[The CEO]

Glad you didn't bother to "PM" the old man.

Sorry about that, Beardo....I just reread the thread and caught where you asked me...I was gettin' a lot of PMs and was all over the place...you happened to slip through the cracks...

[SmartyBeardo]

Last night was a complete joke. My only beef is that some MMA fans claimed that one of our best got his ass handed to him. NEWS FLASH!!! Toney is beyond shot. He struggled with Danny Batchelder.

James Toney = Tim Sylvia.

Yeah, I'm glad I didn't buy that sack of feces, but MMA has grown on me. That card on the Silva v The Oregonian Nightmare evening was one of the best overall nights of fighting I have ever seen. You just don't get cards like that in boxing, unfortunately.

I still prefer to watch two men boxing rather than looking like they are trying fuck each other in the ass.

[SmartyBeardo]

Sorry about that, Beardo....I just reread the thread and caught where you asked me...I was gettin' a lot of PMs and was all over the place...you happened to slip through the cracks...

No problem. I could smell the skunk clear up here in the Great Pacific Northwest. Seeing that shit would have made me uncomfortable anyway, since I resemble a lighter skinned version of the beached whale rolling around out there last night.

[Run and Gun Game...]

The thing that most stands out from last night is...My prediction was exactly right. Toney is the better boxer, by worlds, but Randy couture is the better fighter.

He beat james up before he submitted him. It wasnt like he took him down and choked him out only. He took james down. Got full Mount, landed some nice shots from there. Then got toney pinned against the cage in a sitting type of position, and pounded him upside the head. then applied the choke that left toney waving his hand in the air yelling i quit,

It was a complete domination.

I still love to watch an "in shape" Toney box. But he has no business in a MMA ring.


Toney = all time great boxer Couture = all time great fighter

[JLUVBABY]

I don't think the UFC ever billed it as "MMA vs. boxing." I think that was done by a bunch of gay-ass fans and media outlets. But I'm glad to see guys finally starting to realize the obvious, that these are two entirely different sports and should be treated as such. (That last statement was not directed at you personally.)

thats all they talked about last night during the lead up to and after the fight... mma vs boxing... but thats not what last night was... when you think about it it would be hard to actually make an mma vs boxing fight.. is half the ring square and the other half half of the octagon?... what would the rules consist of?... boxer fights by his rules and mma guy by his?... how about round minutes and how many rounds?... lol... my point is they are obviously 2 different sports... both deserving its individual respect... the same way toney got man handled last night coture would get dominated by toney in a boxing ring...

[SmartyBeardo]

thats all they talked about last night during the lead up to and after the fight... mma vs boxing... but thats not what last night was... when you think about it it would be hard to actually make an mma vs boxing fight.. is half the ring square and the other half half of the octagon?... what would the rules consist of?... boxer fights by his rules and mma guy by his?... how about round minutes and how many rounds?... lol... my point is they are obviously 2 different sports... both deserving its individual respect... the same way toney got man handled last night coture would get dominated by toney in a boxing ring...

True, but I still must admit that I thought JT would acquit himself better than he did. Couture really was impressive. He did exactly what he had to do not to end up unconscious.

Couture is a freak of nature on the level of BHop.

[HaydelHammer]

I'm sure somebody showed toney how to sprawl ...fat ass was lazy.

[Snoop]

I didn't really expect Toney to win, just to have a better showing than a beached whale.

[The Ollie Reed F...]

So I got around to finally making myself watch it. So that's a sport huh? I guess it is and different strokes for different folks and all that, but honestly it aint the most visually appealing thing to watch, 2 guys rolling around on the floor with each other.

I seriously hope Toney doesn't go back for seconds. What would be the point? It's only made me believe more that if boxing were to run itself as professionally as the UFC runs its cards it would shit all over MMA. I'm not trying to diminish Couture's win, good for him, and I know a lot of dudes on these boards like MMA, but honestly I think it blows.

All I guess we can surmize is that they really are 2 very very different sports and James should probably not bother to compete in either anymore.

And quickly to Lil LightsOut, dude I know how you feel, growing up James was my favourite fighter as well. Watching he and Tyson as a kid is what got me into the sport. Think of the good days and although he's underachieved James has still had more good nights than bad. He is a first ballot hall of famer and one of the best to lace them up, wear your sig with pride, it's an honour to be a fellow Toney fan with you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drinks.gif)

[Guest_Fitz_*]

So I got around to finally making myself watch it. So that's a sport huh? I guess it is and different strokes for different folks and all that, but honestly it aint the most visually appealing thing to watch, 2 guys rolling around on the floor with each other.

I have admitted that while I don't hate MMA, it just doesn't do it for me like boxing does and I just don't get the feeling and into it like I do with boxing, but I don't think it's fair to judge the sport on that. I don't find it entertaining when guys are rolling (though I respect it, and see what they are trying to do), though I don't think a fight like that gives a full picture of the sport. I seen some entertaining fights where they have strikes, kicks, elbows and just a good ground and pound.

I suppose it's like seeing a Hatton or Ruiz fight and then saying "so that's the sport huh? Different strokes for different folks". A Hatton or Ruiz fight isn't a good example to use to describe what boxing is about and what people love about the sport for entertainment value, they would probably use a Pacquiao-Marquez fight for that, just like I am sure they wouldn't use a style that we saw between Couture-Toney as an example of what people find great about the sport.