Jul 25 2010, 06:49 PM
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Super Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 3,316 Joined: 9-April 03 From: South Florida Member No.: 107 |
In the mythical matchups section, I believe Johnny Blaze made this point, citing that the proper technique on how to really sit on your punches is a lost art. But I've also heard from others in some circles that the size of the gloves plays a part now.
I mean nowadays 154 pounders wear 10 oz gloves as opposed to the 8 oz gloves they used to wear. I mean its known that these days the gloves are more padded than they were back in the 70s as well. But then again, we do have some guys that are legitimage KO punchers, just not as many as before. These days, the guys we can say are legit KO punchers are Darchinian, Juanma Lopez, Gamboa, Angulo, and a few others. But not nearly as prevalent as before. Not too long ago, we had the likes of Trinidad, Corrales, Jose Luis Lopez, Manny Pacquiao at 126 was devastating, Tszyu, Roy Jones at 168, etc. Wondering what most of y'all feel out there. Because I do feel that there aren't that many KO artists anymore. I say its a combination of both the gloves being more padded and that the true way of sittting on your punches is becoming a lost art. What do you fellas say? |
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Jul 26 2010, 12:41 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,778 Joined: 30-July 03 From: S.Florida Member No.: 128 |
punchers have fallen hard over the past few years when paired against pure boxers.
Punchers are entertaining yes, and if brought up right can cash out pretty quickly but as soon as they go up against "the boxer" it usually they will get labeled as "exposed" after the humbling beating they took at the hands of the crafty slick boxer. Then it's usually down hill imo for the puncher unless they freak show him again for $$$ b/c he damn sure aint beating the guy that mauled him. Hamed fell hard man. pop quiz....who (puncher) feel harder than Hamed after his beating? |
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Jul 26 2010, 07:43 PM
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The Savage Group: Members Posts: 3,920 Joined: 14-September 07 From: Chi-Town Member No.: 6,227 |
punchers have fallen hard over the past few years when paired against pure boxers. Punchers are entertaining yes, and if brought up right can cash out pretty quickly but as soon as they go up against "the boxer" it usually they will get labeled as "exposed" after the humbling beating they took at the hands of the crafty slick boxer. Then it's usually down hill imo for the puncher unless they freak show him again for $$$ b/c he damn sure aint beating the guy that mauled him. Hamed fell hard man. pop quiz....who (puncher) feel harder than Hamed after his beating? Who said punchers can't be pure boxers??Joe Louis and Ray Robinson were both pure boxers and 2 of the hardest punchers in history..They would use their jab or feints to setup the KO punch..So many people today think that a boxer is a guy who moves and doesn't possess a punch,lets say someone like Malignaggi..Does anyone else feel this way too??The definition of a boxer,a puncher,and so on are so much different now.. Do you mean punchers as in guys who just look for that one punch since they felt they don't have to rely on boxing skills to get the job done?? Haydel---this is not directed at you but it is something I've been thinking about for awhile..The last question is for you however.. |
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Jul 28 2010, 03:24 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,778 Joined: 30-July 03 From: S.Florida Member No.: 128 |
Who said punchers can't be pure boxers??Joe Louis and Ray Robinson were both pure boxers and 2 of the hardest punchers in history..They would use their jab or feints to setup the KO punch..So many people today think that a boxer is a guy who moves and doesn't possess a punch,lets say someone like Malignaggi..Does anyone else feel this way too??The definition of a boxer,a puncher,and so on are so much different now.. Do you mean punchers as in guys who just look for that one punch since they felt they don't have to rely on boxing skills to get the job done?? Haydel---this is not directed at you but it is something I've been thinking about for awhile..The last question is for you however.. yes, I shouldn't have used the term puncher now that look at it. I mean the guys that look for that Juggernaut shot...that eraser to turn the tide in their favor...if they don't land it they are toast type. |
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PR316 Anyone notice there are not that many one punch KO artists anymore?? Jul 25 2010, 06:49 PM
Fitz Interesting point. Not sure what it is, but I woul... Jul 25 2010, 07:15 PM
JonnyBlaze QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 25 2010, 06:49 PM) In ... Jul 25 2010, 07:38 PM
Fitz QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ Jul 26 2010, 10:38 AM... Jul 25 2010, 08:21 PM
JonnyBlaze QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 25 2010, 08:21 PM) Mayb... Jul 25 2010, 09:47 PM
JonnyBlaze OK,wanna make this a little more clear about the g... Jul 25 2010, 08:01 PM
Spyder Pacman is BY FAR the premiere KO artist. People t... Jul 25 2010, 09:43 PM
JonnyBlaze QUOTE (Spyder @ Jul 25 2010, 09:43 PM) Pa... Jul 26 2010, 04:18 AM
JonnyBlaze Awesome read..You guys gotta read this..All about ... Jul 25 2010, 09:48 PM
Fitz QUOTE (Spyder @ Jul 26 2010, 12:43 PM) I ... Jul 25 2010, 11:37 PM
gravytrain I think it's what's already been mentioned... Jul 26 2010, 09:42 AM
PR316 QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ Jul 25 2010, 10:47 PM... Jul 26 2010, 10:06 AM
JonnyBlaze QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 26 2010, 10:06 AM) Its... Jul 26 2010, 06:10 PM
PR316 ^^^I think Bernard Hopkins is the closest that com... Jul 26 2010, 07:33 PM
JonnyBlaze QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 26 2010, 07:33 PM) ^^^... Jul 26 2010, 07:54 PM
KYLE THEEE SPINKS FAN IMO it's extremely hard to throw that perfect ... Jul 27 2010, 02:01 AM
Lil-lightsout All these posters with all these boxing "skil... Jul 28 2010, 05:57 AM
Fitz I think punching technique lacks with a lot of fig... Jul 28 2010, 06:54 AM
PR316 ^^^^I think its more of the little details that ar... Jul 28 2010, 09:25 AM
Fitz QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 29 2010, 12:25 AM) ^^^... Jul 28 2010, 04:21 PM
JonnyBlaze QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 28 2010, 09:25 AM) ^^^... Jul 28 2010, 05:14 PM
pcraw The reason you don't see as any one punch knoc... Jul 28 2010, 01:51 PM
PR316 QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 28 2010, 05:21 PM) I kn... Jul 28 2010, 11:18 PM
Fitz QUOTE (PR316 @ Jul 29 2010, 02:18 PM) I h... Jul 29 2010, 12:02 AM
JonnyBlaze QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 29 2010, 12:02 AM) Yep,... Jul 29 2010, 03:48 AM
The Original MrFactor This is a great subject. I think that there are ju... Jul 29 2010, 09:53 AM
JonnyBlaze QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jul 29 2010, 0... Jul 29 2010, 06:03 PM
PR316 QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jul 29 2010, 1... Jul 29 2010, 07:22 PM
gravytrain I think Abraham, Angulo, Maidana, and Darchinyan a... Jul 29 2010, 06:50 PM
JonnyBlaze QUOTE (gravytrain @ Jul 29 2010, 06:50 PM... Jul 29 2010, 11:05 PM![]() ![]() |
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