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[Jack 1000]

What I don't understand is,

How come if a boxing match ends in say 90 seconds, people think they got ripped off. But if an MMA fight ends in 90 seconds, many people think that's amazing? I have seen some of these MMA events that are over at the drop of a hat, and so many people think that's great, even if they paid $50 for it. But for boxing, you pay $50 for a PPV that ends in 90 seconds, people think that sucks.

Personally, for boxing, I like the fighter to get some rounds in. I love knockouts but I don't want the fights to be over too quickly. I would like 3 rounds of action or more for my money in most cases. And of course, if a fight is a two-sided 12 round war, or in the earlier years of 15 rounds, what MMA purist would not love to see something like that!? Now, the MMA contests even at non-title duration are too short. Only 3 rounds for non-title fights? You just get into a fight, and its over.

The 5-round title matches are a little better. But I like the longer distance durations that boxing provides. It demonstrates the importance of endurance and stamina in conditioning. MMA guys don't have to have that long of an endurance clip because their fights are so much shorter. Longer distances, are the true measuring sticks of boxing champions. And MMA, no matter what spin you put on it, can't say that.

I'd like to hear how other people feel about this.

Jack

[STEVENSKI]

The 5-round title matches are a little better. But I like the longer distance durations that boxing provides. It demonstrates the importance of endurance and stamina in conditioning. MMA guys don't have to have that long of an endurance clip because their fights are so much shorter. Longer distances, are the true measuring sticks of boxing champions. And MMA, no matter what spin you put on it, can't say that.

I'd like to hear how other people feel about this.

Jack

Sorry I don't buy the endurance factor one iota. MMA involves a lot more energy being expended when grappling & fighting over the round than comparable in boxing. You always get exceptions to the norm but I believe that MMA fighters are much better conditioned on average than boxers.

Barbarians vs. scientists??

Considering MMA has far more possible moves & diciplines than boxing you could well be right. Boxing is quite barbarian like with only a limited moveset to choose from.

Get with the programme Jon. Boxing is dying by the day whilst MMA is getting stronger by the second.

Having attended a UFC event I was extremely impressed with the whole setup & boxing a has a long long long way to go to even get close to the slick presentation & branding of the UFC. The whole way their operation was impressed me from the build up programmes to the fact that Bruce Buffer kept us informed of what was happening with little things like telling us the next fight was 10 minutes away so do what you gotta do.

I love boxing but it is losing ground constantly with all the schenadigans & trickerations that transpire between the fighters & promoters it is getting worse rather than better.

This post has been edited by STEVENSKI: Aug 2 2010, 07:51 PM

[JonnyBlaze]

Sorry I don't buy the endurance factor one iota. MMA involves a lot more energy being expended when grappling & fighting over the round than comparable in boxing. You always get exceptions to the norm but I believe that MMA fighters are much better conditioned on average than boxers.



Considering MMA has far more possible moves & diciplines than boxing you could well be right. Boxing is quite barbarian like with only a limited moveset to choose from.

Get with the programme Jon. Boxing is dying by the day whilst MMA is getting stronger by the second.

Having attended a UFC event I was extremely impressed with the whole setup & boxing a has a long long long way to go to even get close to the slick presentation & branding of the UFC. The whole way their operation was impressed me from the build up programmes to the fact that Bruce Buffer kept us informed of what was happening with little things like telling us the next fight was 10 minutes away so do what you gotta do.

I love boxing but it is losing ground constantly with all the schenadigans & trickerations that transpire between the fighters & promoters it is getting worse rather than better.

Last fights I went to they did this too..

It's sad to see this outta ya Steve..I never see ya talkin about much boxing these days that ya come on..Disappointing..Then ya say boxing is dying more each day..

I'm not going to put my opinion about boxing's science and MMA's barbaric ways just cause it's useless,it'll just be a reply that I'm biased or some stupid shit like that..Waste of my time..

[Mean Mister Must...]

Last fights I went to they did this too..

It's sad to see this outta ya Steve..I never see ya talkin about much boxing these days that ya come on..Disappointing..Then ya say boxing is dying more each day..

I'm not going to put my opinion about boxing's science and MMA's barbaric ways just cause it's useless,it'll just be a reply that I'm biased or some stupid shit like that..Waste of my time..

Say it ain't so Johnny. Someone who trains in any type of combat sport should never brand another with that name. Let's not forget all the infidel non-boxing fans who deem the sport as barbarian. They mistakenly think boxing is filled with nothing but shady characters. Every boxer is just another dumb sap who likes to get hit and the only thing they want to do is hurt someone. For these people most boxing matches are nothing but replicas of Rocky Balboa fights, where two guys show up and swing until the other is down. That is pure ignorance and you ,my dear Johnny, are doing the same thing with MMA.

Barbarism might have been the old MMA fights but not anymore. The science might not seem as sweet to you as boxing is but it is a science nonetheless. At the end of the day both require hard training to hone skills and to go along with the talent. You cannot half ass it in either boxing or MMA.

[Warlord]

Say it ain't so Johnny. Someone who trains in any type of combat sport should never brand another with that name. Let's not forget all the infidel non-boxing fans who deem the sport as barbarian. They mistakenly think boxing is filled with nothing but shady characters. Every boxer is just another dumb sap who likes to get hit and the only thing they want to do is hurt someone. For these people most boxing matches are nothing but replicas of Rocky Balboa fights, where two guys show up and swing until the other is down. That is pure ignorance and you ,my dear Johnny, are doing the same thing with MMA.

Barbarism might have been the old MMA fights but not anymore. The science might not seem as sweet to you as boxing is but it is a science nonetheless. At the end of the day both require hard training to hone skills and to go along with the talent. You cannot half ass it in either boxing or MMA.

Amen, brother. I wish we had more posters endowed with this type of common sense. But, as Murphy's Law #13 states: Common sense is not so common.