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caneman
post Aug 7 2010, 11:43 AM
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PBF better watch what he signs though as I don't see him fighting pass Pacman. Not sure why I say that but for $100 million, King will need 3-5 fights to make his $$$ back! Does anyone see him fighting more than 2-3 fights...I am having a hard time picturing that myself! Bring on Pacman vs PBF & fuck Margacheato & his cheating ass & his bullshit belt! Thoughts y'all?
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post Aug 7 2010, 03:15 PM
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Arum has won the PR war by way of Julian Jackson like KO.
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post Aug 9 2010, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE (JD @ Aug 7 2010, 04:15 PM) *
Arum has won the PR war by way of Julian Jackson like KO.


And the funny thing about it is that Floyd helped Arum do it to him.

He never stood up on his behalf. He ran and hid from the media behind his team, made excuses, and now he's got this circus going on with Don King. Throw in the fact that Floyd isn't exactly the most likeable guy in the sport, and Bob Arum wins this thing going away.

Its also obvious that Arum is having Pacquiao face the likes of Margarito, Cotto, and Clottey in large part because Mayweather refused to fight those guys. I look for Top Rank to milk the hell out of Pacquiao-Margarito and do everything in their power to make this an absolute smash because that will put Floyd at a significant disadvantage at the negotiating table. And if Pacquiao absolutely beats the bloody hell out of Margarito, Arum will not allow Floyd's spoiled ass to push his man around an inch.

Floyd is that poker player who's got a 2 and 7 offsuit and has been bluffing his way through the game and everyone secretly knows he's bluffing. His leverage is all but gone now. His act of "making smart business decisions" does not play anymore. Arum and Pacquiao proceeded to call Mayweather's bluff and Floyd folded. The same guy who talked on and on about "I wanna clean up boxing" refuses to fight the guy who's considered his biggest challenge and on top of it, his BIGGEST PAY DAY..

Not a good look, Floyd....(IMG:style_emoticons/default/nono.gif) Very poor.

There is no reason for this to not happen unless somebody wants it to NOT happen. Some say its Arum. I'm not so sure. Surely Bob must know that Pacquiao is not going to be fighting too much longer. I say Manny at most has 2 more years left in boxing before he dedicates himself to being a full time politician. Thats not a long time considering that PBF only fights once a year now. Why wouldn't he want to make this fight??.. The only reason I could think of his that he doesnt' like doing business with Mayweather but at the end of the day, money is money and Arum will do what he has to do to make that money.... So who???... Can't be Golden Boy.. They want to get rich too off this. We're talking the biggest fight in boxing history as far as MONEY goes right??... So who??... Who doesn't want Mayweather-Paquiao to happen??.. Who benefits most from Mayweather-Pacquiao not happening???....

Its not that much of a mystery, my friends. FLOYD MAYWEATHER, thats who.. Its not about the money. Floyd can make 20 plus million fighting somebody like Sergio Mora.. Floyd can make that kind of money fighting anybody he wants not named Pacquiao. And he knows that. So why turn down 40 plus million??...

Its all about that 0... Thats what this boils down to at the end of all the bullshit and smokescreens in the media. Floyd may not be scared of the man Pacquiao himself. But I truly believe Floyd is very afraid of losing. I don't think he could handle the mere thought of losing. Which is why as he's moved up in weight he's gotten more careful and selective about which fights to take. And since Floyd has come back, nothing's changed.

This whole thing with King may or may not be true but it doesn't matter. The fight won't happen simply because Floyd doesn't want it.

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QUOTE (PR316 @ Aug 9 2010, 12:48 PM) *
And the funny thing about it is that Floyd helped Arum do it to him.

He never stood up on his behalf. He ran and hid from the media behind his team, made excuses, and now he's got this circus going on with Don King. Throw in the fact that Floyd isn't exactly the most likeable guy in the sport, and Bob Arum wins this thing going away.

Its also obvious that Arum is having Pacquiao face the likes of Margarito, Cotto, and Clottey in large part because Mayweather refused to fight those guys. I look for Top Rank to milk the hell out of Pacquiao-Margarito and do everything in their power to make this an absolute smash because that will put Floyd at a significant disadvantage at the negotiating table. And if Pacquiao absolutely beats the bloody hell out of Margarito, Arum will not allow Floyd's spoiled ass to push his man around an inch.

Floyd is that poker player who's got a 2 and 7 offsuit and has been bluffing his way through the game and everyone secretly knows he's bluffing. His leverage is all but gone now. His act of "making smart business decisions" does not play anymore. Arum and Pacquiao proceeded to call Mayweather's bluff and Floyd folded. The same guy who talked on and on about "I wanna clean up boxing" refuses to fight the guy who's considered his biggest challenge and on top of it, his BIGGEST PAY DAY..

Not a good look, Floyd....(IMG:style_emoticons/default/nono.gif) Very poor.

There is no reason for this to not happen unless somebody wants it to NOT happen. Some say its Arum. I'm not so sure. Surely Bob must know that Pacquiao is not going to be fighting too much longer. I say Manny at most has 2 more years left in boxing before he dedicates himself to being a full time politician. Thats not a long time considering that PBF only fights once a year now. Why wouldn't he want to make this fight??.. The only reason I could think of his that he doesnt' like doing business with Mayweather but at the end of the day, money is money and Arum will do what he has to do to make that money.... So who???... Can't be Golden Boy.. They want to get rich too off this. We're talking the biggest fight in boxing history as far as MONEY goes right??... So who??... Who doesn't want Mayweather-Paquiao to happen??.. Who benefits most from Mayweather-Pacquiao not happening???....

Its not that much of a mystery, my friends. FLOYD MAYWEATHER, thats who.. Its not about the money. Floyd can make 20 plus million fighting somebody like Sergio Mora.. Floyd can make that kind of money fighting anybody he wants not named Pacquiao. And he knows that. So why turn down 40 plus million??...

Its all about that 0... Thats what this boils down to at the end of all the bullshit and smokescreens in the media. Floyd may not be scared of the man Pacquiao himself. But I truly believe Floyd is very afraid of losing. I don't think he could handle the mere thought of losing. Which is why as he's moved up in weight he's gotten more careful and selective about which fights to take. And since Floyd has come back, nothing's changed.

This whole thing with King may or may not be true but it doesn't matter. The fight won't happen simply because Floyd doesn't want it.

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post Aug 9 2010, 03:23 PM
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Dude, sorry to tell you. That this point of view you have is absolute fantasy. I mean, I've read really bad commentary before, but dam. This really is the silliest shit I've ever read. The man that holds the cards is the man that earns the biggest paydays. And he ain't with Top Rank! Also, as for King. I'm sure Arum would welcome his old nemesis to the negotiating table because "with DON KING, WE KNOW THE FIGHT WILL BE MADE". See man, it's time for scrubs like you to really open there eyes and get off Manny's crotch! The fact of the matter is that both of these fighters badly want this fight. The politics of dancing are so strong that Floyd is looking for another way to get this fight made, because his current group obviously can't get it done. So Floydie is being proactive in his own way to make it happen on his terms. Go Floyd!! Fuck the Naysayers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Aug 9 2010, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Aug 9 2010, 04:23 PM) *
Dude, sorry to tell you. That this point of view you have is absolute fantasy. I mean, I've read really bad commentary before, but dam. This really is the silliest shit I've ever read. The man that holds the cards is the man that earns the biggest paydays. And he ain't with Top Rank! Also, as for King. I'm sure Arum would welcome his old nemesis to the negotiating table because "with DON KING, WE KNOW THE FIGHT WILL BE MADE". See man, it's time for scrubs like you to really open there eyes and get off Manny's crotch! The fact of the matter is that both of these fighters badly want this fight. The politics of dancing are so strong that Floyd is looking for another way to get this fight made, because his current group obviously can't get it done. So Floydie is being proactive in his own way to make it happen on his terms. Go Floyd!! Fuck the Naysayers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Stop being a clown.

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- caneman   Just heard from a solid that PBF & King...   Aug 7 2010, 11:43 AM
- - JLUVBABY   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 7 2010, 11:43 AM) PB...   Aug 7 2010, 11:59 AM
- - Method   Assuming it's TRUE, it will be VERY VERY inter...   Aug 7 2010, 12:45 PM
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|- - PR316   QUOTE (JD @ Aug 7 2010, 04:15 PM) Arum ha...   Aug 9 2010, 11:48 AM
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|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (PR316 @ Aug 9 2010, 12:48 PM) And ...   Aug 9 2010, 03:16 PM
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