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 Dec 13 2009, 03:38 AM
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Choppin Headz Boi! Group: Team BU Posts: 22,696 Joined: 16-October 02 Member No.: 19  |
I have yet to see his fight but I hope he someday gets a rematch vs. Maidana...He had Maidana down twice but Maidana was too much but I'm sure Victor learned from that...I know Victor has the talent to be a top dog at 140...
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Dec 13 2009, 03:47 AM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,982 Joined: 30-July 04 Member No.: 931 |
A rematch with Maidana needs to happen. Tonight didn't really answer any questions, and our questions can't be answered until Ortiz is in the ring with Maidana again. Ortiz needs to prove to us and himself that he has what it takes to be a champ.
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Dec 13 2009, 03:53 AM
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Super Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 3,082 Joined: 10-December 04 From: Cali Member No.: 1,319 |
He looked pretty good tonight he picked his shots a little better and boxed a bit he dropped Diaz with a straight left and cut him with a jab he won every rd. I actualy thought Diaz experience was gonna give ortiz some problems but Ortiz dominated. He looked just liek the Ortiz before the Maidana fight.
I say he should go after Maidana right away or another top 140lb he obviuosly has the skills i just hope he has the heart aswell. |
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Dec 13 2009, 04:17 AM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,982 Joined: 30-July 04 Member No.: 931 |
QUOTE (Fitz @ Dec 13 2009, 02:50 AM)  I think every ones questions were answered when he quit. I can understand fighters quitting when they are old and worn like Morales did with Pacquiao, but Ortiz wasn't getting an absolute belting, and was young and fresh. He showed he doesn't have the heart of a champion and those things you have or don't. He clearly doesn't. He will only ever be just a decent solid guy. I'm gonna give him another chance. He's still young, he can learn from the past. I'm not sold on him yet, but I'm willing to see if he can redeem himself. |
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Dec 13 2009, 11:01 AM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,778 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Beaumont, Texas Member No.: 4,447 |
i thought victor lookid timid last night... i could be wrong but i think he is having lasting effects from the madiana fight... he didnt seem as "VICIOUS" to me last night...
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Dec 13 2009, 12:31 PM
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Super Bantamweight Group: Banned Posts: 443 Joined: 30-May 09 From: STOCKTON, CaLi Member No.: 10,309 |
I agree with Fitz ,Ortiz just don't have the heart
I think he won't stick around that long as soon as he gets tagged by a top 140 fighter that will be it , he'll quit again .. |
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Dec 13 2009, 01:02 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,778 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Beaumont, Texas Member No.: 4,447 |
QUOTE (provo @ Dec 13 2009, 11:31 AM) I agree with Fitz ,Ortiz just don't have the heart I think he won't stick around that long as soon as he gets tagged by a top 140 fighter that will be it , he'll quit again .. you on the money provo... you could see "it" in his eyes during the interview before the fight... h may be good but his heart is not in it... i a fight where he may have to dig down deep i dont think he wants to have to go there.. |
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Dec 13 2009, 01:02 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,778 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Beaumont, Texas Member No.: 4,447 |
i see you on here coyote.. whats gonna be your next pic you work on?
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Dec 13 2009, 01:11 PM
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Super Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 9-December 04 Member No.: 1,307 |
QUOTE (Fitz @ Dec 13 2009, 03:50 AM) I think every ones questions were answered when he quit. I can understand fighters quitting when they are old and worn like Morales did with Pacquiao, but Ortiz wasn't getting an absolute belting, and was young and fresh. He showed he doesn't have the heart of a champion and those things you have or don't. He clearly doesn't. He will only ever be just a decent solid guy. I agree. It's too bad because he's fast and has really solid skills and is in a white hot division, but he's not willing to win at all costs or go out on his shield trying. He'll probably outpoint some solid fighters along the way, but he'll never be great. |
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Dec 13 2009, 01:40 PM
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Super Bantamweight Group: Members Posts: 493 Joined: 11-March 08 From: Currently El Paso TX Member No.: 6,987 |
QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Dec 13 2009, 10:01 AM) i thought victor lookid timid last night... i could be wrong but i think he is having lasting effects from the madiana fight... he didnt seem as "VICIOUS" to me last night... lol he has never really been vicious IMO. I think he got to where he is by fighting c-d level fighters he'll always have problems with guys that have equal or some what near the skills he has and any fighter that remotley has heart. Diaz was old mismatch which is why you can see he was suppose to be judah's easy Ko on floyd's undercard. I think golden boy saw what we saw and will match him carefully to get every dollar they can get our of him possible they should keep him away from khan, devon, bradley. perhaps a fight with diaz??? |
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