IPB  

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
> Boxers Mayweather has ducked, Boxers mayweather is scared to fight
MRstaze
post Sep 29 2010, 11:45 AM
Post #1


Amateur


Group: Members
Posts: 1
Joined: 29-September 10
From: London
Member No.: 11,027



Everyone says Mayweather is ducking great opponents. Who are they apart from Magarito and Cotto?
(Not that im a Mayweather fan.. just curious to know)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
 
Start new topic
Replies
Guest_Fitz_*
post Sep 29 2010, 07:21 PM
Post #2





Guests






QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 09:57 AM) *
Personally i dont think Floyd ducked any of them honestly. First, he called out Shane years ago but that steroid thing came up and i think that kinda tarnished that situation a lil bit


No it didn't. First off, apparently the first time he called Mosley out was in 1999 when they were 2 divisions apart and Mosley was fighting DLH, the next time was when Mosley fought Vargas 2 times in 2006 and then said he is taking the year off to spend with family and get his teeth fixed. Mayweather challenged him after Mosley said this (no different to Mayweather saying he isn't fighting any more in 2010 and why the Pacquiao fight isn't happening, apparently) and Mosley said, at the start of 2007 and Mayweather said no. The steroid thing doesn't fit in the time frame and didn't tarnish anything.

QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 09:57 AM) *
second i think that Cotto fight woulda happened if he wouldnt have loss to Margarito but he started gettin his ass whooped after that fight too so that was a done deal


Why do you think that? Mayweather was 'retired' at the time Cotto and Margarito were fighting, and he came back to fight the big dangerous Marquez in his come back fight. Though never stopped him fighting Judah after him losing, so who knows.

QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 09:57 AM) *
and third i dont think Margarito was big enough in the sport yet when they were talkin about Floyd fighting him so i think these are all situational issues not Floyd ducking anybody.


He was going to get $8 million (biggest pay day to date) for fighting Margarito.

QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 09:57 AM) *
People gotta realize that this isnt the 60's, 70's, and the 80's anymore Floyd is a business man first, then a boxer, if it doesnt make business sense first then Floyd aint gonna jump on it.


Oscar who was a bigger business man than Floyd will ever be managed to fight, and give most boxing fans good match ups, fought just about everybody. Seeing the fights DLH took and him being the bigger businessman by a mile never stopped him did it. Oscar the bigger star than Mayweather managed to find a right balance.

QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 09:57 AM) *
Like he said b4 belts dont do nothin but collect dust when its all over with so he's tryna make sure that he is set financially for the rest of his life and make sure his kids have it easy growing up.


Nothing like making sure you are set financially for the future of yourself and kids like spending money on jewellery, cars, houses and then having reports on how he owes the IRS and has spent most of his money.

This post has been edited by Fitz: Sep 29 2010, 07:23 PM
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
jvo1800
post Sep 29 2010, 07:49 PM
Post #3


Junior Flyweight


Group: Members
Posts: 125
Joined: 11-April 09
Member No.: 10,205



QUOTE (Fitz @ Sep 29 2010, 08:21 PM) *
No it didn't. First off, apparently the first time he called Mosley out was in 1999 when they were 2 divisions apart and Mosley was fighting DLH, the next time was when Mosley fought Vargas 2 times in 2006 and then said he is taking the year off to spend with family and get his teeth fixed. Mayweather challenged him after Mosley said this (no different to Mayweather saying he isn't fighting any more in 2010 and why the Pacquiao fight isn't happening, apparently) and Mosley said, at the start of 2007 and Mayweather said no. The steroid thing doesn't fit in the time frame and didn't tarnish anything.



Why do you think that? Mayweather was 'retired' at the time Cotto and Margarito were fighting, and he came back to fight the big dangerous Marquez in his come back fight. Though never stopped him fighting Judah after him losing, so who knows.



He was going to get $8 million (biggest pay day to date) for fighting Margarito.



Oscar who was a bigger business man than Floyd will ever be managed to fight, and give most boxing fans good match ups, fought just about everybody. Seeing the fights DLH took and him being the bigger businessman by a mile never stopped him did it. Oscar the bigger star than Mayweather managed to find a right balance.



Nothing like making sure you are set financially for the future of yourself and kids like spending money on jewellery, cars, houses and then having reports on how he owes the IRS and has spent most of his money.

Ok we can eliminate Shane cause he just got done whooping his ass and i dont wanna hear nothin about Shane was old cause he just beat Margarito and everybody thought that was the greatest thing in boxing. Regardless if he was retired or not that Cotto fight woulda happened if he wouldnt start gettin his ass whooped after Margarito beat him, so that wouldnt have made any sense to fight Cotto. Yea the Margarito fight was there but that wasnt on Floyd's radar at the time because Margarito really hadnt done shit to that point to get the attention of Floyd, plus Floyd was already makin $10 mil plus at that time so he woulda been going backwards. Lastly Oscar didnt have to promote himself or sell his image like Floyd did he has always been a mega star in the sport without having to do much of nothing and he was mexican/american so he had double the fan base. Oscar was gettin a big payday no matter who he fought and when he did fight the elite he got his his ass whooped (Bernard, Floyd, Shane twice, etc.) Yea Floyd buys jewelry, cars,etc. but earns it and can afford to do so and make sure his kids are good.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
STEVENSKI
post Sep 30 2010, 06:20 PM
Post #4


Chief Haterizer


Group: Team BU
Posts: 10,592
Joined: 30-May 04
From: Sydney
Member No.: 91



QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 10:49 AM) *
Lastly Oscar didnt have to promote himself or sell his image like Floyd did he has always been a mega star in the sport without having to do much of nothing


Yeah except win a Olympic Gold medal which is something Floyd FAILED to do. See when you win a gold medal in boxing & are American & the only one to do so that Olympics that instantly makes you marketable to the American boxing public. Combine that with "good looks" & a humble attitude & you are onto a winner.

QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 10:49 AM) *
Oscar was gettin a big payday no matter who he fought


Because he was a Olympic Gold medallist & by the time he was getting the really big paydays he had proven to be a active fighter who fought the best competition available.

QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 10:49 AM) *
when he did fight the elite he got his his ass whooped (Bernard, Floyd, Shane twice, etc.)


Yes but he did fight the elite & that is the major difference between the two.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
sweetscientist1
post Sep 30 2010, 08:06 PM
Post #5


SoCali Cum Guzzler


Group: Banned
Posts: 170
Joined: 23-September 09
Member No.: 10,549



QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Sep 30 2010, 06:20 PM) *
Yeah except win a Olympic Gold medal which is something Floyd FAILED to do. See when you win a gold medal in boxing & are American & the only one to do so that Olympics that instantly makes you marketable to the American boxing public. Combine that with "good looks" & a humble attitude & you are onto a winner.



Because he was a Olympic Gold medallist & by the time he was getting the really big paydays he had proven to be a active fighter who fought the best competition available.



Yes but he did fight the elite & that is the major difference between the two.

Short memory you have my man if you watched the olympics. Floyd didn't fail to win the Gold Medal, The Gold medal failed to be given to the right party. Or are you gonna tell me that decision was justified? Roy Jones in 88 too huh?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
STEVENSKI
post Sep 30 2010, 08:34 PM
Post #6


Chief Haterizer


Group: Team BU
Posts: 10,592
Joined: 30-May 04
From: Sydney
Member No.: 91



QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Oct 1 2010, 11:06 AM) *
Short memory you have my man if you watched the Olympics. Floyd didn't fail to win the Gold Medal, The Gold medal failed to be given to the right party. Or are you gonna tell me that decision was justified? Roy Jones in 88 too huh?


No I am saying the he failed to win the gold medal which is clearly documented. Roy Jones also failed to win the gold medal in 88. So how did he not fail? I am confused as if he did not fail then he would have the gold medal.

As per Merriam-Webster dictionary (I have only included the information pertinent to the subject of failing)

Definition of FAIL

intransitive verb

2a : to fall short <failed in his duty> b : to be or become absent or inadequate <the water supply failed> c : to be unsuccessful <the marriage failed>; specifically : to be unsuccessful in achieving a passing grade <took the exam and failed>


In short you like Floyd fail. Unlike Floyd you have displayed failure multiple times in this thread alone. You win the fail of the day prize so have a cookie & congratulate yourself on a job well done.

QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Oct 1 2010, 11:02 AM) *
I didn't know Floyd made matchups. i thought that's what Heymon and Ellerbe wer for or Arum back in the day. But no Floyd's a matchmaker?


They are employed by Floyd & therefore representatives of Floyd directly. Floyd is the one who has failed (my word of the day) to ensure that quality matchups were made by his refusal to participate or his proxy Ellerbe acting on his behalf. Under Arum Floyd actually had many quality fights so it is once he "did it for himself" that his quality of opponent plummeted.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
- MRstaze   Boxers Mayweather has ducked   Sep 29 2010, 11:45 AM
- - Snoop   QUOTE (MRstaze @ Sep 29 2010, 05:45 PM) E...   Sep 29 2010, 01:14 PM
- - Big Slim Sweet   Mayweather ducked Mosley for years & Margarito...   Sep 29 2010, 02:30 PM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (Big Slim Sweet @ Sep 29 2010, 03:3...   Sep 29 2010, 03:31 PM
|- - ROLL DEEP   QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Sep 29 2010, 04...   Sep 29 2010, 04:15 PM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (ROLL DEEP @ Sep 29 2010, 05:15 PM)...   Sep 30 2010, 11:53 AM
|- - Fitz   QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Oct 1 2010, 02:5...   Sep 30 2010, 05:09 PM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (Fitz @ Sep 30 2010, 05:09 PM) LOL....   Sep 30 2010, 07:05 PM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Sep 30 2010, 07...   Sep 30 2010, 07:09 PM
|- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Oct 1 2010, 10:0...   Sep 30 2010, 07:26 PM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Sep 30 2010, 07:26 PM)...   Sep 30 2010, 08:02 PM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Sep 30 2010, 08...   Sep 30 2010, 08:08 PM
- - Lil-lightsout   Pac. Winky Wright... after he called him out.   Sep 29 2010, 02:37 PM
- - ROLL DEEP   Whether he ducked them, they refused to fight him,...   Sep 29 2010, 03:23 PM
- - JLUVBABY   i wouldnt say floyd ducked fights as much as i wou...   Sep 29 2010, 05:11 PM
- - gravytrain   I disagree with saying he ducked Margarito and Cot...   Sep 29 2010, 05:45 PM
|- - JLUVBABY   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Sep 29 2010, 05:45 PM...   Sep 29 2010, 05:51 PM
- - jvo1800   Personally i dont think Floyd ducked any of them h...   Sep 29 2010, 06:57 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 29 2010, 07:57 PM) P...   Sep 29 2010, 07:49 PM
|- - Snoop   QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 29 2010, 11:57 PM) P...   Sep 29 2010, 11:32 PM
|- - jvo1800   QUOTE (Snoop @ Sep 30 2010, 12:32 AM) The...   Sep 29 2010, 11:55 PM
|- - Snoop   QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 05:55 AM) I...   Sep 30 2010, 12:03 AM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 12:55 AM) I...   Sep 30 2010, 12:49 AM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Sep 30 2010, 01:49 AM...   Sep 30 2010, 01:34 AM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (thehype @ Sep 30 2010, 02:34 AM) ...   Sep 30 2010, 02:54 AM
- - Fitz   QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 09:57 AM) P...   Sep 29 2010, 07:21 PM
|- - jvo1800   QUOTE (Fitz @ Sep 29 2010, 08:21 PM) No i...   Sep 29 2010, 07:49 PM
||- - Run and Gun Game Calls   QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 29 2010, 10:49 PM) Y...   Sep 30 2010, 02:03 AM
|||- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ Sep 30 2010, ...   Sep 30 2010, 06:29 PM
|||- - leonthegay   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ Sep 30 2010, ...   Oct 1 2010, 11:59 AM
|||- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE (leonthegay @ Oct 2 2010, 02:59 AM)...   Oct 1 2010, 10:32 PM
|||- - gravytrain   QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Oct 1 2010, 11:32 PM) ...   Oct 1 2010, 11:38 PM
|||- - JLUVBABY   QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Oct 1 2010, 10:32 PM) ...   Oct 2 2010, 06:31 PM
||- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 10:49 AM) L...   Sep 30 2010, 06:20 PM
||- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Sep 30 2010, 06:20 PM)...   Sep 30 2010, 08:06 PM
||- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Oct 1 2010, 11:0...   Sep 30 2010, 08:34 PM
||- - gravytrain   QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Sep 30 2010, 09...   Sep 30 2010, 08:35 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (Fitz @ Sep 29 2010, 08:21 PM) Osca...   Sep 30 2010, 01:40 AM
- - Lil-lightsout   I love PBF fans.   Sep 29 2010, 08:10 PM
- - Fitz   QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 10:49 AM) O...   Sep 29 2010, 08:18 PM
|- - jvo1800   QUOTE (Fitz @ Sep 29 2010, 09:18 PM) Nope...   Sep 29 2010, 09:22 PM
- - Fitz   QUOTE (jvo1800 @ Sep 30 2010, 12:22 PM) 8...   Sep 29 2010, 09:40 PM
|- - Warlord   QUOTE (Fitz @ Sep 29 2010, 10:40 PM) Apri...   Sep 29 2010, 11:13 PM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (Fitz @ Sep 29 2010, 10:40 PM) Apri...   Sep 30 2010, 01:33 PM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (Fitz @ Sep 29 2010, 10:40 PM) Apri...   Sep 30 2010, 01:33 PM
- - King Eugene   I've been here long enough to know that no mat...   Sep 29 2010, 11:23 PM
- - Snoop   Honestly, I think most of Floyd's recent caree...   Sep 29 2010, 11:37 PM
|- - AussieLad   QUOTE (Snoop @ Sep 30 2010, 04:37 AM) Hon...   Oct 2 2010, 06:35 PM
- - Run and Gun Game Calls   Floyd isnt held to the same standard as other curr...   Sep 30 2010, 01:52 AM
- - Fitz   QUOTE (King Eugene @ Sep 30 2010, 02:23 P...   Sep 30 2010, 05:13 AM
- - ViperSniper   Williams-Margarito Margarito-Cintron Cotto-Quintan...   Sep 30 2010, 05:38 AM
- - Fitz   QUOTE (ViperSniper @ Sep 30 2010, 08:38 P...   Sep 30 2010, 06:15 AM
- - Run and Gun Game Calls   Actually alot of people feel JLC beat Floyd in the...   Sep 30 2010, 12:31 PM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ Sep 30 2010, ...   Sep 30 2010, 01:06 PM
- - Fitz   QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Oct 1 2010, 09:20 AM) ...   Sep 30 2010, 06:55 PM
- - Lil-lightsout   I swear Floyd huggers are so damn delusional. They...   Sep 30 2010, 07:38 PM
- - JD   I don't know of any fighter that was accused o...   Sep 30 2010, 08:28 PM
- - JD   Floyd lost in the Silver medal round, the guy who ...   Sep 30 2010, 08:39 PM
|- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE (JD @ Oct 1 2010, 11:39 AM) Floyd l...   Sep 30 2010, 08:41 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (JD @ Sep 30 2010, 09:39 PM) Floyd ...   Sep 30 2010, 08:55 PM
|- - JD   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Sep 30 2010, 09:55 PM...   Sep 30 2010, 08:58 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (JD @ Sep 30 2010, 09:58 PM) I agre...   Sep 30 2010, 09:38 PM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Sep 30 2010, 09:38 PM...   Oct 1 2010, 10:15 AM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Oct 1 2010, 11:1...   Oct 1 2010, 03:04 PM
|- - lloyd mayflower   QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Oct 1 2010, 04:1...   Oct 1 2010, 03:27 PM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Oct 1 2010, 03:2...   Oct 1 2010, 04:17 PM
|- - The Ollie Reed Fan Club   QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Oct 1 2010, 05:1...   Oct 1 2010, 06:16 PM
|- - Run and Gun Game Calls   QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Oct 1 2010, 08:1...   Oct 2 2010, 12:20 PM
|- - lloyd mayflower   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ Oct 2 2010, 0...   Oct 2 2010, 02:18 PM
- - JD   Neither of my posts in this thread really had a po...   Sep 30 2010, 08:47 PM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (JD @ Sep 30 2010, 08:47 PM) Neithe...   Oct 1 2010, 10:27 AM
- - Fitz   This thread is hilarious. Demarcus Corley was a hi...   Sep 30 2010, 09:16 PM
- - neophyte7   Honestly on several sites there more than a few pe...   Sep 30 2010, 09:41 PM
|- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Oct 1 2010, 12:41 PM) ...   Sep 30 2010, 10:05 PM
- - JD   OK...Corley is beast that fighters fear and top fi...   Oct 1 2010, 10:55 AM
|- - sweetscientist1   QUOTE (JD @ Oct 1 2010, 10:55 AM) OK...Co...   Oct 1 2010, 11:26 AM
- - JD   QUOTE (sweetscientist1 @ Oct 1 2010, 12:2...   Oct 1 2010, 11:34 AM
- - lloyd mayflower   The "Marz" virus rears its ugly head aga...   Oct 1 2010, 11:41 AM
- - lloyd mayflower   So in answer to my questions........   Oct 1 2010, 04:20 PM
- - neophyte7   These forums always revert to oral sex inuendo.. s...   Oct 2 2010, 02:50 PM
|- - lloyd mayflower   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Oct 2 2010, 08:50 PM) ...   Oct 2 2010, 03:17 PM
- - Fitz   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Oct 3 2010, 06:50 AM) ...   Oct 2 2010, 06:06 PM
|- - AussieLad   QUOTE (Fitz @ Oct 3 2010, 12:06 AM) Post ...   Oct 2 2010, 07:30 PM
|- - stateofthegame   QUOTE (AussieLad @ Oct 3 2010, 05:30 AM) ...   Oct 2 2010, 08:14 PM
- - Mean Mister Mustard   This sweetscientist guy fits all the usual pattern...   Oct 2 2010, 06:49 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (Mean Mister Mustard @ Oct 2 2010, 07...   Oct 2 2010, 07:09 PM
- - Fitz   QUOTE (Mean Mister Mustard @ Oct 3 2010, 10...   Oct 2 2010, 07:00 PM
- - D-MARV   The only fighter Mayweather appears to have ducked...   Oct 3 2010, 09:21 AM
|- - JLUVBABY   QUOTE (D-MARV @ Oct 3 2010, 09:21 AM...   Oct 3 2010, 09:36 AM
- - lloyd mayflower   Oh JLUV, so pedantic!!! How does, ...   Oct 3 2010, 09:54 AM
|- - JLUVBABY   QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Oct 3 2010, 09:5...   Oct 3 2010, 11:42 AM
- - gravytrain   It's hard to say Mayweather ducked TR fighters...   Oct 3 2010, 10:39 AM
- - lloyd mayflower   Yeah I think your right JLUV, IF his life hasnt de...   Oct 3 2010, 12:18 PM
|- - JLUVBABY   QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Oct 3 2010, 12:1...   Oct 3 2010, 12:32 PM
- - gravytrain   Every athlete cares about their legacy to some deg...   Oct 3 2010, 12:36 PM
2 Pages V   1 2 >


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 17th April 2014 - 08:06 PM