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post May 27 2010, 08:36 PM
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In a recent issue of Ring Magazine, they did this one in matching up Mayweather with the all time greats.


I do believe this is a tough fight for Robinson because of the styles. Ray had never met anyone quite as athletic, quick, nor as smart as Floyd. But the same could be said about Mayweather. He's fighting a guy who has a big edge in power, along with the blazing hand speed, perfect footwork, and rock solid chin.


I think its a chess match much of the fight, but Robinson will eventually find Floyd with his straight right hand over the shoulder roll and when he hurts Floyd, PBF won't recover quite as easily as he did Shane.

I think Robinson takes a competitive but clear decision over 15 rounds with Floyd in clear survival mode to just make it to the end.
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post Jul 23 2010, 09:42 PM
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Well if he gets into a war with Sugar Ray, I don't think that would bode well for him. Robinson had chilling power with either hand.

If Floyd boxes and moves, he can make it competitive.
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post Jul 23 2010, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 23 2010, 09:42 PM) *
Well if he gets into a war with Sugar Ray, I don't think that would bode well for him. Robinson had chilling power with either hand.

If Floyd boxes and moves, he can make it competitive.

Floyd can't move nearly as good as Robinson..Floyd doesn't move good period..There are plenty of guys who move better today than Floyd..Floyd is more similar to James Toney in this aspect,they box good but don't have good footwork outside of their small movements with their feet(pivot out or whatever)..I see Floyd getting stuck in spots he wouldn't want to be in against Ray..Floyd would definitely need to work on his balance for this fight as well..Leaning in when throwing a right hand won't get ya far with Ray..
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post Jul 24 2010, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ Jul 23 2010, 11:06 PM) *
Floyd can't move nearly as good as Robinson..Floyd doesn't move good period..There are plenty of guys who move better today than Floyd..Floyd is more similar to James Toney in this aspect,they box good but don't have good footwork outside of their small movements with their feet(pivot out or whatever)..I see Floyd getting stuck in spots he wouldn't want to be in against Ray..Floyd would definitely need to work on his balance for this fight as well..Leaning in when throwing a right hand won't get ya far with Ray..


Lightweight Floyd did have good footwork. He was always light on his feet, and good with side steps and pivots. However, I have also noticed that he does get off balance ever so often especially when opponents put pressure on him(Castillo, Hatton).

But your right in saying that he's not exceptional with his footwork. When I think of great footwork, I think of fighters like Robinson, Pep, Ali, Jersey Joe Walcott, Benny Leonard, Billy Conn(Watch that first with Joe Louis), and Ezzard Charles.

Today, the lightest guy on his feet that I see is Manny Pacquiao.

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- PR316   Sugar Ray Robinson vs Floyd Mayweather..   May 27 2010, 08:36 PM
- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ May 27 2010, 08:36 PM) In ...   May 27 2010, 09:22 PM
|- - and the NEW   QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ May 28 2010, 03:22 AM...   May 28 2010, 05:51 AM
|- - Maxy   QUOTE (and the NEW @ May 28 2010, 06:51 A...   May 28 2010, 07:47 AM
||- - and the NEW   QUOTE (Maxy @ May 28 2010, 12:47 PM) Good...   May 29 2010, 03:59 AM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (and the NEW @ May 28 2010, 05:51 A...   May 29 2010, 12:47 AM
- - PR316   ^^^^Thats true. For Mayweather to last the dist...   May 27 2010, 10:13 PM
- - neophyte7   Ray lost to Lamatta who I respect but is not maywe...   May 29 2010, 05:18 PM
- - D-MARV   This is a really tough one to call... I wish there...   May 29 2010, 09:27 PM
- - PR316   Admittedly there is limited footage of a welterwei...   May 29 2010, 10:11 PM
- - Run and Gun Game Calls   This is like compairing kobe Bryant to MJ. Kobe i...   Jun 20 2010, 06:54 AM
- - PR316   ^^^^^No question... Ray is definitely better than...   Jul 15 2010, 07:57 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 15 2010, 07:57 PM) ^^^...   Jul 15 2010, 08:18 PM
- - PR316   If its a 12 round fight I do give Floyd a chance t...   Jul 15 2010, 11:46 PM
- - Run and Gun Game Calls   very good post pr316   Jul 19 2010, 06:40 PM
- - dominicbuilder9k1   You compare Sugar Ray Robinson with Floyd..?... N...   Jul 20 2010, 12:50 AM
- - kidbazooka1   The only welters who i could see giving a peak Rob...   Jul 20 2010, 01:13 AM
- - neophyte7   If he could lose to someone the skill level of jak...   Jul 21 2010, 03:51 PM
- - PR316   Lamotta was a super strong fella who could walk th...   Jul 21 2010, 06:59 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 21 2010, 06:59 PM) Lam...   Jul 21 2010, 09:35 PM
- - PR316   Another thing about Lamotta is that he would get m...   Jul 22 2010, 10:51 AM
- - neophyte7   If he lost to Lamatta he could lose to Floyd... Al...   Jul 22 2010, 02:01 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Jul 22 2010, 02:01 PM)...   Jul 22 2010, 04:20 PM
||- - Run and Gun Game Calls   QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ Jul 22 2010, 07:20 PM...   Jul 23 2010, 12:39 PM
|- - PR316   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Jul 22 2010, 03:01 PM)...   Jul 22 2010, 05:23 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 22 2010, 05:23 PM) Its...   Jul 22 2010, 06:03 PM
- - kidbazooka1   When talking about these dream matches i assume we...   Jul 23 2010, 12:29 AM
- - D-MARV   I certainly favor Robinson but what's this B.S...   Jul 23 2010, 05:27 PM
- - PR316   Yeah but Mosley and Robinson are two very differen...   Jul 23 2010, 07:07 PM
|- - D-MARV   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 23 2010, 08:07 PM) Yea...   Jul 23 2010, 07:29 PM
- - PR316   Well if he gets into a war with Sugar Ray, I don...   Jul 23 2010, 09:42 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 23 2010, 09:42 PM) Wel...   Jul 23 2010, 10:06 PM
|- - PR316   QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ Jul 23 2010, 11:06 PM...   Jul 24 2010, 12:44 PM
- - D-MARV   I agree and disagree with ya JB... Floyd has very ...   Jul 23 2010, 10:49 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (D-MARV @ Jul 23 2010, 10:49 P...   Jul 24 2010, 12:07 AM
- - neophyte7   Mayweather vs Corralles... Mayweather's foot w...   Jul 25 2010, 09:05 AM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Jul 25 2010, 09:05 AM)...   Jul 25 2010, 06:02 PM
- - PR316   I've heard some say that Floyd could have succ...   Jul 26 2010, 06:29 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 26 2010, 06:29 PM) I...   Jul 26 2010, 08:08 PM
- - PR316   I wouldn't doubt at all that Robinson threw ov...   Jul 26 2010, 10:40 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 26 2010, 10:40 PM) I w...   Jul 27 2010, 05:11 PM
- - gravytrain   I think this wouldn't be quite as difficult fo...   Jul 29 2010, 07:12 PM
- - PR316   ^^^I think its a UD as well. I don't complet...   Jul 29 2010, 07:24 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 29 2010, 08:24 PM) ^^^...   Jul 29 2010, 09:02 PM
- - PR316   ^^^^Yeah it is well known that Ray carried a few g...   Jul 29 2010, 09:19 PM
- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 29 2010, 09:19 PM) ^^^...   Jul 29 2010, 11:02 PM


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