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post May 27 2010, 08:36 PM
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In a recent issue of Ring Magazine, they did this one in matching up Mayweather with the all time greats.


I do believe this is a tough fight for Robinson because of the styles. Ray had never met anyone quite as athletic, quick, nor as smart as Floyd. But the same could be said about Mayweather. He's fighting a guy who has a big edge in power, along with the blazing hand speed, perfect footwork, and rock solid chin.


I think its a chess match much of the fight, but Robinson will eventually find Floyd with his straight right hand over the shoulder roll and when he hurts Floyd, PBF won't recover quite as easily as he did Shane.

I think Robinson takes a competitive but clear decision over 15 rounds with Floyd in clear survival mode to just make it to the end.
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post Jul 26 2010, 06:29 PM
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I've heard some say that Floyd could have success with his counter right over Robinson's low left.

I don't know because even if he lands it, Robinson being taller and an expert at rolling with punches would be able to take it and counter quickly with 2 or 3 left hooks the way he would do in quick fashion, at the same time stepping and sliding around to get into position to do more damage. Of course we know Floyd is no easy target.

But what we also know is that PBF is vulnerable to a jab. Oscar De La Hoya, Philip N'Dou, and even Ricky Hatton were able to land jabs on Floyd. And with Ray's hand speed and punching accuracy, plus the snap he had in those punches, could find Floyd on receiving end of a bloody nose or bleeding from the mouth, something he's not used to enduring.

Its a difficult fight for both guys for different reasons I think.
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post Jul 26 2010, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 26 2010, 06:29 PM) *
I've heard some say that Floyd could have success with his counter right over Robinson's low left.

I don't know because even if he lands it, Robinson being taller and an expert at rolling with punches would be able to take it and counter quickly with 2 or 3 left hooks the way he would do in quick fashion, at the same time stepping and sliding around to get into position to do more damage. Of course we know Floyd is no easy target.

But what we also know is that PBF is vulnerable to a jab. Oscar De La Hoya, Philip N'Dou, and even Ricky Hatton were able to land jabs on Floyd. And with Ray's hand speed and punching accuracy, plus the snap he had in those punches, could find Floyd on receiving end of a bloody nose or bleeding from the mouth, something he's not used to enduring.

Its a difficult fight for both guys for different reasons I think.

The reason Robinson would hold his left so low would be to keep his jab level to his opponent and not have to bring it up or down..If you watch him fight LaMotta and Basilio that's why he has it that low..If he punches down at an opponent his last 3 knuckles would land but he wanted to land his index and middle finger..To test this,just try it on a wall and you'll see what I'm talkin about..Floyd is 3 inches shorter than Floyd so he would keep it lower but not as low as he did for LaMotta and Basilio who were short to begin with and would make themselves shorter while fighting out of a full crouch instead of Ray's semi-crouch..

Floyd is vulnerable to the jab and Ray would be throwing around 40 a round..In the last LaMotta fight he threw about 60 a round with 30 other power punches EACH round..Hell of a pace..Watch the fight and count if ya don't believe me..If he had that kind of output with his jab against Floyd,I see Floyd in big trouble..DLH has a really good jab but no one today has a jab like Ray's..Ray wouldn't give you any warning it was coming so it was harder to time and see and then you add his speed to the equation and it's over..

Would Floyd be able to do good things in the fight??Yeah..They both are very very good at making adjustments after the first few rounds if things aren't going the right way for them..I see Ray being able to make more adjustments in the fight though which is in my opinion the deciding factor of who wins it..The reason why Floyd wins all his fights today is because he is able to make those adjustments which is something a lot of fighters don't have the mental energy to do..Mosley stopped thinking after he nailed Floyd for example..Mental energy keeps you focused on the task at hand and keeps you thinking and allows you to see mistakes and allows you to capitalize off the mistakes..
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- PR316   Sugar Ray Robinson vs Floyd Mayweather..   May 27 2010, 08:36 PM
- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ May 27 2010, 08:36 PM) In ...   May 27 2010, 09:22 PM
|- - and the NEW   QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ May 28 2010, 03:22 AM...   May 28 2010, 05:51 AM
|- - Maxy   QUOTE (and the NEW @ May 28 2010, 06:51 A...   May 28 2010, 07:47 AM
||- - and the NEW   QUOTE (Maxy @ May 28 2010, 12:47 PM) Good...   May 29 2010, 03:59 AM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (and the NEW @ May 28 2010, 05:51 A...   May 29 2010, 12:47 AM
- - PR316   ^^^^Thats true. For Mayweather to last the dist...   May 27 2010, 10:13 PM
- - neophyte7   Ray lost to Lamatta who I respect but is not maywe...   May 29 2010, 05:18 PM
- - D-MARV   This is a really tough one to call... I wish there...   May 29 2010, 09:27 PM
- - PR316   Admittedly there is limited footage of a welterwei...   May 29 2010, 10:11 PM
- - Run and Gun Game Calls   This is like compairing kobe Bryant to MJ. Kobe i...   Jun 20 2010, 06:54 AM
- - PR316   ^^^^^No question... Ray is definitely better than...   Jul 15 2010, 07:57 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 15 2010, 07:57 PM) ^^^...   Jul 15 2010, 08:18 PM
- - PR316   If its a 12 round fight I do give Floyd a chance t...   Jul 15 2010, 11:46 PM
- - Run and Gun Game Calls   very good post pr316   Jul 19 2010, 06:40 PM
- - dominicbuilder9k1   You compare Sugar Ray Robinson with Floyd..?... N...   Jul 20 2010, 12:50 AM
- - kidbazooka1   The only welters who i could see giving a peak Rob...   Jul 20 2010, 01:13 AM
- - neophyte7   If he could lose to someone the skill level of jak...   Jul 21 2010, 03:51 PM
- - PR316   Lamotta was a super strong fella who could walk th...   Jul 21 2010, 06:59 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 21 2010, 06:59 PM) Lam...   Jul 21 2010, 09:35 PM
- - PR316   Another thing about Lamotta is that he would get m...   Jul 22 2010, 10:51 AM
- - neophyte7   If he lost to Lamatta he could lose to Floyd... Al...   Jul 22 2010, 02:01 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Jul 22 2010, 02:01 PM)...   Jul 22 2010, 04:20 PM
||- - Run and Gun Game Calls   QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ Jul 22 2010, 07:20 PM...   Jul 23 2010, 12:39 PM
|- - PR316   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Jul 22 2010, 03:01 PM)...   Jul 22 2010, 05:23 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 22 2010, 05:23 PM) Its...   Jul 22 2010, 06:03 PM
- - kidbazooka1   When talking about these dream matches i assume we...   Jul 23 2010, 12:29 AM
- - D-MARV   I certainly favor Robinson but what's this B.S...   Jul 23 2010, 05:27 PM
- - PR316   Yeah but Mosley and Robinson are two very differen...   Jul 23 2010, 07:07 PM
|- - D-MARV   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 23 2010, 08:07 PM) Yea...   Jul 23 2010, 07:29 PM
- - PR316   Well if he gets into a war with Sugar Ray, I don...   Jul 23 2010, 09:42 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 23 2010, 09:42 PM) Wel...   Jul 23 2010, 10:06 PM
|- - PR316   QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ Jul 23 2010, 11:06 PM...   Jul 24 2010, 12:44 PM
- - D-MARV   I agree and disagree with ya JB... Floyd has very ...   Jul 23 2010, 10:49 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (D-MARV @ Jul 23 2010, 10:49 P...   Jul 24 2010, 12:07 AM
- - neophyte7   Mayweather vs Corralles... Mayweather's foot w...   Jul 25 2010, 09:05 AM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Jul 25 2010, 09:05 AM)...   Jul 25 2010, 06:02 PM
- - PR316   I've heard some say that Floyd could have succ...   Jul 26 2010, 06:29 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 26 2010, 06:29 PM) I...   Jul 26 2010, 08:08 PM
- - PR316   I wouldn't doubt at all that Robinson threw ov...   Jul 26 2010, 10:40 PM
|- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 26 2010, 10:40 PM) I w...   Jul 27 2010, 05:11 PM
- - gravytrain   I think this wouldn't be quite as difficult fo...   Jul 29 2010, 07:12 PM
- - PR316   ^^^I think its a UD as well. I don't complet...   Jul 29 2010, 07:24 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 29 2010, 08:24 PM) ^^^...   Jul 29 2010, 09:02 PM
- - PR316   ^^^^Yeah it is well known that Ray carried a few g...   Jul 29 2010, 09:19 PM
- - JonnyBlaze   QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 29 2010, 09:19 PM) ^^^...   Jul 29 2010, 11:02 PM


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