[Guest_Fitz_*]

For a while, there were talks about a fight with Chavez, then haven't heard much. I did a search to see if any news came up, and I found this. Apparently talks were for Cotto-Berto, but Arum said the fight was difficult to make. DiBella said it wasn't.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=32212

Anybody else heard anything about Cotto? I am guessing they probably aren't saying anything until Margarito-Pacquiao is done?

[King Eugene]

For a while, there were talks about a fight with Chavez, then haven't heard much. I did a search to see if any news came up, and I found this. Apparently talks were for Cotto-Berto, but Arum said the fight was difficult to make. DiBella said it wasn't.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=32212

Anybody else heard anything about Cotto? I am guessing they probably aren't saying anything until Margarito-Pacquiao is done?

Haven't heard much but I wouldn't be surprised if he was first in line with a rematch of the winner of the Nov. 13th fight.

[mexi-cutioner]

Cotto vs Chavez Jr. early-mid 2011 and winner of Pac/Marg fights Berto next year????

imo, a unification bout between Pac and Berto is the only other fight at welter (other than floyd) that makes any sense and helllssssss naw is Roach or Arum putting their moneybag in the ring with PWill

[The Ollie Reed F...]

Cotto vs Chavez Jr. early-mid 2011 and winner of Pac/Marg fights Berto next year????

imo, a unification bout between Pac and Berto is the only other fight at welter (other than floyd) that makes any sense and helllssssss naw is Roach or Arum putting their moneybag in the ring with PWill

And neither will Al Haymon put his money bag in with P-Will.

[Snoop]

Top Rank has put him on the shelf as punishment ever since he fucked up their plans with the Foreman fight.

[salvador]

Haven't heard much but I wouldn't be surprised if he was first in line with a rematch of the winner of the Nov. 13th fight.

I'd be shocked if he fought Pac again - particularly if Pac wins.

Cotto-Marg 2 (assuming Marg gets destroyed) would be an obvious choice because fans (and Cotto) would assume Marg used the wraps in the first fight and that Cotto would be coming for righteous revenge.

That said, Cotto-Angulo would be a big money maker for Cotto in a very winnable fight.

And Snoop, Foreman was never going to be a star and Top Rank knew it because he's not exciting and never will be. He was perfect for Cotto because he was light hitting and had a Jewish fan base in NYC that they could sell for a Yankee Stadium type of event.

Cotto is still a major draw and Arum will feed him medium-sized snacks as long as Cotto remains popular with the crowds and HBO.

When Cotto-Floyd is announced at 154, then you will know that Arum is finally cashing out on him. Not one minute sooner.

[Snoop]

I'd be shocked if he fought Pac again - particularly if Pac wins.

Cotto-Marg 2 (assuming Marg gets destroyed) would be an obvious choice because fans (and Cotto) would assume Marg used the wraps in the first fight and that Cotto would be coming for righteous revenge.

That said, Cotto-Angulo would be a big money maker for Cotto in a very winnable fight.

And Snoop, Foreman was never going to be a star and Top Rank knew it because he's not exciting and never will be. He was perfect for Cotto because he was light hitting and had a Jewish fan base in NYC that they could sell for a Yankee Stadium type of event.

Cotto is still a major draw and Arum will feed him medium-sized snacks as long as Cotto remains popular with the crowds and HBO.

When Cotto-Floyd is announced at 154, then you will know that Arum is finally cashing out on him. Not one minute sooner.

I don't think they were planning to make a star out of Foreman, but he would have been an easier target with a belt for the stars of Top Rank.

Top Rank has been cashing out on Cotto for a while. That's probably why he doesn't have a fight right now.

[TheFonz]

I'd be shocked if he fought Pac again - particularly if Pac wins.

Cotto-Marg 2 (assuming Marg gets destroyed) would be an obvious choice because fans (and Cotto) would assume Marg used the wraps in the first fight and that Cotto would be coming for righteous revenge.

That said, Cotto-Angulo would be a big money maker for Cotto in a very winnable fight.

And Snoop, Foreman was never going to be a star and Top Rank knew it because he's not exciting and never will be. He was perfect for Cotto because he was light hitting and had a Jewish fan base in NYC that they could sell for a Yankee Stadium type of event.

Cotto is still a major draw and Arum will feed him medium-sized snacks as long as Cotto remains popular with the crowds and HBO.

When Cotto-Floyd is announced at 154, then you will know that Arum is finally cashing out on him. Not one minute sooner.

I have pretty much given up on that fight ever happening.

[salvador]

I don't think they were planning to make a star out of Foreman, but he would have been an easier target with a belt for the stars of Top Rank.

Could any of those other stars other than Pac have filled Yankee stadium?

Pac-Foreman would have been a major disappointment to all Pac fans.

I think Cotto-Foreman was a perfect money maker for Arum. It gave Foreman a high profile/big money fight that he couldn't have gotten anywhere else and set him up for a Chavez Jr. fight (meaning that Chavez Jr. is being fed an easy/semi-credible target). And it gave Cotto an easy win for big money - thus keeping Cotto happy and giving him a much needed confidence boost.

[salvador]

I have pretty much given up on that fight ever happening.

It won't. Nobody in Cotto's camp is that stupid. The only way it might happen is if Cotto is broke. If it does happen it will be a very sad day for boxing.