[BigG]

Where do you think these guys rate P4P? I've seen different posters rate Wlad in the top 10 and personally I've never thought they deserved to be P4P because theres just too much talent in the lower weights, and better P4P fighters than the Klitschko's. But Wlad has been champ for a long time and has beaten all contenders except Vitali, Amaek and Haye. And he has been dominant..he hasn't lost a round since the first Peter fight. I'm not the biggest fan of the brothers but they are very impressive in this weak era and I believe they would beat alot of great Heavyweights....(not Holmes, Ali, and Tyson). Where do you rank them?

[ROLL DEEP]

If their height converted well, meaning that they were still head and shoulders above the others, then yeah, you gotta rank them highly.


They use their reach and height so well.



Although not the most exciting fighters to some, they are pretty much the complete package for a fighter. They're tall, decent power, awkward, pretty quick, athletic, put together punches well, Vitali has a decent chin, so it's hard to argue otherwise.



Regardless of what the divison is like now, pretty much any heavyweight ever would struggle because of the above assets they have.

[D-MARV]

Anyone who doesn't consider the Klitschkos as pound for pound players is an idiot.

[Big Slim Sweet]

Which one ranks higher?

If you combined them into one guy, then yeah, you'd have to have them up there right now. BUT - the fact remains they won't fight each other for division dominance. Take out the fact that they're brothers for a second. That's an inexcusable offense, isn't it?

I'm not saying they should fight or that they need to fight or that I even necessarily want them to fight. I get why they won't. But refusing to do so kind of takes away a bit from each one's individual legacy, IMO.

[JLUVBABY]

Anyone who doesn't consider the Klitschkos as pound for pound players is an idiot.

i dont ness. agree with this statement D... reason is because in my opinion if you compare the quality of fighters they have to face currently, which isnt their fault i understand that, they should be cleaning these guys clocks.... EARLY... Mike Tyson said of Toney Tubbs after their fight during his interview which to me sums up what these guys should be doing to their comp.... Mike said, and i quote almost verbatim... "I did to this guy what I was supposed to do with a guy of his caliber and his shape".... With that said the Klits. are fighting guys that are afraid of them mostly.. and the ones that arent have no hope anyway... they should be getting their opponents out of there sooner.... in my opinion... P4P put them in with a mayweather or a hopkins or a ward and these guys are getting busted up and im sure i could name another 7 or 8 maybe more guys that beat them P4P... If they where getting these no hopers out of there like their size and punching power they both possess dictates they should then I would have no problem ranking both of them in the top 10... from what i've seen of these two guys they would be contenders only in the early to mid 90's through the end of lewis's prime... they are good, but not that good... and like i said in another post with there being two of them they are fighting the contenders that best compliment their styles... like i said wlad fought thompson... thompson would have given vitali a much stiffer test... vitali fought arreola... arreola fat and all with his style would have had a better chance vs wlad... im not knocking them id do the same just saying... with that said i have no problem with someone ranking them in theier top 10 but to call someone idiots for not.... naw man thats a stretch cuzz i can see the logic in why they wouldnt....

[STEVENSKI]

They are both legit bad men. They don't lay people out like Lewis did but they are somehow worse with the methodical & merciless way they beat their opponents. They literally beat them to pulp & that is far scarier than getting bashed for a couple of rounds & getting laid out cold.

[gravytrain]

i dont ness. agree with this statement D... reason is because in my opinion if you compare the quality of fighters they have to face currently, which isnt their fault i understand that, they should be cleaning these guys clocks.... EARLY... Mike Tyson said of Toney Tubbs after their fight during his interview which to me sums up what these guys should be doing to their comp.... Mike said, and i quote almost verbatim... "I did to this guy what I was supposed to do with a guy of his caliber and his shape".... With that said the Klits. are fighting guys that are afraid of them mostly.. and the ones that arent have no hope anyway... they should be getting their opponents out of there sooner.... in my opinion... P4P put them in with a mayweather or a hopkins or a ward and these guys are getting busted up and im sure i could name another 7 or 8 maybe more guys that beat them P4P... If they where getting these no hopers out of there like their size and punching power they both possess dictates they should then I would have no problem ranking both of them in the top 10... from what i've seen of these two guys they would be contenders only in the early to mid 90's through the end of lewis's prime... they are good, but not that good... and like i said in another post with there being two of them they are fighting the contenders that best compliment their styles... like i said wlad fought thompson... thompson would have given vitali a much stiffer test... vitali fought arreola... arreola fat and all with his style would have had a better chance vs wlad... im not knocking them id do the same just saying... with that said i have no problem with someone ranking them in theier top 10 but to call someone idiots for not.... naw man thats a stretch cuzz i can see the logic in why they wouldnt....

That's my only beef with them. I think of them kind of like Joe Louis. Joe Louis fought in a weak era and often overmatched his opponents[bum of the month club]. If Joe Louis jabbed cats for 12 rounds he wouldn't have the same reputation.

I just really hate to see two guys who are really superior in every way to their opponents letting the guy off the hook. I'm sure someone will say that Wlad just wants to bust guys up with the jab first then get the kayo but that's not the case, every fight I've watched of his Steward is always yelling at him to finish the fight. If Steward wasn't in his corner yelling at him do you think he'd go for that kayo or stoppage?

[JLUVBABY]

They are both legit bad men. They don't lay people out like Lewis did but they are somehow worse with the methodical & merciless way they beat their opponents. They literally beat them to pulp & that is far scarier than getting bashed for a couple of rounds & getting laid out cold.

they are both just as capable of laying guys out like lewis did and the fact is they are fighting more inferior fighters than lewis fought and still not closing the show... or if they do it takes 10 rounds most of the time, of constant clubbing away at their opponent... the greats ended the show and didnt let inferior opponents lay around.... they got them out of there...

[The Original MrF...]

they are both just as capable of laying guys out like lewis did and the fact is they are fighting more inferior fighters than lewis fought and still not closing the show... or if they do it takes 10 rounds most of the time, of constant clubbing away at their opponent... the greats ended the show and didnt let inferior opponents lay around.... they got them out of there...

Thats holding the Klits to a different standard than their contemporaries. Mayweather doesn't KO dudes like Tyson either. Dudes that he should be stopping, he doesnt. JMM and Baldomir come to mind. Hopkins was in the top 10 as well and wasn't exactly known for stopping guys like Tyson did. The Klits are methodical plodders, but they are very good at what they do. Unless one of them absolutely slips off his game, I dont see them losing for the next few years. Both guys may retire as Champ. That would say alot. They have dominated their era's competition. As Champs, both have rarely lost a round. They are great. Their only crime to the American boxing public is that they are not from a ranch in Montana.

[pesticid]

they are both just as capable of laying guys out like lewis did and the fact is they are fighting more inferior fighters than lewis fought and still not closing the show... or if they do it takes 10 rounds most of the time, of constant clubbing away at their opponent... the greats ended the show and didnt let inferior opponents lay around.... they got them out of there...

I'd disagree here, Lennox has had many more dull decision victories than Vitaly. He may have fought in a slightly better era but he also got knocked out cold by C-level fighters. Knockout isn't everything even though Vitaly has the highers %. What's astonishing is that he is winning every second of every fight of his and even in losing his two fights he was winning prior to the injuries. You think of great heavyweights that have lost, they have been knocked out or brutally beaten and not always by top fighters, now the case with Vitaly and yeah I know about the Byrd fight and lennox caching him in the eye with the side of the glove. Fact is Vitaly wasn't lucky to get a rematch with either Byrd and Lennox to prove his mettle, while Lewis did.