08:55 PM
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