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caneman
post Aug 7 2010, 11:43 AM
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PBF better watch what he signs though as I don't see him fighting pass Pacman. Not sure why I say that but for $100 million, King will need 3-5 fights to make his $$$ back! Does anyone see him fighting more than 2-3 fights...I am having a hard time picturing that myself! Bring on Pacman vs PBF & fuck Margacheato & his cheating ass & his bullshit belt! Thoughts y'all?
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post Aug 9 2010, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 10 2010, 02:07 PM) *
No, Hatton had no affiliation with GBP. The funny thing is Arum proposed Mayweather/Hatton while Mayweather was still a TR fighter.

I might try to watch a stream of Pacquiao/Margarito, I don't really care to see the Tijuana Light Breeze get embarrassed. I think it does the same as the Clottey fight, maybe a little better.


Are you sure? I was sure that Hatton signed to GBP at least, and I also thought that they promoted or had something to do with the Mayweather-Hatton fight.
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post Aug 10 2010, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE (Fitz @ Aug 10 2010, 12:20 AM) *
Are you sure? I was sure that Hatton signed to GBP at least, and I also thought that they promoted or had something to do with the Mayweather-Hatton fight.

Golden Boy had EVERYTHING to do with that fight.

http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/media/2...2.8.07_date.htm

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=12588

I don't know why Hype is trying to make it seem otherwise...lol...fess up Ben...why are you trying to hijack the narrative? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 10 2010, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (Spyder @ Aug 10 2010, 01:13 AM) *
Golden Boy had EVERYTHING to do with that fight.

http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/media/2...2.8.07_date.htm

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=12588

I don't know why Hype is trying to make it seem otherwise...lol...fess up Ben...why are you trying to hijack the narrative? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I really don't understand why people can't READ EVERYTHING that I post before addressing me.

I NEVER SAID Golden Boy Promotions didn't have anything to do with the fight.

Like I already stated:

Golden Boy had something to do with the promotion because ever since Floyd split with Arum, Golden Boy has sold their promotional services to him.

What I DID SAY was that Ricky Hatton WAS NOT a Golden Boy Promotions fighters at the time he fought Floyd Mayweather.

The question that JD asked was when was the last time Floyd Mayweather faced a non-GBP fighter? The answer is Ricky Hatton!

If you recall (do your research...Google it, Bing it...or whatever your choice of search engines may be), Ricky Hatton was with Dennis Hobson just prior to the Mayweather fight. Then they had a falling out and, from what I recall, Hatton dumped him and was basically a free agent. He did not sign with Golden Boy Promotions until AFTER he had already fought Floyd Mayweather. Golden Boy Promotions sent out a lengthy press release to make the announcement in March of 2008, which again, was AFTER the Mayweather fight.

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content2162.html

I REPEAT, RICKY HATTON DID NOT SIGN WITH GOLDEN BOY UNTIL AFTER HIS FIGHT WITH FLOYD MAYWEATHER

Please re-read the above referenced press release and pay special attention to the part that reads:

Hatton's first fight under this new promotional contract will be announced at a later date.

This was never about WHO promoted the event...but instead about who the last non-GBP fighter was that Floyd faced. And like I said, the answer is Ricky Hatton.

But whatever.
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post Aug 10 2010, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 10 2010, 12:23 PM) *
I really don't understand why people can't READ EVERYTHING that I post before addressing me.

I NEVER SAID Golden Boy Promotions didn't have anything to do with the fight.

Like I already stated:

Golden Boy had something to do with the promotion because ever since Floyd split with Arum, Golden Boy has sold their promotional services to him.

What I DID SAY was that Ricky Hatton WAS NOT a Golden Boy Promotions fighters at the time he fought Floyd Mayweather.

The question that JD asked was when was the last time Floyd Mayweather faced a non-GBP fighter? The answer is Ricky Hatton!

If you recall (do your research...Google it, Bing it...or whatever your choice of search engines may be), Ricky Hatton was with Dennis Hobson just prior to the Mayweather fight. Then they had a falling out and, from what I recall, Hatton dumped him and was basically a free agent. He did not sign with Golden Boy Promotions until AFTER he had already fought Floyd Mayweather. Golden Boy Promotions sent out a lengthy press release to make the announcement in March of 2008, which again, was AFTER the Mayweather fight.

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content2162.html

I REPEAT, RICKY HATTON DID NOT SIGN WITH GOLDEN BOY UNTIL AFTER HIS FIGHT WITH FLOYD MAYWEATHER

Please re-read the above referenced press release and pay special attention to the part that reads:

Hatton's first fight under this new promotional contract will be announced at a later date.

This was never about WHO promoted the event...but instead about who the last non-GBP fighter was that Floyd faced. And like I said, the answer is Ricky Hatton.

But whatever.

I seriously don't see the reason to argue about semantics Hype...it makes no sense, and weakens your other points.

Ricky Hatton fought Floyd Mayweather on a GBP card. Semantically speaking, Hatton signed a one fight deal with GBP to fight Floyd Mayweather. Whether that makes you want to call him a Golden Boy fighter or not means absolutely nothing. Same with signing a multi-fight deal, which is what he did immediately after the fight.

So I don't really see the point in claiming that Ricky Hatton was not a GBP fighter at the time that he fought Floyd Mayweather. Is it the 1 fight contract? Is that your sticking point? I mean, was Brett Favre not really a Jet because he only played in New York for 1 season?

It's pretty easy for everyone to see that GBP used the Mayweather fight as a chance to extend their relationship with Hatton. Extend being the operative word. If they failed to deliver on that fight, then Ricky could do the same as Favre did and play for someone else the next season. But the fact still remains that the two were in business with each other for that fight.

I don't care how you want to slice it...whether signing a one fight contract makes you a fighter for a promotional banner, or if it takes a multiple fight contract for you to consider someone a certain "promoter's" fighter...their role and purpose is exactly the same...to sell the damn fight!

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post Aug 10 2010, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (Spyder @ Aug 10 2010, 01:46 PM) *
I seriously don't see the reason to argue about semantics Hype...it makes no sense, and weakens your other points.

Ricky Hatton fought Floyd Mayweather on a GBP card. Semantically speaking, Hatton signed a one fight deal with GBP to fight Floyd Mayweather. Whether that makes you want to call him a Golden Boy fighter or not means absolutely nothing. Same with signing a multi-fight deal, which is what he did immediately after the fight.

So I don't really see the point in claiming that Ricky Hatton was not a GBP fighter at the time that he fought Floyd Mayweather. Is it the 1 fight contract? Is that your sticking point? I mean, was Brett Favre not really a Jet because he only played in New York for 1 season?

It's pretty easy for everyone to see that GBP used the Mayweather fight as a chance to extend their relationship with Hatton. Extend being the operative word. If they failed to deliver on that fight, then Ricky could do the same as Favre did and play for someone else the next season. But the fact still remains that the two were in business with each other for that fight.

I don't care how you want to slice it...whether signing a one fight contract makes you a fighter for a promotional banner, or if it takes a multiple fight contract for you to consider someone a certain "promoter's" fighter...their role and purpose is exactly the same...to sell the damn fight!


But that's the thing...I'm NOT arguing semantics...on the contrary, YOU (and a few other people) are.

Was Ricky Hatton signed with Golden Boy Promotions on December 8, 2007? NO!

Was Ricky Hatton a Golden Boy Promotions fighter on December 8, 2007? NO!

Now, was Golden Boy Promotions wanting to sign him? Absolutely!

Did they end up signing him? Absolutely!

But if the question is when was the last time Floyd Mayweather fought a non-GBP fighter, then the answer is simple....December 8, 2007!

That's not arguing semantics! That's just fact!

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Now, if you REALLY want to argue semantics, technically, we can talk about how Ricky Hatton, Bernard Hopkins, Shane Mosley, Winky Wright, David Haye and Juan Manuel Marquez ARE NOT really Golden Boy fighters...unlike Victor Ortiz, Saul Alvarez, Daniel Jacobs and Sergio Mora, who actually are contractually bound to Golden Boy Promotions.

If you really, really, REALLY want to arguments semantics, then I can also say Manny Pacquiao is a Golden Boy fighter as well.

Care to continue the discussion?

On a side note, have you actually seen a fight contract before? I have. I've also seen a Golden Boy Promotions contract before and I can guarantee you that Shane Mosley, who IS NOT really a Golden Boy Promotions fighter, is free to walk away and fight anyone he chooses WITHOUT Golden Boy Promotions being involved in any way, shape or form. I'm quite sure Bernard Hopkins, a "partner" with Golden Boy Promotions...the "President" of Golden Boy Promotions East (whatever the fuck that is) would co-sign that statement.

Like I said, we can REALLY talk semantics and break things down if you want, but in my opinion, this is not the thread to do it in.

But I stand by my answer!
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