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[Warlord]

Wow, I was just about to talk about how shitty Hughes was looking and then he ROCKS Almeida with a left hook and then chokes him out with a front choke. WOW.

[Run and Gun Game...]

I personally believe the people who follow the fights in boxing or mma, on boards like this are as well, if not more educated about the fighting sports than many of those who hold a job at a magazine writing about fighting.

You believe because a writer calls someone the GOAT it makes it so? They are more qualified than the majority of educated fight fans to make that decision? Their Decision to major in journalism classes somehow made them be able to better break down a fighter, than many here that have huge fight collections and have followed and researched fighters for years?



Look at this thread, how many are agreeing with you? I would put the opinions of almost every mma fan i talk to, and the members of this board over a magazine writer. Writing for a mag does not make you a MMA god or the final authority.


And to be honest I would rather be Fedor. Silvas comeback consisted of sonnen slipping up and giving up a submission. Silva got his ass handed to him. Something that has not ever happened to Fedor. If Silva had came back and knocked out sonnen i would have been much more impressed. Again the comeback was more of sonnens flaws than silvas great fighting ability.

but im not here just to defend fedor, BJ penn, Randy Couture are also ahead of silva based on competition and accomplishments. Did Couture move to heavyweight and win the title twice? yes he did Many times outweighed by at least 40 pds. Did Couture Dominate a kid who was considered the best 205er in the world in tito ortiz? yes he did

BJ penn did lose to Pulver early in his career, yet you claimed it was his prime, lol. Not even close. That was before BJ was even taking the sport seriously and training. But Ill tell ya what he did do. He moved up and beat a much bigger and stronger champion in Matt Huges.

Who has Silva beat that is on par with Matt Huges? Who has he beat on par with a prime Tito Ortiz? Who has he beat on par with Chuck Liddel for that matter? Who has he beat on par with Vitor Belfort?

Dont give me forrest griffen either or rich franklin, both are b level fighters. Their biggest wins came over fighters close to retirement

Im not talking ranked fighters either. All top level fighters fight ranked fighters. Who has he beat that is considered an A level great fighter?

Who has Silva beat that is considered a legend of the sport?....................

Nobody.

Silva is a fabrication of the UFC Hype machine.

You Still didnt answer my question, you completely ducked it in fact. So I ask again

Why are Dana White and Ed Sorros running as fast as they can from giving sonnen a much deserved rematch? Their Hyped house of cards almost came crumbling down.

Please give an honest answer.

Any true champion worth his salt would want to fight the rematch and prove the beat down he was taking was just a fabrication.

Could Roy Jones be considered the p4p king once he got the first fight decision v/s tarver? nope Even though he won the fight.

Even for those that thought Silva was the p4p #1 fighter right now before this fight. His last 2 preformances have destroyed that throne for him. Any credible list will have him slipping a few spots. Its not just one poor preformance now, its 2 in a row.

Goat, lmao..... He hasnt beaten anyone yet.

now please answer the above question, I am dying to hear you spin this

This post has been edited by Run and Gun Game Calls: Aug 9 2010, 03:34 PM

[Warlord]

I personally believe the people who follow the fights in boxing or mma, on boards like this are as well, if not more educated about the fighting sports than many of those who hold a job at a magazine writing about fighting.

You believe because a writer calls someone the GOAT it makes it so? They are more qualified than the majority of educated fight fans to make that decision? Their Decision to major in journalism classes somehow made them be able to better break down a fighter, than many here that have huge fight collections and have followed and researched fighters for years?



Look at this thread, how many are agreeing with you? I would put the opinions of almost every mma fan i talk to, and the members of this board over a magazine writer. Writing for a mag does not make you a MMA god or the final authority.


And to be honest I would rather be Fedor. Silvas comeback consisted of sonnen slipping up and giving up a submission. Silva got his ass handed to him. Something that has not ever happened to Fedor. If Silva had came back and knocked out sonnen i would have been much more impressed. Again the comeback was more of sonnens flaws than silvas great fighting ability.

but im not here just to defend fedor, BJ penn, Randy Couture are also ahead of silva based on competition and accomplishments. Did Couture move to heavyweight and win the title twice? yes he did Many times outweighed by at least 40 pds. Did Couture Dominate a kid who was considered the best 205er in the world in tito ortiz? yes he did

BJ penn did lose to Pulver early in his career, yet you claimed it was his prime, lol. Not even close. That was before BJ was even taking the sport seriously and training. But Ill tell ya what he did do. He moved up and beat a much bigger and stronger champion in Matt Huges.

Who has Silva beat that is on par with Matt Huges? Who has he beat on par with a prime Tito Ortiz? Who has he beat on par with Chuck Liddel for that matter? Who has he beat on par with Vitor Belfort?

Dont give me forrest griffen either or rich franklin, both are b level fighters. Their biggest wins came over fighters close to retirement

Im not talking ranked fighters either. All top level fighters fight ranked fighters. Who has he beat that is considered an A level great fighter?

Who has Silva beat that is considered a legend of the sport?....................

Nobody.

Silva is a fabrication of the UFC Hype machine.

You Still didnt answer my question, you completely ducked it in fact. So I ask again

Why are Dana White and Ed Sorros running as fast as they can from giving sonnen a much deserved rematch? Their Hyped house of cards almost came crumbling down.

Please give an honest answer.

Any true champion worth his salt would want to fight the rematch and prove the beat down he was taking was just a fabrication.

Could Roy Jones be considered the p4p king once he got the first fight decision v/s tarver? nope Even though he won the fight.

Even for those that thought Silva was the p4p #1 fighter right now before this fight. His last 2 preformances have destroyed that throne for him. Any credible list will have him slipping a few spots. Its not just one poor preformance now, its 2 in a row.

Goat, lmao..... He hasnt beaten anyone yet.

now please answer the above question, I am dying to hear you spin this

Amen. Pretty much sums up what I was going to post.

Bazooka, no one is saying Anderson Silva isn't a great fighter. He is. He just isn't the greatest. Not by a damn sight. He hasn't really fought anyone credible enough to be considered the GOAT. You're getting caught up in the drama of the moment, pure and simple.

My P4P list right now?

Georges St. Pierre
Anderson Silva
Fedor Emelianenko
Jose Aldo
Mauricio "Shogun" Rua

[kidbazooka1]

Amen. Pretty much sums up what I was going to post.

Bazooka, no one is saying Anderson Silva isn't a great fighter. He is. He just isn't the greatest. Not by a damn sight. He hasn't really fought anyone credible enough to be considered the GOAT. You're getting caught up in the drama of the moment, pure and simple.

My P4P list right now?

Georges St. Pierre
Anderson Silva
Fedor Emelianenko
Jose Aldo
Mauricio "Shogun" Rua

I can respect you haveing GSP at #1 thats fine it's your list i don't have him at #1 but it's all good. I would replace Shogun with Fedor though. Jose Aldo is fine at #4.

[Warlord]

I can respect you haveing GSP at #1 thats fine it's your list i don't have him at #1 but it's all good. I would replace Shogun with Fedor though. Jose Aldo is fine at #4.

Fedor switched with Shogun is fine, actually. Any of the bottom three of that list in any order is fine. GSP and Silva are the clear cut 1 and 2 now. No one that gets dominated like Anderson Silva just did (to Chael Sonnen no less) deserves to be called the P4P best fighter in the world though.

(I still think from an over-all standpoint that Fedor deserves to be ranked ahead of Silva as well. But a loss is a loss, and until he avenges it, it is what it is.)