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> Just heard from a solid that PBF & King..., have signed a $100 million contract!
caneman
post Aug 7 2010, 11:43 AM
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PBF better watch what he signs though as I don't see him fighting pass Pacman. Not sure why I say that but for $100 million, King will need 3-5 fights to make his $$$ back! Does anyone see him fighting more than 2-3 fights...I am having a hard time picturing that myself! Bring on Pacman vs PBF & fuck Margacheato & his cheating ass & his bullshit belt! Thoughts y'all?
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post Aug 10 2010, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 11 2010, 12:51 PM) *
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Yeah...okay. For some reason, I don't remember too many people complaining about having to "deal with" it. In fact, I could have sworn people couldn't wait to see it.

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Pacquiao vs. Clottey or Pacquiao vs. Margarito sound more like fights that people have to "deal with".

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I didn't say people complained. I said it was a fight people could 'deal with it'. When the expression is used, it normally means that they can deal with it without much complaint. That is what I said, people were able to deal with, they didn't kick up a stink because it wasn't the worst fight. But then, don't go to other lengths and try suggest it was a fight people were screaming for, because it wasn't at that time. Maybe when Mayweather and Hatton were at 140, but at the time the fight happened. It wasn't a highly demanded fight, it was a fight people were able to deal with it.

By the way, you should hate evenly. How thoughtful of you to harp on about Pacquiao-Clottey/Margarito but remain silent about him fighting Marquez. How does it feel that even Margarito/Clottey still probably ended up as a more credible fight than Marquez.
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Hate on both, they are both bad as each other, don't play favourites.


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post Aug 10 2010, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE (Fitz @ Aug 10 2010, 10:56 PM) *
I didn't say people complained. I said it was a fight people could 'deal with it'. When the expression is used, it normally means that they can deal with it without much complaint. That is what I said, people were able to deal with, they didn't kick up a stink because it wasn't the worst fight. But then, don't go to other lengths and try suggest it was a fight people were screaming for, because it wasn't at that time. Maybe when Mayweather and Hatton were at 140, but at the time the fight happened. It wasn't a highly demanded fight, it was a fight people were able to deal with it.

By the way, you should hate evenly. How thoughtful of you to harp on about Pacquiao-Clottey/Margarito but remain silent about him fighting Marquez. How does it feel that even Margarito/Clottey still probably ended up as a more credible fight than Marquez.
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Hate on both, they are both bad as each other, don't play favourites.


Saying that people could "deal with it" implies, at least to me, that they were hoping for a much better fight, but because they couldn't get that fight, they simply settled for this one because it wasn't so bad and it wasn't so great....they just chose to "deal with it" because it was so-so and, like you said, they didn't have much to complain about. Now, I'm not saying or suggesting that people were "screaming for it" (not sure where you got that assumption from, as all I said was that people couldn't wait for it...which was true...PPV numbers don't lie, so obviously, there were a lot of people who couldn't wait to see it), but I do think it was at least one of the biggest fights that could have been made at the time.

I mean, how many other fights at the time around the division were bigger? Margarito had JUUUUUST lost to Paul Williams two months after Floyd fought Oscar, so surely you're not going to tell me that Mayweather should have fought Margarito instead of Hatton. I mean, I guess he could have fought Cotto...maybe Mosley....sure, those would have been big fights too, but were they really that much bigger or that much more anticipated than a fight with Ricky Hatton...a fight that people had been wanting to see ever since Hatton beat Tszyu in 2005? I mean, we ARE talking about two undefeated fighters...two fighters that most people had ranked in their top 10 P4P lists, right? Were Cotto and Mosley ranked in your Top 10 at the time. Were they top 5? Hell, I think some people (certainly NOT me) may have even had Hatton as high as 4...so I don't know if I would act like it was just some "ho-hum" fight that people simply chose to "deal with" because they had to. If Mayweather vs. Mosley was MORE anticipated at the time, I'm quite sure Floyd would have LOVED to fight him then for the much bigger payday (would Mosley have even demanded the same type of purse split as Hatton), no?

I'm just saying, I don't know if I would say Mayweather vs. Hatton was just some "ho-hum, we'll deal with it" type of fight at the time. I mean, Hatton vs. Collazo was a "deal with it" type of fight...just like Pacquiao vs. Margarito and Pacquiao vs. Clottey are "deal with it" type of fights, which is the reason why I even mentioned them bro. I don't bring those fights up because I "hate" them or have "hate" for Pacquiao. On the contrary, I'm looking forward to Pacquiao vs. Margarito because either way it goes, it's going to be entertaining and I'm going to LOVE the outcome. If Pacquiao beats the shit out of Margarito, that's great, because quite frankly, he deserves a beatdown for 1) even trying that shit against Mosley and 2) for possibly doing it to other fighters, like Cotto. On the flip, if Margarito wins, hey, that's great too because all this talk about Mayweather vs. Pacquiao will be gone...POOF....just like that, and quite frankly, I think that would be the funniest shit in the world to happen to some motherfuckers that are already rich as shit, but still greedy as fuck (and that goes across the aboard to everyone involved). But it ain't about playing favorites nor did I "harp" on Pacquiao-Clottey/Margarito. Those were simply the first two fights that popped up in my head...the first two fights, involving a big name, that I remembered which I would consider being "deal with it" type of fights. So okay...I could have easily said De La Hoya vs. Forbes, De La Hoya vs. Sturm, Cotto vs. Jennings, Hatton vs. Lazcano, Pacquiao vs. Diaz, Hopkins vs. Ornelas...and yes...sure...why not....Mayweather vs. Marquez, Mayweather vs. Baldomir, Mayweather vs. Mitchell, or fuck it...even Mayweather vs. Gatti. ALL OF THOSE...sure...no problem...I'll agree and gladly call them ALL "deal with it" fights (although Mayweather vs. Marquez still kind of sticks out from the bunch...at least one of the better anticipated of the group)....BUT Mayweather vs. Hatton....NAAAAAH....I don't think it falls into that same category.

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I mean, if it does, then shit, go ahead and throw Pacquiao vs. Hatton into that category too.

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If it wasn't a highly anticipated fight, I don't know how the hell the PPV numbers did so well. Obviously somebody was anticipating it...must've just been those dumb Brits who actually thought Hatton had a chance.

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AGAIN, not saying it was the MOST anticipated...like a Mayweather vs. Paquiao or Mayweather vs. De La Hoya...but it was CERTAINLY ONE OF THE BEST fights that could've been made at the time.

Now Pacquiao vs. De La Hoya on the other hand...that was DEFINITELY a "deal with it" type of fight....that one DEFINITELY fits your definition of a fight that "they can deal with without much complaint."

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Oh, but wait...some people did complain about it. Shit! So what does that make THAT fight?

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Maybe a "deal with it, but the result shocked me" type of fight?

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- caneman   Just heard from a solid that PBF & King...   Aug 7 2010, 11:43 AM
- - JLUVBABY   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 7 2010, 11:43 AM) PB...   Aug 7 2010, 11:59 AM
- - Method   Assuming it's TRUE, it will be VERY VERY inter...   Aug 7 2010, 12:45 PM
|- - SENTRAL   QUOTE (Method @ Aug 7 2010, 01:45 PM) Ass...   Aug 7 2010, 01:28 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (Method @ Aug 7 2010, 12:45 PM) Par...   Aug 7 2010, 02:38 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (Method @ Aug 7 2010, 01:45 PM) Ass...   Aug 7 2010, 01:11 PM
- - thehype   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 7 2010, 11:43 AM) PB...   Aug 7 2010, 02:37 PM
- - Method   Ahhhahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaaha. Hype. B...   Aug 7 2010, 02:40 PM
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- - JD   Arum has won the PR war by way of Julian Jackson l...   Aug 7 2010, 03:15 PM
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|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (PR316 @ Aug 9 2010, 12:48 PM) And ...   Aug 9 2010, 03:16 PM
||- - sweetscientist1   Dude, sorry to tell you. That this point of view y...   Aug 9 2010, 03:23 PM
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