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post Aug 7 2010, 11:43 AM
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PBF better watch what he signs though as I don't see him fighting pass Pacman. Not sure why I say that but for $100 million, King will need 3-5 fights to make his $$$ back! Does anyone see him fighting more than 2-3 fights...I am having a hard time picturing that myself! Bring on Pacman vs PBF & fuck Margacheato & his cheating ass & his bullshit belt! Thoughts y'all?
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post Aug 10 2010, 06:50 PM
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So agruing Hatton is not a Goldenboy fighter is NOT arguing semantics, but arguing Hopkins, Mosley, and all the rest of them arent GBP fighters IS semantics? I'm perplexed...
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post Aug 10 2010, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE (Method @ Aug 10 2010, 06:50 PM) *
So agruing Hatton is not a Goldenboy fighter is NOT arguing semantics, but arguing Hopkins, Mosley, and all the rest of them arent GBP fighters IS semantics? I'm perplexed...


Perhaps you're perplexed because nobody is arguing that Hatton is not a Golden Boy fighter...at least I'm certainly not.

The question was who was the last non-GBP fighter that Mayweather fought...and my answer was Ricky Hatton because on December 8, 2007, when Mayweather vs. Hatton took place, Ricky Hatton WAS NOT a Golden Boy Promotions fighter. That's fact. There are no semantics to argue regarding that. Ricky Hatton did not become the same thing that Hopkins, Mosley, and all the rest of them are until months after he fought Floyd Mayweather....and during that time, he could have just as easily signed with Top Rank, Dan Goossen, Lou DiBella or whoever.

Now AFTER I explained all of that, I said I'll gladly argue the semantics about whether or not Hopkins, Mosley, Haye, Marquez, AND Hatton are really GBP fighters, but that should be in a different thread under a different topic. But if anyone wants to get a head start and start doing some research now, Miguel Cotto is a Top Rank fighter who has his own promotional company, but you won't see him signing with any other promoters any time soon because he's under contract with Top Rank. On the contrary, Bernard Hopkins, Winky Wright, David Haye, etc. are all "GBP fighters" who also have their own promotional companies, but they're free to walk away from GBP any time they want to and sign with another promoter because they're not contractually bound to GBP (which is something both BHop AND Winky have hinted at doing in the past). So there's a big difference there. Victor Ortiz, another GBP fighter, does not have the same luxury as Mosley, Hopkins, Haye, etc. because, unlike them, he IS contractually bound. But again, I had no intention into getting into all of that. Like I said, that's a discussion for a different thread. But I'm not arguing any semantics regarding whether or not Hatton was GBP fighter when he fought Floyd because...well...because he wasn't....that's fact.
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- caneman   Just heard from a solid that PBF & King...   Aug 7 2010, 11:43 AM
- - JLUVBABY   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 7 2010, 11:43 AM) PB...   Aug 7 2010, 11:59 AM
- - Method   Assuming it's TRUE, it will be VERY VERY inter...   Aug 7 2010, 12:45 PM
|- - SENTRAL   QUOTE (Method @ Aug 7 2010, 01:45 PM) Ass...   Aug 7 2010, 01:28 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (Method @ Aug 7 2010, 12:45 PM) Par...   Aug 7 2010, 02:38 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (Method @ Aug 7 2010, 01:45 PM) Ass...   Aug 7 2010, 01:11 PM
- - thehype   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 7 2010, 11:43 AM) PB...   Aug 7 2010, 02:37 PM
- - Method   Ahhhahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaaha. Hype. B...   Aug 7 2010, 02:40 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (Method @ Aug 7 2010, 02:40 PM) Ahh...   Aug 7 2010, 02:58 PM
- - thehype   On a side note, if he IS seriously entertaining a ...   Aug 7 2010, 02:42 PM
- - D-MARV   That contract is about as real as Pacquiao being A...   Aug 7 2010, 02:51 PM
- - JD   Arum has won the PR war by way of Julian Jackson l...   Aug 7 2010, 03:15 PM
|- - PR316   QUOTE (JD @ Aug 7 2010, 04:15 PM) Arum ha...   Aug 9 2010, 11:48 AM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (PR316 @ Aug 9 2010, 12:48 PM) This...   Aug 9 2010, 01:59 PM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (PR316 @ Aug 9 2010, 12:48 PM) And ...   Aug 9 2010, 03:16 PM
||- - sweetscientist1   Dude, sorry to tell you. That this point of view y...   Aug 9 2010, 03:23 PM
||- - Keith   QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Aug 9 2010, 04:2...   Aug 9 2010, 08:46 PM
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||- - D-MARV   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Aug 9 2010, 05:02 PM) ...   Aug 9 2010, 04:04 PM
|- - D-MARV   QUOTE (PR316 @ Aug 9 2010, 12:48 PM) And ...   Aug 9 2010, 04:42 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 7 2010, 03:37 PM) Wh...   Aug 7 2010, 05:32 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 7 2010, 05:32 PM) I ...   Aug 9 2010, 11:10 AM
- - oozemcbuck   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 7 2010, 06:32 PM) I ...   Aug 7 2010, 07:51 PM
- - Method   Hype, nice post. Agree with it all. You pretty m...   Aug 7 2010, 09:58 PM
- - Method   Not for nothing, but you'd think w DK's ex...   Aug 7 2010, 10:41 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (oozemcbuck @ Aug 7 2010, 08:51 PM)...   Aug 8 2010, 06:28 AM
- - Jack 1000   QUOTE King contracts fail to bamboozle me anymore....   Aug 8 2010, 01:36 PM
- - Method   There is NO WAY Floyd can NOT understand that, jus...   Aug 9 2010, 08:47 AM
- - Snoop   After seeing all the moves, the negotiation is alm...   Aug 9 2010, 11:09 AM
- - thehype   I think all that could have been posted in another...   Aug 9 2010, 12:05 PM
|- - Nay_Sayer   QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 9 2010, 12:05 PM) On...   Aug 9 2010, 01:33 PM
- - Keith   I'm not even sure I want to see them fight any...   Aug 9 2010, 12:51 PM
- - D-MARV   After the fight in St Louis this past weekend, Flo...   Aug 9 2010, 02:03 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (D-MARV @ Aug 9 2010, 02:03 PM...   Aug 9 2010, 11:49 PM
- - JD   Interestingly, Iole reported that Pacquiao - Cotto...   Aug 9 2010, 08:55 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (JD @ Aug 9 2010, 08:55 PM) Interes...   Aug 9 2010, 11:41 PM
|- - JD   QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 10 2010, 12:41 AM) C...   Aug 10 2010, 05:41 AM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (JD @ Aug 10 2010, 06:41 AM) I don...   Aug 10 2010, 11:46 AM
|- - JD   QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 10 2010, 12:46 PM) I...   Aug 10 2010, 12:06 PM
- - D-MARV   Did Hatton have any affiliation with Golden Boy? I...   Aug 9 2010, 09:50 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (D-MARV @ Aug 9 2010, 10:50 PM...   Aug 9 2010, 11:07 PM
- - Fitz   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 10 2010, 02:07 PM...   Aug 9 2010, 11:20 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (Fitz @ Aug 9 2010, 11:20 PM) Are y...   Aug 9 2010, 11:46 PM
|- - Spyder   QUOTE (Fitz @ Aug 10 2010, 12:20 AM) Are ...   Aug 10 2010, 12:13 AM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (Spyder @ Aug 10 2010, 01:13 AM) Go...   Aug 10 2010, 11:23 AM
|- - Spyder   QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 10 2010, 12:23 PM) I...   Aug 10 2010, 12:46 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (Spyder @ Aug 10 2010, 01:46 PM) I ...   Aug 10 2010, 04:56 PM
|- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 11 2010, 07:56 AM) I...   Aug 10 2010, 06:05 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Aug 10 2010, 06:05 PM)...   Aug 10 2010, 08:54 PM
- - Fitz   lol   Aug 10 2010, 12:29 AM
- - caneman   QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 9 2010, 01:05 PM) ...   Aug 10 2010, 11:13 AM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 10 2010, 12:13 PM) I...   Aug 10 2010, 11:54 AM
- - caneman   QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 10 2010, 12:23 PM) I...   Aug 10 2010, 11:30 AM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 10 2010, 12:30 PM) I...   Aug 10 2010, 11:59 AM
- - caneman   Ben, I might not always agree with you but you are...   Aug 10 2010, 11:49 AM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 10 2010, 12:49 PM) B...   Aug 10 2010, 12:02 PM
- - caneman   I stand corrected   Aug 10 2010, 12:02 PM
- - Method   I really have no problem w Arum making these fight...   Aug 10 2010, 12:12 PM
|- - salvador   QUOTE (Method @ Aug 10 2010, 12:12 PM) I ...   Aug 10 2010, 12:27 PM
- - TRU   This comes down to technicalities... Hatton was BA...   Aug 10 2010, 12:14 PM
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|- - TRU   QUOTE (Method @ Aug 10 2010, 01:18 PM) Ex...   Aug 10 2010, 12:21 PM
- - gravytrain   GBP promoted the event with Mayweather Promotions....   Aug 10 2010, 01:36 PM
|- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 11 2010, 04:36 AM...   Aug 10 2010, 06:00 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Aug 10 2010, 06:00 PM)...   Aug 10 2010, 09:13 PM
- - JD   It was a rhetorical question...I, like many others...   Aug 10 2010, 01:47 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (JD @ Aug 10 2010, 02:47 PM) It was...   Aug 10 2010, 04:59 PM
|- - JD   QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 10 2010, 05:59 PM) Y...   Aug 10 2010, 06:09 PM
|- - gravytrain   No matter what banner Hatton was fighting under I ...   Aug 10 2010, 06:55 PM
||- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 11 2010, 09:55 AM...   Aug 10 2010, 07:29 PM
||- - gravytrain   QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Aug 10 2010, 08:29 PM)...   Aug 10 2010, 07:38 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (JD @ Aug 10 2010, 06:09 PM) OK...W...   Aug 10 2010, 09:19 PM
|- - JD   QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 10 2010, 10:19 PM) B...   Aug 10 2010, 09:42 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (JD @ Aug 10 2010, 09:42 PM) We alr...   Aug 10 2010, 10:07 PM
- - Method   Agreed.   Aug 10 2010, 01:55 PM
- - Fitz   I think everyone understood the point with Hatton/...   Aug 10 2010, 06:27 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (Fitz @ Aug 10 2010, 06:27 PM) I th...   Aug 10 2010, 09:30 PM
- - The CEO   Like I texted you the other day, JD...regardless o...   Aug 10 2010, 06:29 PM
|- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE (The CEO @ Aug 11 2010, 09:29 AM) M...   Aug 10 2010, 06:48 PM
- - caneman   Exactly right bro! IMO anyhow!   Aug 10 2010, 06:29 PM
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- - Method   So agruing Hatton is not a Goldenboy fighter is NO...   Aug 10 2010, 06:50 PM
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- - Fitz   Double post.   Aug 10 2010, 08:27 PM
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