[The CEO]

nah man, it's because the world cup, although a huge event, isn't the best that soccer has to offer. European League play is infinitely better, and so is Champions League.

lol...I hear that every 4 years too...

Still...in those leagues, the game is what it is...the constant, crazy flopping is the most disgusting shit ever...a moment ago, there was an Argentinian rolling around like he had been disemboweled because he got slapped in the lip...lol

It's like the refs are retards too...falling for the dives....giving out bullshit yellows and what not...I'm pretty sure I could do a better job than them....


In the end, one would think they could present their sport in the best way possible during its grand event on the big stage...but no...they're unable to because the nature of the game is lacking...

[lloyd mayflower]

Believe me CEO you dont dislike that shit as much as myself and any other real football fans out there. Its a cancer on the game that has crept in worse and worse and is growing proportionally with the money/business side of the game. Like boxing in a way.

The way I see it it should be easy to stamp out. But FIFA have consistently failed to grab their chances to make an example of cheats. This is all down to 2 facts. FiFA is a top heavy, backward organisation who deny progress, and also, that Sepp Blatter aside from not being a football man, is a momental cunt

[Guest_Fitz_*]

...it really IS lacking as a sport.

I always get a good laugh reading things like this.
Thanks C.E.O.

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Oh man............lol.

[The CEO]

Believe me CEO you dont dislike that shit as much as myself and any other real football fans out there. Its a cancer on the game that has crept in worse and worse and is growing proportionally with the money/business side of the game. Like boxing in a way.

The way I see it it should be easy to stamp out. But FIFA have consistently failed to grab their chances to make an example of cheats. This is all down to 2 facts. FiFA is a top heavy, backward organisation who deny progress, and also, that Sepp Blatter aside from not being a football man, is a momental cunt

I hear all that, man...I understand....like I said, I've tried my best to be open minded towards this sport for many years...I even steered my daughter into playing the game....I've caught big league games too when I've stayed abroad....the skill level increases, and I've been enchanted by supreme ball control and teamwork at times....but the game remains the same...

Fuck it...all I know is, I've tried again....I'll be trading in my FIFA video game tomorrow...lol

[The CEO]

I always get a good laugh reading things like this.
Thanks C.E.O.

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Oh man............lol.

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You're welcome...it's good shit, ain't it?

The word "lacking" is always a winner...

[Guest_Fitz_*]

It's an American thing. Not a lot, but the majority of the american public come across as extremely ignorant to the rest of the world. There is a sport that is dominated world wide and nothing comes close. But it can't possibly be that you guys just don't enjoy the sport, it has to be that there is something wrong with the sport, despite it flourishing world wide, lol.
The same thing with TV. The Office (UK), great TV show. American's didn't get it, way too subtle for them, so they dumb it down and make their own version, lol. Look, I can definitely see how the sport isn't for everyone, it's an acquired taste and some people don't have the attention span to watch it, it's very tactical and slower than most sports (by the way, don't you like golf?). I just find it funny, when people say they should change it, or what's wrong with it.
That's like a B-C grade athlete telling Mayweather that he needs to change his style. What do you think Mayweather would say?

"You are C grade and insignificant, I am the best fighter in the world and the most recognised".

That is what it's like when people talk about changing soccer, lol.

[The CEO]

I'm sorry...I know some of you grew up on El Futbol and follow it religiously....you should know this isn't a personal jab at all....only a fair and honest opinion...

If any American should dig Soccer, it would be me....some of you that really know me behind the scenes could probably vouch for that...

but just because the world likes a Ricky Martin or a Lady Gaga the best....it doesn't mean I have to like them too...lol

Lord knows I've tried...in fact, I believe Soccer has gotten worse and worse over the past few decades...the bad acting and stalling is running rampant now...it used to be not nearly as prevalent...

[Run and Gun Game...]

It's an American thing. Not a lot, but the majority of the american public come across as extremely ignorant to the rest of the world. There is a sport that is dominated world wide and nothing comes close. But it can't possibly be that you guys just don't enjoy the sport, it has to be that there is something wrong with the sport, despite it flourishing world wide, lol.
The same thing with TV. The Office (UK), great TV show. American's didn't get it, way too subtle for them, so they dumb it down and make their own version, lol. Look, I can definitely see how the sport isn't for everyone, it's an acquired taste and some people don't have the attention span to watch it, it's very tactical and slower than most sports (by the way, don't you like golf?). I just find it funny, when people say they should change it, or what's wrong with it.
That's like a B-C grade athlete telling Mayweather that he needs to change his style. What do you think Mayweather would say?

"You are C grade and insignificant, I am the best fighter in the world and the most recognised".

That is what it's like when people talk about changing soccer, lol.

Its a point of view thing Fitz. To the Majority of the american public i dont think they consider something wrong with it as much as they just dont like it. Compaired to the big name sports played here, it comes across as boring and pointless.. its not just soccer, Hockey suffers the same fate.

If the rest of the world considers the america public extremely ignorant than what does that say about the rest of the world? In fact if you were here you would see, people are people, the same everywhere. You have assholes in all cultures. As Far as the UK version of television shows, to be honest, and no offense intended, nobody can hardly understand what you are saying. Alot of British shows have a very strong accent that make them hard to watch.

Your analogy on mayweather is incorrect as well. It would be like Micheal Jordan telling mayweather to change the way he does things. Great athletes just very differant sports.

Im being serious here and not slamming soccer for a sec. I really would like to see a generation of Americas elite athletes play soccer because it is a world sport, and would like us to compete with our best in the world community. fact is though, as well as American professional sports pay, and the prestige that comes with playing them, our elite athletes will always gravitate torward the American pro sports first

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[Guest_Fitz_*]

I'm sorry...I know some of you grew up on El Futbol and follow it religiously....you should know this isn't a personal jab at all....only a fair and honest opinion...

If any American should dig Soccer, it would be me....some of you that really know me behind the scenes could probably vouch for that...

but just because the world likes a Ricky Martin or a Lady Gaga the best....it doesn't mean I have to like them too...lol

Lord knows I've tried...in fact, I believe Soccer has gotten worse and worse over the past few decades...the bad acting and stalling is running rampant now...it used to be not nearly as prevalent...

I don't know what your comment about 'anybody liking soccer, it should be you' means, but it doesn't mean anything to me now, as I have no idea what it's supposed to mean, lol.
Comparing Ricky Martin or Lady Gaga is also a cheap shot. People around the world like bad music, generally if sport around the world is popular, it's usually for a reason, and bad sports are never popular, unlike bad music, which can be popular. So while I understand you comparing soccer to those pop artists is another cheap shot (surprise, surprise).

Look, I don't have a problem if someone doesn't like the sport. I just find it funny when people suggest it needs some changes, so it can suit the minority (ie-you). It's going along perfectly, the sport is dominated world wide and doing something right. It doesn't need too much changing.

There are sports like MMA, NFL and such that maybe doesn't appeal to me strongly. Is there something wrong with the sport? Not necessarily, maybe, just maybe it could be that the problem is on my end. I may not have the patience or something. It just doesn't appeal to me. Doesn't mean something is wrong with the sport and I am going to start saying what needs to change in the sport (despite it flourishing and me being in the minority).
That's all I'm saying. Some people seem to think that if the sport doesn't appeal to them, there is automatically a problem with the sport, when in fact it just isn't for you.
I suppose the same thing if someone tried to tell you that beer sucks and something is wrong with it. Maybe you would feel that the person just doesn't like beer, but the guy would be an idiot if he started saying that they need a more 'sweet' flavour, more like a soft drink so it can appeal to him.
You know what beer drinkers would say? Get fucked, beer is fine the way it is, the rest of the world loves it. The problem is you and you not enjoying it, not the beverage itself.
That's all I'm getting at, and why I laugh when people point out what needs to change in something that is so dominant and by a country mile.

[SmartyBeardo]

I don't know what your comment about 'anybody liking soccer, it should be you' means, but it doesn't mean anything to me now, as I have no idea what it's supposed to mean, lol.
Comparing Ricky Martin or Lady Gaga is also a cheap shot. People around the world like bad music, generally if sport around the world is popular, it's usually for a reason, and bad sports are never popular, unlike bad music, which can be popular. So while I understand you comparing soccer to those pop artists is another cheap shot (surprise, surprise).

Look, I don't have a problem if someone doesn't like the sport. I just find it funny when people suggest it needs some changes, so it can suit the minority (ie-you). It's going along perfectly, the sport is dominated world wide and doing something right. It doesn't need too much changing.

There are sports like MMA, NFL and such that maybe doesn't appeal to me strongly. Is there something wrong with the sport? Not necessarily, maybe, just maybe it could be that the problem is on my end. I may not have the patience or something. It just doesn't appeal to me. Doesn't mean something is wrong with the sport and I am going to start saying what needs to change in the sport (despite it flourishing and me being in the minority).
That's all I'm saying. Some people seem to think that if the sport doesn't appeal to them, there is automatically a problem with the sport, when in fact it just isn't for you.
I suppose the same thing if someone tried to tell you that beer sucks and something is wrong with it. Maybe you would feel that the person just doesn't like beer, but the guy would be an idiot if he started saying that they need a more 'sweet' flavour, more like a soft drink so it can appeal to him.
You know what beer drinkers would say? Get fucked, beer is fine the way it is, the rest of the world loves it. The problem is you and you not enjoying it, not the beverage itself.
That's all I'm getting at, and why I laugh when people point out what needs to change in something that is so dominant and by a country mile.

Now, let me get this shit straight. Are you defending the fact that FIFA continues to refuse to utilize the most basic technology to avoid a comedy of errors like what happened today?

Do you enjoy watching grown men roll around on the ground acting like they just got shot in order to get their opponent penalized, then jump up and go score a goal?

Are you satisfied with the ludicrous preponderance of ties in the round robin phase of the World Cup?

I have admitted repeatedly that I am not a soccer expert. However, I have been playing it since I was in 4th grade, the first year it was introduced into California public schools. We won the first three elementary school city championships thanks to a PE coach that had played in college and my neighbor who was a half Dutch and Indonesian immigrant. There are more serious soccer fans in America than most guys around here realize. I'm watching Portland v Tampa Bay right now.

None of that makes me an expert. But I can tell you this; the abominations that happened today are not unlike the Whittaker v Chavez Jr draw. They drain life out of the sport for me. There is 0 excuse for that shit. It is disgusting.

We can all sit here and conclude that the superior teams won. That is a sick joke. England's goal would have tied the game in the blink of an eye. England had come roaring back. If the goal had been allowed, nobody can determine what might have happened. England may have steamrolled the Germans. What if England's goal had been allowed and one of Germany's goals had been disallowed?

And the utter bullshit suggesting that Argentina is just that good based on today's performance is sickening. The Mexicans had played them even until that offsides goal. In fact, in my opinion they had outplayed the Baby Blue up until then. If not for the illegal goal, the game was only 2-1. What if that had given Mexico the 1st goal? Would the Mexican defender have made the absentminded blunder he did?

Today's events undermine the legitimacy of the World Cup.

By the way, one of the reasons I enjoy watching soccer is that it is non-stop. No commercial obstructions. I also love American Football but the commercial interruptions are so frequent that it is hard to watch a whole game these days. It is also distressing that the commercials are often more memorable than even the championship game itself.