Nov 28 2009, 11:38 AM
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The Consultant Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,839 Joined: 2-December 02 Member No.: 14 |
For all round by round and post-fight reactions to the IBF Super Middleweight Title Fight rematch on HBO tonight. Keep everything in this thread. Any streams are only permitted through PM's or E-Mails.
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Nov 29 2009, 03:23 PM
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The Consultant Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,839 Joined: 2-December 02 Member No.: 14 |
There was a question on another forum, "Why do so Many Bad Decisions happen in Canada?" And I responded with the follwing in regards to the Guzman-Funeka fight:
The problem is a b.s Quebec law that Canada has in effect for boxing, stating that at least two of four officials for the fights MUST be from Canada. I don't know how much the world covering federations of boxing in terms of power to challenge this law. However, we are seeing an alarming pattern of regularity of protecting the guy's "O." This has become almost the rule rather than the exception. Most of the time, the fighter with the better promoter gets close rounds, the fighter in there with top network billing is often put up with opposition where the opposing fighter's only chance of winning is by stoppage or KO. There's never recourse for appalling judging. And what promoter is going to go after judging no matter how bad it may be that benefits his own fighter? It goes beyond Canada. HBO is in bed with Golden Boy Promotions because they have a love relationship with Oscar Delahoya and the other fighters whom they have under long term contract: Mayweather, Mosley, Hopkins, Pacquiao. And it so happened that Oscar's fighter Guzman is an undefeated guy where the judges sought to protect Guzman's record. I don't know any other explanation. I don't know if it is favoritism, corruption, incompetence, or any combination of the three. But I think some of these judges who are rendering verdicts so outside the realm of what happens in the ring better start to realize that in your attempt to protect the star fighter's "O" you are driving away fans and sponsors by giving the star boxer a bad decision just to protect him. Jack |
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Nov 29 2009, 04:53 PM
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Super Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 9-December 04 Member No.: 1,307 |
I don't know if it is favoritism, corruption, incompetence, or any combination of the three. Last night was a clear case of corruption - as was the first Adrade-Bute fight. There's simply no way in the world anyone can know enough about boxing to get a job as a judge and come away with that kind of nonsense. And the fact that 2 knowledgeable boxing people (the judges) came up with the same bs score is way too improbable for there to be any other logical explanation. They were bought. |
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Jack 1000 HBO: 9 PM CST-Bute vs. Andrade II (SPOILERS 9:15) Nov 28 2009, 11:38 AM
EirbinX forgot about this fight Nov 28 2009, 11:56 AM
KookedKrack @ Joan Guzman on the under card.......where the fu... Nov 28 2009, 09:37 PM
KYLE THEEE SPINKS FAN I guess I'm one of the few who's just hype... Nov 28 2009, 10:07 PM
JLUVBABY anybody goin into chat?.. this guzman funeka fight... Nov 28 2009, 10:12 PM
StyleZ Guzman looks pretty good so far...
Am I the only... Nov 28 2009, 10:17 PM
JLUVBABY QUOTE (StyleZ @ Nov 28 2009, 09:17 PM) Gu... Nov 28 2009, 10:20 PM
JLUVBABY guzman is a good little fighter... i dont know why... Nov 28 2009, 10:18 PM
JLUVBABY hey styles if funeka starts rangin in with that ja... Nov 28 2009, 10:21 PM
StyleZ If Guzman would have fought more he could be top 1... Nov 28 2009, 10:21 PM
JLUVBABY second half of this fight is gonna be tough for gu... Nov 28 2009, 10:24 PM
JLUVBABY round 5 ali funeka... tide has changed in the figh... Nov 28 2009, 10:29 PM
JLUVBABY this is a good fight..... round 6 was for funeka i... Nov 28 2009, 10:33 PM
JLUVBABY in my opinion if funeka continues to land those li... Nov 28 2009, 10:35 PM
JLUVBABY roound 7 guzman.... did was he was supposed to bee... Nov 28 2009, 10:37 PM
JLUVBABY funeka looks like he might be tiring a lil... Nov 28 2009, 10:38 PM
JLUVBABY guzman all but out at the end of round 8... he was... Nov 28 2009, 10:41 PM
StyleZ Guzman was hurt bad! Nov 28 2009, 10:41 PM
StyleZ Funeka is like a mini PWill, lol. Nov 28 2009, 10:45 PM
True-Boxing-Fan QUOTE (StyleZ @ Nov 28 2009, 07:45 PM) Fu... Nov 28 2009, 10:59 PM
JLUVBABY round 9 funeka... if funeka was a bigger puncher t... Nov 28 2009, 10:45 PM
JLUVBABY you guys may not agree but they could stop the fig... Nov 28 2009, 10:49 PM
JLUVBABY no need in letting guzman continue to get beat up ... Nov 28 2009, 10:49 PM
GinJapan QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Nov 28 2009, 10:49 PM) ... Nov 28 2009, 10:52 PM
JLUVBABY QUOTE (GinJapan @ Nov 28 2009, 09:52 PM) ... Nov 28 2009, 10:53 PM
JLUVBABY end of round 11.. hard for me to score i was pre o... Nov 28 2009, 10:54 PM
JLUVBABY well the unofficial announcer gave it to funeka bu... Nov 28 2009, 10:54 PM
JLUVBABY question is do you guys think marquez beats a figh... Nov 28 2009, 10:58 PM
True-Boxing-Fan QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Nov 28 2009, 07:58 PM) ... Nov 28 2009, 11:01 PM
JLUVBABY winner by scores of 114 114, 116 112 funeka 114-11... Nov 28 2009, 11:01 PM
KookedKrack I'm a huge Guzman fan but he definitely lost t... Nov 28 2009, 11:01 PM
StyleZ Robbery of THE YEAR! Nov 28 2009, 11:02 PM
True-Boxing-Fan WTF, this is worse decision than Diaz-Malignaggi. ... Nov 28 2009, 11:02 PM
JLUVBABY ahh man they must have made a mistake scoring... i... Nov 28 2009, 11:02 PM
StyleZ One of the Wost Robberies I have EVER SEEN... This... Nov 28 2009, 11:02 PM
StyleZ LET's CHAT GUYS! Nov 28 2009, 11:03 PM
KYLE THEEE SPINKS FAN That was one hell of a performance by Funeka. I d... Nov 28 2009, 11:03 PM
JLUVBABY thats wrong... ali funeka is robbed of a title ton... Nov 28 2009, 11:03 PM
Lil-lightsout WOW!!!!!!!! Nov 28 2009, 11:04 PM
The CEO Consistency, Persistence, and a stiif Jab won Fune... Nov 28 2009, 11:04 PM
True-Boxing-Fan Fucking Bullshit Nov 28 2009, 11:05 PM
KookedKrack Why was Gary Shaw yelling at Guzman? It wasn... Nov 28 2009, 11:05 PM
True-Boxing-Fan Fucking Bullshit Nov 28 2009, 11:05 PM
Lil-lightsout It was a shame that the nose got busted, cause I t... Nov 28 2009, 11:07 PM
JLUVBABY what was the pedigree of those judges?.. anyone kn... Nov 28 2009, 11:10 PM
JLUVBABY its decisions in fights like that that run the wou... Nov 28 2009, 11:12 PM
StyleZ Bodyshot KO's Andrade... WOW Nov 28 2009, 11:43 PM
Lil-lightsout Well NOBODY expected that. Unbelievable. Maybe But... Nov 28 2009, 11:49 PM
KYLE THEEE SPINKS FAN Damn, I guess that erases any doubt. I love Andra... Nov 28 2009, 11:54 PM
kidbazooka1 Andrade was doing pretty good but Bute fought a mu... Nov 29 2009, 12:05 AM
The CEO Bute stopped another tough guy with that same shot... Nov 29 2009, 12:18 AM
JLUVBABY great fight for bute... allen green isnt in the su... Nov 29 2009, 12:21 AM
JLUVBABY i agree with ceo tho i dont really think much of a... Nov 29 2009, 12:24 AM
JLUVBABY didnt want to make a new thread on this but molina... Nov 29 2009, 12:36 AM
Jack 1000 Holy shit!
One of boxing's worst decision... Nov 29 2009, 03:24 AM
Keith Funeka made me a fan. I would love to see him figh... Nov 29 2009, 08:33 AM
SmartyBeardo QUOTE (Keith @ Nov 29 2009, 09:33 AM) Fun... Nov 29 2009, 10:20 AM
xxxxxx QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Nov 29 2009, 11:20 ... Nov 29 2009, 10:56 AM
JLUVBABY QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Nov 29 2009, 09:20 ... Nov 29 2009, 11:55 AM
Jack 1000 QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Nov 29 2009, 09:20 ... Nov 29 2009, 01:00 PM

JLUVBABY QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 29 2009, 12:00 PM)... Nov 29 2009, 01:50 PM

SmartyBeardo QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 29 2009, 02:00 PM)... Nov 29 2009, 10:18 PM
salvador QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Nov 29 2009, 10:20 ... Nov 29 2009, 01:13 PM
JLUVBABY its sunday morning 9 am and i hoped id wake up and... Nov 29 2009, 10:10 AM
flazi QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Nov 29 2009, 02:50 PM) ... Nov 29 2009, 02:11 PM
JLUVBABY QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 29 2009, 02:23 PM)... Nov 29 2009, 09:49 PM
Sweetness Funeka dominated Guzman. What a shitty decision.
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Romulus9 Sickening decision last night. Boxing in Canada is... Nov 29 2009, 04:41 PM
Jack 1000 The only comparison you could make to Funeka/Guzma... Nov 29 2009, 04:56 PM
BigG Good to see Guzman back in action, but I think he ... Nov 30 2009, 06:49 AM
JLUVBABY QUOTE (BigG @ Nov 30 2009, 05:49 AM) Good... Nov 30 2009, 09:54 PM

Snoop QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Dec 1 2009, 02:54 AM) b... Dec 1 2009, 03:03 AM

SmartyBeardo QUOTE (Snoop @ Dec 1 2009, 04:03 AM) How ... Dec 1 2009, 10:08 AM

JLUVBABY QUOTE (Snoop @ Dec 1 2009, 02:03 AM) How ... Dec 1 2009, 07:49 PM
Spyder QUOTE (BigG @ Nov 30 2009, 06:49 AM) Good... Dec 1 2009, 11:14 AM
Imperius3 Bute looked really good. I wish he was in the Supe... Dec 2 2009, 01:30 AM
SmartyBeardo QUOTE (Imperius3 @ Dec 2 2009, 02:30 AM) ... Dec 2 2009, 01:44 AM
Imperius3 QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Dec 2 2009, 12:44 A... Dec 2 2009, 02:04 AM
SmartyBeardo QUOTE (Imperius3 @ Dec 2 2009, 03:04 AM) ... Dec 2 2009, 02:13 AM
BigG QUOTE (Spyder @ Dec 1 2009, 04:14 PM) I r... Dec 2 2009, 01:34 AM
kidbazooka1 No doubt Funeka won that fight but i believe the t... Dec 2 2009, 01:42 AM
Fitz Just saw this fight, and I was very, very impresse... Dec 3 2009, 06:24 AM
SmartyBeardo QUOTE (Fitz @ Dec 3 2009, 07:24 AM) Just ... Dec 3 2009, 08:47 AM
JonnyBlaze QUOTE (Fitz @ Dec 3 2009, 07:24 AM) Just ... Dec 9 2009, 03:11 AM![]() ![]() |
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