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Mar 30 2010, 08:56 AM
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Born in England, Live in England, Die in England. Group: Team BU Posts: 4,370 Joined: 23-December 04 From: Land of Hope & Glory Member No.: 1,443 |
No-one can be certain that Abraham would have gotten the KO but I think the signs were there that the likelihood was rising. Dirrell was showing signs of tiredness and Abraham was getting desperate...that equates to the chances of Abraham getting the KO increasing.
We've all seen instances like that in the past. Of course, Dirrell could have coasted out the last round and got the verdict he'd earned but we'll never know now. I did read that Dirrell suffered no concussion though. Strange considering he was apparently knocked out and suffered convulsive like twitches... |
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Mar 30 2010, 10:39 AM
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Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 6,386 Joined: 19-December 03 From: Seattle Member No.: 87 |
No-one can be certain that Abraham would have gotten the KO but I think the signs were there that the likelihood was rising. Dirrell was showing signs of tiredness and Abraham was getting desperate...that equates to the chances of Abraham getting the KO increasing. We've all seen instances like that in the past. Of course, Dirrell could have coasted out the last round and got the verdict he'd earned but we'll never know now. I did read that Dirrell suffered no concussion though. Strange considering he was apparently knocked out and suffered convulsive like twitches... I disagree that Dirrell was tiring any more from simply fighting a 12 round fight. And for me Abraham getting desperate could actually be a hindrance to getting the KO as his shots were starting to become wider and more predictable. I think there's a much higher probability that Dirrell finished on his feet and won a UD than the much less likely Abraham KO that many here seem to think would have been guaranteed had the incident not happened. |
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Mar 30 2010, 11:56 AM
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Flyweight Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: 28-December 09 From: CHARLESTON SC Member No.: 10,697 |
That still doesn't change anything I said. How can anyone be 100% sure that Abraham would have gotten the KO? Last time I checked,All this posting stuff is personal opinion bro.Dirrel was reaching the trenches.Its my OPINION, I feel that he was cracking.ABRAHAM is definitely not the dude you want to be in front of when your starting to show that your falling apart @ the seems.Look @ the stats bro they don't lie
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Mar 30 2010, 12:05 PM
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Flyweight Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: 28-December 09 From: CHARLESTON SC Member No.: 10,697 |
No-one can be certain that Abraham would have gotten the KO but I think the signs were there that the likelihood was rising. Dirrell was showing signs of tiredness and Abraham was getting desperate...that equates to the chances of Abraham getting the KO increasing. I say we should all pitch in & see if there's any we could purchase an oscar for his bitch ass.Fuck it,yea said it We've all seen instances like that in the past. Of course, Dirrell could have coasted out the last round and got the verdict he'd earned but we'll never know now. I did read that Dirrell suffered no concussion though. Strange considering he was apparently knocked out and suffered convulsive like twitches... |
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Mar 30 2010, 01:43 PM
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Junior Middleweight Group: Team BU Posts: 2,005 Joined: 13-May 08 From: Bonny Scotland Member No.: 7,369 |
Time for my two pence worth, addressing only the "knock out" since I unfortunately do not have a crystal ball so cant say what was coming in round 12.
It looked like a fuckin dull shot right on the chin, and who can really argue whether he was out or not. All I will say is 2 things. 1. If I got hit on the chin like that whilst not expecting it by Arthur Abraham you can be damn sure I wouldnt do that little delay thing Dirrell did, I would go down like the Belgrano 2. I am struggling to remember seeing anyone twitching around like he was, if anyone can provide me with an example otherwise, feel free. But i'd be prepared to bet that any example that can be given didnt then entail an arguement about play-acting. I'm not saying one way or the other like I said I dont know. Just playing devil's advocate |
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Mar 30 2010, 05:28 PM
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Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 6,386 Joined: 19-December 03 From: Seattle Member No.: 87 |
Last time I checked,All this posting stuff is personal opinion bro.Dirrel was reaching the trenches.Its my OPINION, I feel that he was cracking.ABRAHAM is definitely not the dude you want to be in front of when your starting to show that your falling apart @ the seems.Look @ the stats bro they don't lie Of course this board is based on personal opinions, but that doesn't mean those personal opinions don't vary in their legitimacy. |
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Mar 30 2010, 09:55 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Team BU Posts: 4,200 Joined: 10-August 05 Member No.: 3,047 |
The bottom line is this, and there is NO denying this! Arthur Abraham hit a man when he was down, with a very hard punch on the chin. That is definitely a DQ infraction. So people can keep speculating AA was going to do this and that, well he should not have resorted to a cheap tactic then. And even if AA did not know Dirrell was down when he hit him, which I hope no one buys his story, it STILL is a foul. And people keep mentioning how tired Dirrell was, did anyone even look at AA? He was pretty exhausted himself. ALL boxers get tired and learn how to fight in that condition, so just because some are eluding to Dirrell's fatigue, does not mean he was getting stopped.
People always complain about boxing in general with all the corruption and BS, me included. But it is funny how look at all the "play" this fight gets due to this fiasco. If Dirrell would have went on to a decision win, this fight would barely be talked about. So maybe it's good boxing is all $%@!** up sometimes? |
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Mar 31 2010, 01:57 PM
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SKULLSPLITTER Group: Members Posts: 8,111 Joined: 15-March 06 Member No.: 4,665 |
The bottom line is this, and there is NO denying this! Arthur Abraham hit a man when he was down, with a very hard punch on the chin. That is definitely a DQ infraction. So people can keep speculating AA was going to do this and that, well he should not have resorted to a cheap tactic then. And even if AA did not know Dirrell was down when he hit him, which I hope no one buys his story, it STILL is a foul. And people keep mentioning how tired Dirrell was, did anyone even look at AA? He was pretty exhausted himself. ALL boxers get tired and learn how to fight in that condition, so just because some are eluding to Dirrell's fatigue, does not mean he was getting stopped. People always complain about boxing in general with all the corruption and BS, me included. But it is funny how look at all the "play" this fight gets due to this fiasco. If Dirrell would have went on to a decision win, this fight would barely be talked about. So maybe it's good boxing is all $%@!** up sometimes? 'signed...great post. and us educated hardcore fans, whether we wanna admit it or not, love it for everything that it is... The reason I have the sig I have is to remind people to take it into consideration when evaluating certain matchups...for Corruption is prevalent nowadays. |
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Mar 31 2010, 03:01 PM
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Super Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 3,316 Joined: 9-April 03 From: South Florida Member No.: 107 |
Either way, I thought Dirrell was headed to a sure victory. He should have had 2 knockdowns really, so the one they didn't count for Abraham and him cancelled each other out.
And he was outclassing Abraham easily throughout the first 7-8 rounds. And people forget that prior to the DQ, he was easily winning the 11th round so I don't know how Abraham would have gotten the KO, barring a lucky shot. If anyone was gonna get stopped, it was Abraham, running in wide open and exposed to counter punches. IMO, the better fighter won the fight and if they cross paths again in the super 6, the same thing would happen. |
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Apr 2 2010, 02:39 AM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 21-April 07 From: New York, New York Member No.: 5,991 |
The shot from abraham was instinctive ... in pursuit of a running ass bich who had been floored in the previous round... Dirrell was running for dear life. I hope Abaraham decapitates his ass in the rematch. all that twitching??? get serious!!! the shot was not even that hard. Dirrell watched the fight when Jones was disqualified and took notes from Montell Griffin but he added the twitching for extra dramatic impact...
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