Aug 14 2010, 12:55 PM
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Aug 15 2010, 09:09 PM
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Had this gone the 12, Pascal would have won anyway.
I guess the question is "Would Dawson have stopped him?" had the headbut not occured. Even though Pascal looked pretty much spent, alot of it may have had to do with his own layoff as well. Plus, Dawson just doesn't have the killer instinct to finish a hurt fighter under those circumstances. He's more concerned to avoid getting hit. Thats why he has no fanbase. His fights are on HBO because he has a belt and is recognized as the man at 175 but he's just not a great fighter. Doesnt have the heart or toughness. He's soft in there. Say what you want about Joe Calzaghe. But that guy was tough. If he got hurt or knocked down he always fought back. He didn't have KO power, but he always tried to put on a show and didnt care if he got a little reckless. He wanted to please the fans and give them their money's worth. I know its popular to hate Joe for a number of reasons but INSIDE THAT RING.... Joe was all fighter. Give him that much. Same cannot be said about Dawson whom is content at letting the likes of old man Tarver and old man Johnston last the distance with him. TWICE with both guys. At least Joe would have TRIED to get them out of there. Chad was cool with just jabbing and running his way to a boring points win. Running from two old men to avoid getting hit. Just a heartless fighter. Didn't even seem to care that he lost his title. Showed total disregard and indifference. I think thats why Larry Merchant got on him, |
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Aug 15 2010, 09:52 PM
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Cruiserweight Group: Team BU Posts: 5,543 Joined: 10-December 04 Member No.: 1,333 |
Had this gone the 12, Pascal would have won anyway. I guess the question is "Would Dawson have stopped him?" had the headbut not occured. Even though Pascal looked pretty much spent, alot of it may have had to do with his own layoff as well. Plus, Dawson just doesn't have the killer instinct to finish a hurt fighter under those circumstances. He's more concerned to avoid getting hit. Thats why he has no fanbase. His fights are on HBO because he has a belt and is recognized as the man at 175 but he's just not a great fighter. Doesnt have the heart or toughness. He's soft in there. Say what you want about Joe Calzaghe. But that guy was tough. If he got hurt or knocked down he always fought back. He didn't have KO power, but he always tried to put on a show and didnt care if he got a little reckless. He wanted to please the fans and give them their money's worth. I know its popular to hate Joe for a number of reasons but INSIDE THAT RING.... Joe was all fighter. Give him that much. Same cannot be said about Dawson whom is content at letting the likes of old man Tarver and old man Johnston last the distance with him. TWICE with both guys. At least Joe would have TRIED to get them out of there. Chad was cool with just jabbing and running his way to a boring points win. Running from two old men to avoid getting hit. Just a heartless fighter. Didn't even seem to care that he lost his title. Showed total disregard and indifference. I think thats why Larry Merchant got on him, Pascal's stamina has never been exceptional, which is why he fights in spurts. He cannot fight 3 minutes of every round. Case in point would be the Froch fight, in which he tired down the straight. The cause of his exhaustion was the same as last night's: Lunging wildly and eneding up out of balance when missing. Chad Dawson is a safety first fighter who likes his opponents to follow him so he can use his reach advantage and speed. Carl Froch is a tall guy who can spear you from the outisde but is not afraid to rumble. His tactic against Pascal was that of a man who knew that if he let his hands go, he was going to get hit, but he would also land more punches. That's what you have to do with Pascal; after he flurries, go after him, because he needs time to regain his strenght. Now the problem here is that Dawson also fights in spurts. The key was the jab and even last night he didn't throw it with convinction. |
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Jack 1000 HBO@10:30P (ET), 9:30P(CT), 7:30P (PT): Dawson vs. Pascal (SPOILERS 15 Minutes Later) Aug 14 2010, 12:55 PM
KOpower I got it at 58-56 for Pascal. Dawson needs to just... Aug 14 2010, 10:26 PM
The CEO I got it 5-4 Pascal after 9...
Not lookin' g... Aug 14 2010, 10:37 PM
caneman I t is getting close where Dawson needs a KO IMO... Aug 14 2010, 10:38 PM
The CEO and right when Dawson starts rockin' Pascal at... Aug 14 2010, 10:50 PM
Imperius3 Damn, I thought Dawson was going to stop Pascal fo... Aug 14 2010, 10:54 PM
Method THANK GOD that farce that has been "Bad... Aug 14 2010, 10:57 PM
Aware QUOTE (Method @ Aug 14 2010, 11:57 PM) TH... Aug 14 2010, 11:04 PM
Method QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 15 2010, 12:04 AM) You... Aug 14 2010, 11:34 PM
Aware QUOTE (Method @ Aug 15 2010, 12:34 AM) P4... Aug 14 2010, 11:42 PM
Method QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 15 2010, 12:42 AM) If ... Aug 14 2010, 11:44 PM
Aware QUOTE (Method @ Aug 15 2010, 12:44 AM) I ... Aug 14 2010, 11:49 PM
caneman Dawson did have him hurt for sure but by then I th... Aug 14 2010, 11:01 PM
E.C.LEGEND Most pure boxers have a good 1-2 where was Chad... Aug 14 2010, 11:03 PM
JonnyBlaze QUOTE (E.C.LEGEND @ Aug 14 2010, 11:03 PM... Aug 15 2010, 04:37 PM
E.C.LEGEND QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ Aug 15 2010, 04:37 PM... Aug 15 2010, 08:08 PM
JD Dawson is missing "it". Aug 14 2010, 11:09 PM
The CEO QUOTE (JD @ Aug 15 2010, 12:09 AM) Dawson... Aug 14 2010, 11:29 PM
The Ollie Reed Fan Club QUOTE (JD @ Aug 15 2010, 12:09 AM) Dawson... Aug 14 2010, 11:39 PM
caneman QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 15 2010, 12:04 AM) You... Aug 14 2010, 11:15 PM
Aware QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 15 2010, 12:15 AM) I... Aug 14 2010, 11:38 PM
Method QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 15 2010, 12:38 AM) In ... Aug 14 2010, 11:40 PM
caneman QUOTE (JD @ Aug 15 2010, 12:09 AM) Dawson... Aug 14 2010, 11:17 PM
caneman QUOTE (Method @ Aug 15 2010, 12:34 AM) P4... Aug 14 2010, 11:39 PM
JD Lipsey was removed from his senses completely...Pa... Aug 14 2010, 11:40 PM
Method Right, but both were stopped in their tracks. Had... Aug 14 2010, 11:43 PM
JD QUOTE (Method @ Aug 15 2010, 12:43 AM) Ri... Aug 14 2010, 11:45 PM
Method I wonder what Floyd Sr has to say. Hopefully Perc... Aug 14 2010, 11:47 PM
caneman He was exposed as a fighter that is unwilling to w... Aug 14 2010, 11:50 PM
Method Then he came in and tried to convince Larry (and e... Aug 14 2010, 11:55 PM
Aware QUOTE (Method @ Aug 15 2010, 12:55 AM) Th... Aug 15 2010, 12:00 AM
Method QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 15 2010, 01:00 AM) Do ... Aug 15 2010, 12:08 AM
Aware QUOTE (Method @ Aug 15 2010, 01:08 AM) Ag... Aug 15 2010, 12:17 AM
tymoney QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 15 2010, 01:17 AM) Wel... Aug 15 2010, 12:47 AM
Aware QUOTE (tymoney @ Aug 15 2010, 12:47 AM) B... Aug 15 2010, 01:04 AM
tymoney QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 15 2010, 02:04 AM) So ... Aug 15 2010, 04:50 AM
Method QUOTE (tymoney @ Aug 15 2010, 05:50 AM) D... Aug 15 2010, 07:06 AM
Aware QUOTE (Method @ Aug 15 2010, 07:06 AM) Yu... Aug 15 2010, 07:57 PM
Method QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 15 2010, 08:57 PM) Dud... Aug 15 2010, 08:08 PM
Aware QUOTE (Method @ Aug 15 2010, 08:08 PM) Ap... Aug 15 2010, 08:50 PM
Method QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 15 2010, 09:50 PM) I d... Aug 15 2010, 09:00 PM
tymoney Some fighters needs they ass handed to them so the... Aug 15 2010, 12:01 AM
Method QUOTE (tymoney @ Aug 15 2010, 01:01 AM) S... Aug 15 2010, 12:05 AM
Lil-lightsout Did not see the fight, but after watching a few of... Aug 15 2010, 01:00 AM
JD I don't think Dawson had an off night. He los... Aug 15 2010, 01:01 AM
salvador QUOTE (JD @ Aug 15 2010, 01:01 AM) I don... Aug 15 2010, 01:40 AM
ViperSniper Great fight! Pascal was the busier man all nig... Aug 15 2010, 01:02 AM
BigG Pascal clearly took it but I had it pretty close 6... Aug 15 2010, 02:15 AM
The Original MrFactor People dont seem to realize it, but thats the way ... Aug 15 2010, 02:15 AM
tymoney QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Aug 15 2010, 0... Aug 15 2010, 04:44 AM
caneman QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 15 2010, 02:04 AM) So ... Aug 15 2010, 07:22 AM
KookedKrack I was big on Dawson and still am but last night he... Aug 15 2010, 08:45 AM
caneman QUOTE (KookedKrack @ Aug 15 2010, 09:45 A... Aug 15 2010, 09:00 AM
JD Checkmate?
LOL...is the thought of someone hav... Aug 15 2010, 09:04 AM
caneman QUOTE (JD @ Aug 15 2010, 10:04 AM) Checkm... Aug 15 2010, 09:08 AM
JD QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 15 2010, 10:08 AM) W... Aug 15 2010, 09:13 AM
caneman Yea it was! It is easy to type LOL but I was l... Aug 15 2010, 09:18 AM
JLUVBABY I gotta check this fight out today... i dvr'd ... Aug 15 2010, 09:24 AM
caneman QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Aug 15 2010, 10:24 AM) ... Aug 15 2010, 09:28 AM
JLUVBABY QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 15 2010, 09:28 AM) I... Aug 15 2010, 09:43 AM
neophyte7 Chad DAWSON has an inflated since of how good he i... Aug 15 2010, 10:16 AM
Mean Mister Mustard One of the worst things out of all this is that Da... Aug 15 2010, 10:40 AM
Method No, Cane, you DONT have to watch it again because ... Aug 15 2010, 11:10 AM
caneman QUOTE (Method @ Aug 15 2010, 12:10 PM) No... Aug 15 2010, 11:22 AM
The CEO I still can't believe Dawson lost to a Light H... Aug 15 2010, 11:23 AM
SENTRAL QUOTE (The CEO @ Aug 15 2010, 12:23 PM) I... Aug 15 2010, 12:31 PM
PR316 Dawson just doesn't have the heart. The men... Aug 15 2010, 12:53 PM
caneman I am re-watching it now and I wonder what would ha... Aug 15 2010, 01:07 PM
Mean Mister Mustard We are all blaming Dawson for putting up such a sh... Aug 15 2010, 01:14 PM
neophyte7 JUST WATCHED again pascal was momentarily out on h... Aug 15 2010, 02:21 PM
Jack 1000 QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Aug 15 2010, 02:21 PM)... Aug 16 2010, 06:41 AM
thehype I've never seen a fighter give up his undefeat... Aug 15 2010, 03:20 PM
Method I expect "UNaware" to come barreling int... Aug 15 2010, 03:59 PM
JD I don't see the easy Dawson win in the rematch... Aug 15 2010, 08:23 PM
Jack 1000 I had it 7-4 for Pascal. Dawson was not busy enoug... Aug 16 2010, 12:52 AM
E.C.LEGEND QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Aug 16 2010, 12:52 AM)... Aug 16 2010, 12:15 PM
kidbazooka1 I was never sold on Dawson and im not suprised at ... Aug 16 2010, 01:55 AM
ROLL DEEP So, 'The Future of boxing' Chad Dawson los... Aug 16 2010, 09:44 AM
jlupi Anyone watching last night could see that dawson c... Aug 16 2010, 09:53 AM
Maxy Never got to see the fight. Been away.
Anyways, ... Aug 16 2010, 10:38 AM
The Original MrFactor Anybody else think that if Chad Dawson(instead of ... Aug 16 2010, 11:55 AM
HaydelHammer QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Aug 16 2010, 1... Aug 16 2010, 12:08 PM
Method Im not high on Bute either. Aug 16 2010, 12:26 PM
E.C.LEGEND QUOTE (Method @ Aug 16 2010, 12:26 PM) Im... Aug 16 2010, 12:32 PM
Method Exactly. Thought that was obvious. It's a pla... Aug 16 2010, 02:47 PM
caneman aware, it don't matter....can you not see @ th... Aug 16 2010, 02:50 PM
Aware QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 16 2010, 03:50 PM) a... Aug 16 2010, 03:29 PM
Method QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 16 2010, 04:29 PM) If ... Aug 16 2010, 03:55 PM
Aware QUOTE (Method @ Aug 16 2010, 04:55 PM) Fi... Aug 16 2010, 04:18 PM
Aware QUOTE (Method @ Aug 16 2010, 04:55 PM) Fi... Aug 16 2010, 04:18 PM
HaydelHammer AP Top News at 5:05 p.m. EDT
Having trouble accel... Aug 16 2010, 04:11 PM
The Ollie Reed Fan Club I can't believe through all of this thread nob... Aug 16 2010, 04:39 PM
caneman QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 16 2010, 05:18 PM) Hah... Aug 16 2010, 04:42 PM
Method Ignorance is bliss. It's your story, tell it ... Aug 16 2010, 05:08 PM![]() ![]() |
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