[Method]

Note the sarcasm in that post, jlupi.

[TRU]

You're reaching with this argument Tru. For every Camacho I could give you a Toney. Each fighter is an individual. I get that you are trying to make your argument through comparison but it seems a weird one to me. I still see Shane as fundamentally the same fighter he was at the start of his ceer with a few adjustments along the way (as is to be expected.) Even your boy Mayweather is not the same fighter he was at the start of his career and he hasn't been beat yet (excepting the first Castillo fight.)

Mayweather ain't the same fighter he was at the start of his career moreso because he's fighting at 147 compared to 130 or 140. He's undersized at welter and he fights in a much more defensive manner than he did at the lower weights.

Mosley changed up his style after the first Forrest fight... after having fought at 147 seven times. It's more than evident that he doesn't fight with the same confidence he did prior to that fight.

Apples and oranges man.

It's cure that lil lights out is trying to use sarcasm to deflect the point. It's funny how refers to... PERFECT DEFENSE instead of clinching. Yeah... I'll take James Toney any day over some clinch-based fighter like Mosley, Hatton, or Hopkins.

Gotta luv the effort from lil lights out... I mean seriously... it's cute.

[Method]

I'd say at 154 he's undersized. I think Welter is his optimal weight.