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> Naazim Richardson: Has He Given Shane Mosley the Blueprint to Beat Floyd Mayweather?, Allhiphop.com Interview
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post Apr 20 2010, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE (Keith @ Apr 20 2010, 07:25 PM) *
Ruined? That is a gross innacuracy on any level.


Think... Camacho-Rosario... if you even know about that one.
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post Apr 20 2010, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE (TRU @ Apr 20 2010, 08:28 PM) *
Think... Camacho-Rosario... if you even know about that one.


Listen, you can claim whatever you want. I wouldnt have the slightest problem with you claiming Forrest dimished Shane in some way. But to say he ruined him is grossly innacurate. Since the Forrest loses Shane has beaten good fighters. He has loses to Winky and Cotto(no shame in losing to either imo) but since Forrest he has yet to taste the canvas again. Ruined fighters dont beat the likes of DLH, Vargas, Collazo, and Margarito. Ruined fighters get beat up.




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post Apr 20 2010, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE (Keith @ Apr 20 2010, 08:37 PM) *
Listen, you can claim whatever you want. I wouldnt have the slightest problem with you claiming Forrest dimished Shane in some way. But to say he ruined him is grossly innacurate. Since the Forrest loses Shane has beaten good fighters. He has loses to Winky and Cotto(no shame in losing to either imo) but since Forrest he has yet to taste the canvas again. Ruined fighters dont beat the likes of DLH, Vargas, Collazo, and Margarito. Ruined fighters get beat up.



The fact that you bring up Oscar and Vargas as credible wins for Shane shows there's no point to this discussion.

Holding/Clinching mask the ruin that Vernon brought upon Shane.

Open your eyes my friends...
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post Apr 20 2010, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE (TRU @ Apr 20 2010, 08:43 PM) *
The fact that you bring up Oscar and Vargas as credible wins for Shane shows there's no point to this discussion.

Holding/Clinching mask the ruin that Vernon brought upon Shane.

Open your eyes my friends...


First... are holding and clinching illegal in boxing? Its strange, but I see them in every fight to some degree.
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post Apr 20 2010, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE (Keith @ Apr 20 2010, 08:47 PM) *
First... are holding and clinching illegal in boxing? Its strange, but I see them in every fight to some degree.


Ummm, I assumed people here understood the rules of boxing.

Here's a link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquess_of_Queensberry_rules

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QUOTE (TRU @ Apr 21 2010, 10:43 AM) *
The fact that you bring up Oscar and Vargas as credible wins for Shane shows there's no point to this discussion.

Holding/Clinching mask the ruin that Vernon brought upon Shane.

Open your eyes my friends...


Why isn't an Oscar win credible?
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post Apr 20 2010, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (Fitz @ Apr 20 2010, 08:50 PM) *
Why isn't an Oscar win credible?


Ummm... how did you score the fight?
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post Apr 20 2010, 07:54 PM
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I scored it for Oscar, I see what you are getting at. I just thought you were insinuating about the quality of Oscar.
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post Apr 20 2010, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE (TRU @ Apr 20 2010, 08:50 PM) *
Ummm, I assumed people here understood the rules of boxing.

Here's a link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquess_of_Queensberry_rules


Hugging and wrestling are not the same as holding and clinching. If we used your interpretation of the rules, every fight would end in a dq.

Here's something you just wrote in another thread....

QUOTE (TRU @ Apr 20 2010, 08:48 PM) *
Wait... Floyd has a close fight against Oscar at 154 and now he beats Martinez?

Oscar was not faded in that fight with Floyd but he definitely wasn't in his physical prime like he was against Mosley the first go around.


after writing this here...

QUOTE (TRU @ Apr 20 2010, 08:43 PM) *
The fact that you bring up Oscar and Vargas as credible wins for Shane shows there's no point to this discussion.


So the Oscar Floyd fought was not faded and the Oscar Shane beat 4 years prior to that isnt credible? Or maybe you just disagree with the scoring... which is a different discussion. But even if you had Oscar up on the cards in that fight then I still cant see how that proves Shane is ruined. a 7-5 loss to Oscar at 154(clearly not Shanes best weight since he currently is at 147) hardly lends Shane ruined.

Was Vargas the best competition... no, but Shane treated him as such. The fact that you feel Vargas was compromised proves that Shane clearly wasnt.

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post Apr 20 2010, 08:25 PM
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Im laying money on Mosely. I ain't never heard Naaz sound "unsure". As much as I enjoyed the interview, Im not gonna base my interpretation of Naazim off of a hiphop site that is partial to Mayweather.


Maybe Percy fighthype can get an interview w Naazim like they have in the past, and we can get it from the horse's mouth.

Im laying some money on Mosely.
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