Replies

[caneman]

PBF better watch what he signs though as I don't see him fighting pass Pacman. Not sure why I say that but for $100 million, King will need 3-5 fights to make his $$$ back! Does anyone see him fighting more than 2-3 fights...I am having a hard time picturing that myself! Bring on Pacman vs PBF & fuck Margacheato & his cheating ass & his bullshit belt! Thoughts y'all?

[JD]

Arum has won the PR war by way of Julian Jackson like KO.

[PR316]

Arum has won the PR war by way of Julian Jackson like KO.

And the funny thing about it is that Floyd helped Arum do it to him.

He never stood up on his behalf. He ran and hid from the media behind his team, made excuses, and now he's got this circus going on with Don King. Throw in the fact that Floyd isn't exactly the most likeable guy in the sport, and Bob Arum wins this thing going away.

Its also obvious that Arum is having Pacquiao face the likes of Margarito, Cotto, and Clottey in large part because Mayweather refused to fight those guys. I look for Top Rank to milk the hell out of Pacquiao-Margarito and do everything in their power to make this an absolute smash because that will put Floyd at a significant disadvantage at the negotiating table. And if Pacquiao absolutely beats the bloody hell out of Margarito, Arum will not allow Floyd's spoiled ass to push his man around an inch.

Floyd is that poker player who's got a 2 and 7 offsuit and has been bluffing his way through the game and everyone secretly knows he's bluffing. His leverage is all but gone now. His act of "making smart business decisions" does not play anymore. Arum and Pacquiao proceeded to call Mayweather's bluff and Floyd folded. The same guy who talked on and on about "I wanna clean up boxing" refuses to fight the guy who's considered his biggest challenge and on top of it, his BIGGEST PAY DAY..

Not a good look, Floyd....(IMG:style_emoticons/default/nono.gif) Very poor.

There is no reason for this to not happen unless somebody wants it to NOT happen. Some say its Arum. I'm not so sure. Surely Bob must know that Pacquiao is not going to be fighting too much longer. I say Manny at most has 2 more years left in boxing before he dedicates himself to being a full time politician. Thats not a long time considering that PBF only fights once a year now. Why wouldn't he want to make this fight??.. The only reason I could think of his that he doesnt' like doing business with Mayweather but at the end of the day, money is money and Arum will do what he has to do to make that money.... So who???... Can't be Golden Boy.. They want to get rich too off this. We're talking the biggest fight in boxing history as far as MONEY goes right??... So who??... Who doesn't want Mayweather-Paquiao to happen??.. Who benefits most from Mayweather-Pacquiao not happening???....

Its not that much of a mystery, my friends. FLOYD MAYWEATHER, thats who.. Its not about the money. Floyd can make 20 plus million fighting somebody like Sergio Mora.. Floyd can make that kind of money fighting anybody he wants not named Pacquiao. And he knows that. So why turn down 40 plus million??...

Its all about that 0... Thats what this boils down to at the end of all the bullshit and smokescreens in the media. Floyd may not be scared of the man Pacquiao himself. But I truly believe Floyd is very afraid of losing. I don't think he could handle the mere thought of losing. Which is why as he's moved up in weight he's gotten more careful and selective about which fights to take. And since Floyd has come back, nothing's changed.

This whole thing with King may or may not be true but it doesn't matter. The fight won't happen simply because Floyd doesn't want it.

This post has been edited by PR316: Aug 9 2010, 11:49 AM

[D-MARV]

And the funny thing about it is that Floyd helped Arum do it to him.

About the only thing in this post that I agree with.

Its also obvious that Arum is having Pacquiao face the likes of Margarito, Cotto, and Clottey in large part because Mayweather refused to fight those guys.

Nope. Arum is tossing all these names in the ring with Pacquiao because it's all in-house pussy, it's called "Pimping". Arum is treating his stable like a hooker ring and Pacquiao just happens to be his number 1 bimbo.

I look for Top Rank to milk the hell out of Pacquiao-Margarito and do everything in their power to make this an absolute smash because that will put Floyd at a significant disadvantage at the negotiating table.

Let's see... Pacquiao smashes Margarito while Floyd smashed the guy who smashed Margarito first. Hmmmm... I'm not to sure how that gives Manny the edge at the negotiating table. If Pacquiao-Margarito can do over 1.5 million PPV buys then you would have a valid argument.

His leverage is all but gone now.

How? He just schooled that guy who Pacquiao BLATANTLY ducked.

Arum and Pacquiao proceeded to call Mayweather's bluff and Floyd folded.

Why didn't they call his bluff in January?

There is no reason for this to not happen unless somebody wants it to NOT happen. Some say its Arum. I'm not so sure. Surely Bob must know that Pacquiao is not going to be fighting too much longer. I say Manny at most has 2 more years left in boxing before he dedicates himself to being a full time politician.

This is very true... Certain individuals definitely don't want to see this fight happen at this moment for whatever reasons BUT Floyd wanted this fight on March 13.
and Yes, Bob Arum is aware that Pacquiao will likely hang them up after a couple of more fights which is exactly why Bob has been lining up "in house" fighters that have next to NO chance of beating Pacquiao.

Its not that much of a mystery, my friends. FLOYD MAYWEATHER, thats who.. Its not about the money. Floyd can make 20 plus million fighting somebody like Sergio Mora.. Floyd can make that kind of money fighting anybody he wants not named Pacquiao. And he knows that. So why turn down 40 plus million??...

Well, it is about the money. We're talking about a guy who calls himself "Money". You see, like Pacquiao, I only see Floyd fighting a couple of more times before he has to hang them up. There will be NO other paydays like Pacquiao available if he does not take this fight. Sure Floyd can make 15 million fighting the likes of Marquez or Mora but that's a HELLUVA lot less then 50 or even 60 million to fight Pacquiao. Floyd may be arrogant, annoying, and snobby but he's certainly not stupid. I find it hard to believe that Floyd will turn down 50 million dollars not to fight Pacquiao.

Its all about that 0... Thats what this boils down to at the end of all the bullshit and smokescreens in the media. Floyd may not be scared of the man Pacquiao himself. But I truly believe Floyd is very afraid of losing. I don't think he could handle the mere thought of losing.

Sure, Floyd puts a lot of stock in that "0". I think he likes Money more than he likes to be undefeated though.

Which is why as he's moved up in weight he's gotten more careful and selective about which fights to take. And since Floyd has come back, nothing's changed.

Floyd moved up in weight because that is where the money was at. He laid out his plan years ago. He's been chasing De La Hoya for a number of years. And what do you mean nothing's change? He came back and fought a guy that MANY claimed he ducked all these years.

This post has been edited by D-MARV: Aug 9 2010, 04:45 PM