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Dec 10 2010, 10:20 AM
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Super Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 3,082 Joined: 10-December 04 From: Cali Member No.: 1,319 |
Pacquio was iced twice early in his career. Wlad is a much different fighter than he was then Yes but Manny bounced back to beat all time greats like MAB, Morales, Marquez, and very good fighters in Cotto and Hatton. Wlad has beaten no one that comes remotley close to that level. I know it's not his fault but it's just the way sh*t is the division is horrible and the comp is a joke. |
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Dec 10 2010, 11:08 AM
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Lightweight Group: Members Posts: 840 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Maryland Member No.: 6,594 |
Yes but Manny bounced back to beat all time greats like MAB, Morales, Marquez, and very good fighters in Cotto and Hatton. Wlad has beaten no one that comes remotley close to that level. I know it's not his fault but it's just the way sh*t is the division is horrible and the comp is a joke. So what happens when he beats Haye in similar fashion? |
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Dec 10 2010, 11:11 AM
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0 Group: Team BU Posts: 0 Joined: 8-December 04 Member No.: 1,253 |
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Dec 10 2010, 12:27 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,936 Joined: 21-July 03 Member No.: 195 |
Haye just sells himself well. He is nothing special
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Dec 10 2010, 01:54 PM
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ON the edge Group: Members Posts: 9,331 Joined: 28-February 03 From: Poughkeepsie, NY Member No.: 240 |
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Dec 10 2010, 03:14 PM
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0 Group: Team BU Posts: 0 Joined: 8-December 04 Member No.: 1,253 |
But it sounds American so it should. I have no problem that Wlad is whipping the dogshit out of the heavyweight division, but the heavyweight division is SO DEVOID OF TALENT. Right, we all know that. So, while THAT is NOT Wladdy's fault, it doesn't earn him a spot on my p4p list. Not now, Not EVER. Free and clear of challenges, I fall back on my primary criterion - SKILLS. For me, Wlad just does not possess them on a P4P level. That he can get in the ring w Chagaev (or whoever that was) and play patty cake for 12 rounds is a disgrace to the sport, and I will NEVER EVER disrespect the p4p list, mythical though it may be, with a big fat pussy like that. |
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Dec 10 2010, 04:04 PM
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Amateur Group: Team BU Posts: 0 Joined: 9-December 04 From: Atlanta,GA Member No.: 1,310 |
I have no problem that Wlad is whipping the dogshit out of the heavyweight division, but the heavyweight division is SO DEVOID OF TALENT. Right, we all know that. So, while THAT is NOT Wladdy's fault, it doesn't earn him a spot on my p4p list. Not now, Not EVER. Free and clear of challenges, I fall back on my primary criterion - SKILLS. For me, Wlad just does not possess them on a P4P level. That he can get in the ring w Chagaev (or whoever that was) and play patty cake for 12 rounds is a disgrace to the sport, and I will NEVER EVER disrespect the p4p list, mythical though it may be, with a big fat pussy like that. There was a time that the HW champ was considered the best fighter on the planet & never made these kinda list! My how the mighty have fallen huh? I was thinking there might should be a HW & a super HW but it is such a waste land that IDK if it would matter much! |
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Dec 11 2010, 01:00 AM
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Middleweight Group: Team BU Posts: 2,558 Joined: 15-November 09 From: The northleft edge of the continental USA Member No.: 10,633 |
Wlad belongs in the top ten.
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