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[Jack 1000]

What I don't understand is,

How come if a boxing match ends in say 90 seconds, people think they got ripped off. But if an MMA fight ends in 90 seconds, many people think that's amazing? I have seen some of these MMA events that are over at the drop of a hat, and so many people think that's great, even if they paid $50 for it. But for boxing, you pay $50 for a PPV that ends in 90 seconds, people think that sucks.

Personally, for boxing, I like the fighter to get some rounds in. I love knockouts but I don't want the fights to be over too quickly. I would like 3 rounds of action or more for my money in most cases. And of course, if a fight is a two-sided 12 round war, or in the earlier years of 15 rounds, what MMA purist would not love to see something like that!? Now, the MMA contests even at non-title duration are too short. Only 3 rounds for non-title fights? You just get into a fight, and its over.

The 5-round title matches are a little better. But I like the longer distance durations that boxing provides. It demonstrates the importance of endurance and stamina in conditioning. MMA guys don't have to have that long of an endurance clip because their fights are so much shorter. Longer distances, are the true measuring sticks of boxing champions. And MMA, no matter what spin you put on it, can't say that.

I'd like to hear how other people feel about this.

Jack

[Keith]

I dont have a problem with both mma and boxing being classified as sport but...

My brother and I had this discussion not long ago and he shifted my opinion on it. His argument was that mma was much more combat and boxing was much more sport.

He maintains that a sport is a competition between 2 or more people all doing the essentially the same thing, as is the case with boxing... 2 people engaging in a competition to see who can land and defend against punches. He pointed out that this is not the case with mma, that it pits 2 guys who could, and often are, doing vastly different things to each other... and because of this fundamental difference from boxing, mma becomes much more about the punishment inflicted rather then who is better at a particular skill.

I gave some thought to his observation and believe it has some merit. I have seen few mma fights where I felt the winner had not inflicted the most damage during the fight. I see boxers win fights having not inflicted more damage then their opponent much more often.

[Run and Gun Game...]

I dont have a problem with both mma and boxing being classified as sport but...

My brother and I had this discussion not long ago and he shifted my opinion on it. His argument was that mma was much more combat and boxing was much more sport.

He maintains that a sport is a competition between 2 or more people all doing the essentially the same thing, as is the case with boxing... 2 people engaging in a competition to see who can land and defend against punches. He pointed out that this is not the case with mma, that it pits 2 guys who could, and often are, doing vastly different things to each other... and because of this fundamental difference from boxing, mma becomes much more about the punishment inflicted rather then who is better at a particular skill.

Ever watched a fight between a boxer and a power puncher? Two guys doing differant things to attempt to win a fight. If your brother educates himself on MMA he will realize there are no more karate guys v/s wrestling v/s bjj...ect...ect...ect...

Its called MMA for a reason, The athletes crosstrain in many differant disciplines now. Just because a fighter got his start in K1 or Wrestling or BJJ, they are far from being type cast in that roll now. All World class fighters are crosstrained in numberous fighting styles.


its not what the ufc was when hoyce gracie first came onto the scene.

My main point being, the fighters like boxers have a style they are comfortable fighting in. Just because a fighter prefers grappling because of a wrestling or BJJ background, does not mean they lack the ability to fight in another style if they choose. Think Bj Penn and Anderson Silva.

I love how some of my fellow boxing fans have decided that Boxing is a "more refined sport" with their noses in the air. You can be hardcore fans of both. I disagree with it attracting differant fans as well. Almost all boxing fans love MMA, and MMA attracts fans who can no longer stomache boxing.

That being said we can do without the farces that are determined before they are fought, ala Hopkins v/s Delahoya.